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position:0% not to fall that's that simple 00:54:10.559 --> 00:54:12.950 align:start position:0% not to fall that's that simple that's<00:54:10.800> the<00:54:10.960> kind<00:54:11.119> of<00:54:11.280> things<00:54:11.520> that<00:54:12.640> people 00:54:12.950 --> 00:54:12.960 align:start position:0% that's the kind of things that people 00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:13.750 align:start position:0% that's the kind of things that people have 00:54:13.750 --> 00:54:13.760 align:start position:0% have 00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:16.950 align:start position:0% have very<00:54:14.079> wrong<00:54:14.720> impressions<00:54:15.280> about 00:54:16.950 --> 00:54:16.960 align:start position:0% very wrong impressions about 00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:19.670 align:start position:0% very wrong impressions about and<00:54:17.680> i<00:54:17.920> hope<00:54:18.240> the<00:54:18.400> press<00:54:18.800> sooner<00:54:19.040> or<00:54:19.200> later<00:54:19.520> is 00:54:19.670 --> 00:54:19.680 align:start position:0% and i hope the press sooner or later is 00:54:19.680 --> 00:54:20.950 align:start position:0% and i hope the press sooner or later is going<00:54:19.920> to 00:54:20.950 --> 00:54:20.960 align:start position:0% going to 00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:23.510 align:start position:0% going to change<00:54:21.280> their<00:54:21.920> attitude<00:54:22.559> and<00:54:23.040> help<00:54:23.280> us 00:54:23.510 --> 00:54:23.520 align:start position:0% change their attitude and help us 00:54:23.520 --> 00:54:24.790 align:start position:0% change their attitude and help us instead<00:54:23.920> of 00:54:24.790 --> 00:54:24.800 align:start position:0% instead of 00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:28.870 align:start position:0% instead of making<00:54:25.200> our<00:54:25.440> job<00:54:25.680> more<00:54:25.920> difficult<00:54:27.680> okay 00:54:28.870 --> 00:54:28.880 align:start position:0% making our job more difficult okay 00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:31.270 align:start position:0% making our job more difficult okay 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