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uh just uh tell me where you were born
 

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uh just uh tell me where you were born
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and where you grew up and went to school
 

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and where you grew up and went to school
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sure so i i was born in melbourne
 

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sure so i i was born in melbourne
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in australia and went to school
 

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in australia and went to school
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initially in melbourne then
 

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initially in melbourne then
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moved to the countryside a little town
 

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moved to the countryside a little town
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called castlemaine which is where i went
 

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called castlemaine which is where i went
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through high school
 

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through high school
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and then when it came time for
 

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and then when it came time for
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university had me i went back to
 

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university had me i went back to
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melbourne
 

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and went to university there studied
 

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and went to university there studied
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electrical engineering
 

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and did a master's degree as well and
 

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and did a master's degree as well and
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did you sort of always know you were
 

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did you sort of always know you were
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going to do electrical engineering or
 

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going to do electrical engineering or
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how did you absolutely i think from
 

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how did you absolutely i think from
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quite a young age i knew i was going to
 

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quite a young age i knew i was going to
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do something with
 

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do something with
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electronics so yeah i built i built
 

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electronics so yeah i built i built
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uh pull television sets apart things
 

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uh pull television sets apart things
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like that when i was a kid
 

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like that when i was a kid
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so it was pretty clear i was going to be
 

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so it was pretty clear i was going to be
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an engineer and probably an electrical
 

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an engineer and probably an electrical
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and yeah i guess when i was at
 

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and yeah i guess when i was at
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university then i got interested in
 

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university then i got interested in
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and digital systems what was your
 

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and digital systems what was your
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thesis so master's thesis was in the
 

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thesis so master's thesis was in the
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area of control theory
 

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uh so that's the particular discipline
 

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uh so that's the particular discipline
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says okay you've got a got a machine
 

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says okay you've got a got a machine
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that's got some dynamic characteristics
 

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that's got some dynamic characteristics
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and it behaves like this but i want it
 

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and it behaves like this but i want it
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to behave like something else the
 

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to behave like something else the
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control system uses feedback theory to
 

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control system uses feedback theory to
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do what it is you want it to do so it's
 

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do what it is you want it to do so it's
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one of the elements of robotics
 

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one of the elements of robotics
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so yeah after i was interested in that
 

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so yeah after i was interested in that
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as an undergraduate
 

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and at the end of my study didn't really
 

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and at the end of my study didn't really
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have a job so
 

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have a job so
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i hit up one of my professors and he
 

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i hit up one of my professors and he
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took me on as a research assistant
 

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took me on as a research assistant
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and so i did that i was there for three
 

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and so i did that i was there for three
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uh did my master's during that time was
 

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uh did my master's during that time was
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a research assistant for one year
 

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a research assistant for one year
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and then he got some money to buy
 

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and then he got some money to buy
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himself out of teaching
 

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so that brought me into teaching
 

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so that brought me into teaching
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so for the the last two of those three
 

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so for the the last two of those three
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years i was i was teaching
 

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years i was i was teaching
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uh at the university so i thought
 

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uh at the university so i thought
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and control theory okay
 

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and control theory okay
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and uh did you stay there for your phd
 

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and uh did you stay there for your phd
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so that after i finished there i went
 

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so that after i finished there i went
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and worked for a government research
 

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and worked for a government research
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an organization australia called csiro
 

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an organization australia called csiro
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commonwealth scientific and industrial
 

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commonwealth scientific and industrial
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organization so it's an applied r d
 

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organization so it's an applied r d
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organization and so i was with them for
 

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organization and so i was with them for
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a few years before i did my phd so they
 

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a few years before i did my phd so they
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kind of sponsored me to do my phd
 

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kind of sponsored me to do my phd
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so i did that part time uh over
 

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so i did that part time uh over
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three and a three in a bit years uh it
 

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three and a three in a bit years uh it
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was kind of
 

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was kind of
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aligned with my day job which is it's
 

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aligned with my day job which is it's
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kind of brilliant you
 

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kind of brilliant you
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get paid to to do your phd and it's a
 

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get paid to to do your phd and it's a
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line with your day job so it was
 

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line with your day job so it was
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about as good as it could get and who's
 

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about as good as it could get and who's
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your dissertation advisor
 

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your dissertation advisor
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so my advisor was a professor at
 

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so my advisor was a professor at
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melbourne uni called malcolm good
 

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melbourne uni called malcolm good
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he'd been in melbourne at melbourne
 

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he'd been in melbourne at melbourne
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university for quite a while
 

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university for quite a while
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he spent a period i think he was on
 

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he spent a period i think he was on
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sabbatical
 

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at the ge research labs in schenectady
 

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at the ge research labs in schenectady
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and he worked there with people like
 

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and he worked there with people like
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mark spong
 

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on manipulated dynamics and we came back
 

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on manipulated dynamics and we came back
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from his sabbatical he actually
 

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from his sabbatical he actually
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joined csro for a while so at csiro he
 

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joined csro for a while so at csiro he
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was my boss
 

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and then he went back to the university
 

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and then he went back to the university
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became this student like about a year a
 

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became this student like about a year a
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the other thing that's interesting
 

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the other thing that's interesting
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around this time was that i
 

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around this time was that i
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spent a year in the us so i done my
 

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spent a year in the us so i done my
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masters i was working for this
 

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masters i was working for this
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organization csro i started with them in
 

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organization csro i started with them in
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and in 88 i won a fellowship that
 

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and in 88 i won a fellowship that
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let me go to the university of
 

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pennsylvania to the grasp lab
 

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pennsylvania to the grasp lab
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which is you know still a powerhouse of
 

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which is you know still a powerhouse of
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so when i was there liu paul was there
 

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so when i was there liu paul was there
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regina baichi
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vijay kumar was there uh but i was
 

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vijay kumar was there uh but i was
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working particularly with lou paul
 

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working particularly with lou paul
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uh so he was the guy who hosted me there
 

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uh so he was the guy who hosted me there
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and i spent
 

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nine months at the grass lab and it was
 

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nine months at the grass lab and it was
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it was brilliant
 

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it was brilliant
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and it was at that point i sort of
 

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and it was at that point i sort of
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finished with the grass i came back home
 

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finished with the grass i came back home
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and think yeah i want to do a phd
 

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and think yeah i want to do a phd
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and and then management said yeah that's
 

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and and then management said yeah that's
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and what was your dissertation before
 

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and what was your dissertation before
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so my dissertation was on vision based
 

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so my dissertation was on vision based
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control so
 

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control so
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how do you control what a robot does
 

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how do you control what a robot does
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using images that come from a camera
 

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using images that come from a camera
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which is either watching the robot
 

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which is either watching the robot
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or which is on the end of the robot
 

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or which is on the end of the robot
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watching what
 

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watching what
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what it's doing if before i went to
 

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what it's doing if before i went to
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pennsylvania i was involved
 

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pennsylvania i was involved
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in a project where we're developing some
 

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in a project where we're developing some
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special purpose hardware
 

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for processing images from cameras
 

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for processing images from cameras
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quickly this is a long time ago this is
 

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quickly this is a long time ago this is
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the 1980s computers were really slow
 

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the 1980s computers were really slow
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and they couldn't process images very
 

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and they couldn't process images very
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quickly so we built this
 

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quickly so we built this
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uh amazing hardware system that images
 

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uh amazing hardware system that images
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from a camera would stream through this
 

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from a camera would stream through this
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and what would come out is what we call
 

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and what would come out is what we call
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blob features will tell you
 

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blob features will tell you
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where the objects were in the scene how
 

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where the objects were in the scene how
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big they were what their position was
 

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big they were what their position was
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and you needed a special gadget like
 

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and you needed a special gadget like
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that if you're able to take data from
 

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that if you're able to take data from
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like 25 frames per second get it into a
 

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like 25 frames per second get it into a
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concise form which a robot could act on
 

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concise form which a robot could act on
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if you just got millions of pixels
 

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if you just got millions of pixels
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spewing out of a camera
 

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spewing out of a camera
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but in those days that was too much for
 

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but in those days that was too much for
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the computer to deal with but with this
 

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the computer to deal with but with this
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right which would reduce the data rate
 

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right which would reduce the data rate
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give you just the essence of the image
 

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give you just the essence of the image
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then yeah that could go into robot so i
 

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then yeah that could go into robot so i
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worked on that project and that
 

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worked on that project and that
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hardware was used in all sorts of things
 

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hardware was used in all sorts of things
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was used for food processing and traffic
 

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was used for food processing and traffic
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i took one of them in my bag when i went
 

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i took one of them in my bag when i went
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to university pennsylvania
 

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to university pennsylvania
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and so there i kind of built my first
 

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and so there i kind of built my first
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vision guided robot system and
 

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vision guided robot system and
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yeah it worked that was nice but
 

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yeah it worked that was nice but
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performance was not as good as it could
 

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performance was not as good as it could
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so my dissertation was really doing some
 

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so my dissertation was really doing some
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very detailed modeling
 

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of the dynamics of a camera this image
 

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processing system and the robot
 

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processing system and the robot
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as a complete system and once i had a
 

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as a complete system and once i had a
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decent model then i could
 

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decent model then i could
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design a controller which would really
 

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design a controller which would really
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allow the thing to move
 

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allow the thing to move
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very very quickly are you looking at
 

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very very quickly are you looking at
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for the manipulators end yeah so i had a
 

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for the manipulators end yeah so i had a
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robot in
 

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in my in my lab one of the unimate
 

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in my in my lab one of the unimate
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pumas or pumas as americans call them
 

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pumas or pumas as americans call them
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and yeah that was my that was my lab rat
 

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and yeah that was my that was my lab rat
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and i did all my all my work on that and
 

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and i did all my all my work on that and
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at the time 80s
 

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early 90s the puma was the workhorse of
 

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early 90s the puma was the workhorse of
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of robotics research
 

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of robotics research
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and they're all in in rubbish bins now
 

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and they're all in in rubbish bins now
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and people use other kinds of robots but
 

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and people use other kinds of robots but
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at the time that was
 

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at the time that was
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was the machine some of them are museums
 

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was the machine some of them are museums
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a couple of them really interested in
 

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a couple of them really interested in
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rubbish skips
 

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so uh what was your first robot
 

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so uh what was your first robot
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was that your first the first robot that
 

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was that your first the first robot that
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had anything to do it was when i was
 

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had anything to do it was when i was
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still at the university of melbourne
 

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still at the university of melbourne
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and i can't remember why we did this but
 

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and i can't remember why we did this but
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bought a really early sort of toy robot
 

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so it was a little
 

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it was a little robot arm it was
 

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it was a little robot arm it was
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probably had a reach like this
 

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probably had a reach like this
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like five stepping motors or something
 

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like five stepping motors or something
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like that and
 

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i wrote program to make it play checkers
 

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i wrote program to make it play checkers
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or drafts as we would call it and uh so
 

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or drafts as we would call it and uh so
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we played on a board about
 

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we played on a board about
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this kind of dimension connected up to a
 

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this kind of dimension connected up to a
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so your mini computer is like a rack of
 

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so your mini computer is like a rack of
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equipment like this yeah so i connected
 

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equipment like this yeah so i connected
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robot up to that and made the individual
 

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robot up to that and made the individual
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and then put in an algorithm to allow it
 

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and then put in an algorithm to allow it
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to play checkers and i remember for an
 

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to play checkers and i remember for an
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uh we had it set up so visitors to the
 

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uh we had it set up so visitors to the
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university they could make their move
 

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university they could make their move
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i think i had to type into the computer
 

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i think i had to type into the computer
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what their move was and the robot would
 

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what their move was and the robot would
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come and move its own piece
 

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come and move its own piece
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a person would move there that was that
 

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a person would move there that was that
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was that was pretty successful
 

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was that was pretty successful
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as an open day demo and that was really
 

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as an open day demo and that was really
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my first
 

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first experience with a with a robot
 

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first experience with a with a robot
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just gonna pause for a second so we're
 

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just gonna pause for a second so we're
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back so after you finish your phd did
 

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back so after you finish your phd did
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you go back to csro
 

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you go back to csro
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yeah i did because i i mean i was still
 

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yeah i did because i i mean i was still
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technically working for that was my that
 

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technically working for that was my that
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was my day job
 

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was my day job
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uh so i stayed there for for a while uh
 

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uh so i stayed there for for a while uh
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and the day job was in a few different
 

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and the day job was in a few different
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areas that we were looking at the
 

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areas that we were looking at the
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application of this high-speed computer
 

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application of this high-speed computer
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vision technology and we did a food
 

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vision technology and we did a food
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sorting machine
 

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sorting machine
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uh we did a big traffic monitoring
 

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uh we did a big traffic monitoring
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system which is actually still
 

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system which is actually still
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still running in australia and we'd also
 

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still running in australia and we'd also
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done a bit of work with
 

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done a bit of work with
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in the manufacturing sector
 

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in the manufacturing sector
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manufacturing in australia has always
 

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manufacturing in australia has always
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been a bit
 

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been a bit
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fraught it's we still have a
 

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fraught it's we still have a
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just have a manufacturing industry but
 

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just have a manufacturing industry but
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every year it gets less and less
 

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every year it gets less and less
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it was problematic even even back then
 

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it was problematic even even back then
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in the in the 90s
 

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in the in the 90s
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and so we work with some indigenous
 

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robot manufacturers and machine tool
 

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robot manufacturers and machine tool
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trying to you know upskill them that was
 

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trying to you know upskill them that was
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probably a long term a losing
 

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probably a long term a losing
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so when they the the chief of my
 

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so when they the the chief of my
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how would you like to move to brisbane
 

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how would you like to move to brisbane
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uh and get involved in mining robotics
 

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uh and get involved in mining robotics
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yeah just manufacturing robotics
 

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yeah just manufacturing robotics
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binding robotics how different can it be
 

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binding robotics how different can it be
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i talked about that with my wife and
 

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i talked about that with my wife and
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eventually we decided
 

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eventually we decided
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we do that so moved to brisbane in 95
 

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we do that so moved to brisbane in 95
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and started a small activity in
 

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and started a small activity in
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mining automation and mining robotics
 

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mining automation and mining robotics
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industrial robotics in
 

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australia was it pretty much focused on
 

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australia was it pretty much focused on
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mining and manufacturing or were there
 

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mining and manufacturing or were there
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some other companies and how would you
 

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some other companies and how would you
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compare it to the us or japan
 

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compare it to the us or japan
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the us japan and and is that australia
 

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the us japan and and is that australia
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doesn't have a very we got a small
 

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doesn't have a very we got a small
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population and we're relatively small
 

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population and we're relatively small
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manufacturing
 

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manufacturing
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industry and to service just the local
 

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industry and to service just the local
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population it's
 

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population it's
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it's not really it's not really cost
 

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it's not really it's not really cost
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effective
 

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effective
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and the country used to be protected by
 

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and the country used to be protected by
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tariff barriers but tariff barriers
 

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tariff barriers but tariff barriers
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started to be
 

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started to be
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torn down in the 80s and 90s and the
 

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torn down in the 80s and 90s and the
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local manufacturers just couldn't
 

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local manufacturers just couldn't
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compete with
 

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compete with
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with imports so australia was
 

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with imports so australia was
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one time probably quite self-sufficient
 

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one time probably quite self-sufficient
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in manufacturing everything
 

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in manufacturing everything
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you know textile industry died shoes
 

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you know textile industry died shoes
footwear

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footwear
 

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footwear
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died car industry started a long decline
 

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died car industry started a long decline
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which is almost played out now so
 

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which is almost played out now so
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in some ways it didn't make sense to
 

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in some ways it didn't make sense to
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to do manufacturing robotics in in
 

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to do manufacturing robotics in in
australia

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australia
 

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australia
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it just didn't didn't fit with the
 

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it just didn't didn't fit with the
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economic
 

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economic
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foundations of the country australia is
 

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foundations of the country australia is
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interesting in that it's
 

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interesting in that it's
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considered to be a first world country
 

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considered to be a first world country
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but the economic underpinnings are
 

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but the economic underpinnings are
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really that of a third world country i
 

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really that of a third world country i
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mean it's based on agriculture
 

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mean it's based on agriculture
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and mineral and energy exports that's
 

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and mineral and energy exports that's
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what keeps the country afloat
 

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what keeps the country afloat
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so it was what happened in the 80s and
 

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so it was what happened in the 80s and
90s

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90s
 

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90s
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is to think well okay in japan you know
 

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is to think well okay in japan you know
that

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that
 

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that
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they have particular applications for
 

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they have particular applications for
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robotics in manufacturing
 

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robotics in manufacturing
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in europe also they do manufacturing uh
 

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in europe also they do manufacturing uh
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the us yeah a lot of manufacturing
 

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the us yeah a lot of manufacturing
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there's some military stuff
 

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there's some military stuff
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japan and america had nuclear reactors
 

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japan and america had nuclear reactors
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and things that needed cleaning up
 

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and things that needed cleaning up
certain

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certain
 

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certain
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robots for those applications none of
 

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robots for those applications none of
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those things made any sense in australia
 

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those things made any sense in australia
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i think for a while we're just
 

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i think for a while we're just
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slavishly following what everyone else
 

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slavishly following what everyone else
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was doing
 

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was doing
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i think in the 90s though the penny
 

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i think in the 90s though the penny
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dropped and was that we should do
 

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dropped and was that we should do
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robotics that made sense
 

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robotics that made sense
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in australia so this would be two
 

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in australia so this would be two
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two groups quite strong groups grew up
 

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two groups quite strong groups grew up
in

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in
 

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in
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the 90s the group at csro where i was we
 

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the 90s the group at csro where i was we
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pushed into uh into mining robotics
 

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pushed into uh into mining robotics
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and there was the group at the
 

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and there was the group at the
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university of sydney that's so huge
 

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university of sydney that's so huge
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white's group the australian center for
 

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white's group the australian center for
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field robotics and they did work
 

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field robotics and they did work
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in mining area as well they also did a
 

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in mining area as well they also did a
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lot of work in logistics
 

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lot of work in logistics
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and container portal automation and the
 

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and container portal automation and the
like

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like
 

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like
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so you know i think both groups realized
 

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so you know i think both groups realized
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that if you wanted to do robotics in
 

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that if you wanted to do robotics in
australia

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australia
 

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australia
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you had to go after something that was
 

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you had to go after something that was
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economically important
 

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economically important
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and after working in with say the
 

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and after working in with say the
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manufacturing industry which was really
 

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manufacturing industry which was really
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it wasn't very healthy you know they
 

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it wasn't very healthy you know they
they

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they
 

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they
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a lot of very small companies weren't
 

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a lot of very small companies weren't
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well capitalized weren't really able to
 

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well capitalized weren't really able to
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invest in robotics research
 

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invest in robotics research
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probably weren't even able to invest in
 

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probably weren't even able to invest in
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robots you could just buy off the shelf
 

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robots you could just buy off the shelf
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mining everything was completely
 

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mining everything was completely
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different huge turnover
 

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different huge turnover
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and if you use robots to improve the
 

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and if you use robots to improve the
productivity

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productivity
 

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productivity
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of a process like digging the dirt that
 

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of a process like digging the dirt that
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uncovers a coal seam
 

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uncovers a coal seam
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you improve their productivity by say a
 

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you improve their productivity by say a
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percent you know it's to the company
 

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percent you know it's to the company
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it's worth millions of dollars a year
 

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it's worth millions of dollars a year
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it would pay for itself in less than a
 

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it would pay for itself in less than a
year

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year
 

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year
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and so it was just the numbers worked
 

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and so it was just the numbers worked
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really well in mining where they didn't
 

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really well in mining where they didn't
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work very well in manufacturing so
 

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work very well in manufacturing so
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it was kind of a push factor and it was
 

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it was kind of a push factor and it was
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also a pull factor
 

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also a pull factor
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mining also had a has a safety
 

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mining also had a has a safety
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consideration as well a number of miners
 

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consideration as well a number of miners
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are killed and injured every year
 

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are killed and injured every year
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and that number's much much less than it
 

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and that number's much much less than it
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ever used to be
 

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ever used to be
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but you know it's not zero it's flat
 

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but you know it's not zero it's flat
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it's plateauing out at some number
 

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it's plateauing out at some number
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bigger than zero and it will be that way
 

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bigger than zero and it will be that way
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while this human being's involved in the
 

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while this human being's involved in the
process

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process
 

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process
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so you know the early big dream of the
 

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so you know the early big dream of the
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mining guys was
 

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mining guys was
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to know people underground or in
 

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to know people underground or in
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dangerous places we just put machines
 

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dangerous places we just put machines
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there and that way then you'll get the
 

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there and that way then you'll get the
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so uh what would you say were the big
 

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so uh what would you say were the big
robotics

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robotics
 

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robotics
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issues or questions or problems that you
 

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issues or questions or problems that you
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started addressing when you
 

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started addressing when you
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so the biggest the biggest challenges in
 

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so the biggest the biggest challenges in
mining

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mining
 

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mining
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automation is that the world is
 

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automation is that the world is
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continually changing
 

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continually changing
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that's the process of mining right you
 

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that's the process of mining right you
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start with a with a nice pristine
 

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start with a with a nice pristine
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environment and you want to transform it
 

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environment and you want to transform it
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so you can get the minerals out so
 

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so you can get the minerals out so
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everything is changing continuously
 

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everything is changing continuously
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where you know the paradigm in
 

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where you know the paradigm in
manufacturing<00:14:02.720><c> is</c>

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manufacturing is
 

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manufacturing is
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everything's static and arranged
 

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everything's static and arranged
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beautifully the robot knows where it is
 

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beautifully the robot knows where it is
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the robot knows where all the work
 

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the robot knows where all the work
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pieces are
 

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pieces are
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it knows that it reaches to this cord
 

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it knows that it reaches to this cord
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that you know it's going to get the
 

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that you know it's going to get the
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object that it wants and it's going to
 

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object that it wants and it's going to
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put it over here at this coordinate
 

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put it over here at this coordinate
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so very coordinate oriented
 

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so very coordinate oriented
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and underpinning assumption that the
 

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and underpinning assumption that the
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world is
 

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world is
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time invariant in mining it's not like
 

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time invariant in mining it's not like
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that you don't exactly know where the
 

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that you don't exactly know where the
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machine is
 

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machine is
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don't exactly know where is the thing
 

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don't exactly know where is the thing
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that it needs to manipulate
 

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that it needs to manipulate
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uh yet it needs it needs to do that
 

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uh yet it needs it needs to do that
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and what's interesting about that
 

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and what's interesting about that
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situation is it actually uses some of
 

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situation is it actually uses some of
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the ideas that my dissertation was about
 

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the ideas that my dissertation was about
so

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so
 

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so
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if a robot's got a camera in it for
 

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if a robot's got a camera in it for
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example and it wants to
 

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example and it wants to
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reach the widget it doesn't need to know
 

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reach the widget it doesn't need to know
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where it is it doesn't need to know
 

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where it is it doesn't need to know
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where the widget is
 

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where the widget is
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it just needs to be able to move so that
 

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it just needs to be able to move so that
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the distance between the hand and the
 

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the distance between the hand and the
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widget goes to zero
 

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widget goes to zero
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and so those ideas about the relative
 

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and so those ideas about the relative
positioning

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positioning
 

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positioning
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become important in environments which
 

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become important in environments which
are

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are
 

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are
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and how long did you stay at them
 

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and how long did you stay at them
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so we started in 95 and that was
 

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so we started in 95 and that was
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just uh two of us and we grew that
 

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just uh two of us and we grew that
activity

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activity
 

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activity
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over a period of years uh through a lab
 

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over a period of years uh through a lab
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with 40 people in it
 

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with 40 people in it
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in 2008 which was when i
 

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in 2008 which was when i
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i finished at csiro so the certainly the
 

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i finished at csiro so the certainly the
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period between 95
 

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period between 95
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and and 2005
 

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and and 2005
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we did a lot of work in in this mining
 

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we did a lot of work in in this mining
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automation area so we
 

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automation area so we
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automated massive excavating machines
 

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automated massive excavating machines
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you know machines that weigh three four
 

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you know machines that weigh three four
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thousand tons
 

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thousand tons
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and are used to uncover coal seams we
 

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and are used to uncover coal seams we
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automated machines that drive
 

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automated machines that drive
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in the underground tunnel networks of of
 

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in the underground tunnel networks of of
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metal mines so copper mines gold mines
 

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metal mines so copper mines gold mines
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those sorts of things
 

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those sorts of things
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and certainly that technology that
 

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and certainly that technology that
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technology in particular was licensed to
 

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technology in particular was licensed to
caterpillar

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caterpillar
 

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caterpillar
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and that's available as a product they
 

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and that's available as a product they
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sell called mine gem
 

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sell called mine gem
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so it was an underground vehicle
 

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so it was an underground vehicle
navigation<00:16:08.560><c> system</c>

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navigation system
 

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navigation system
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and that was probably that was kind of
 

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and that was probably that was kind of
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the peak time for
 

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the peak time for
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the mining automation work mining
 

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the mining automation work mining
industry<00:16:15.839><c> is</c><00:16:16.000><c> incredibly</c><00:16:16.560><c> cyclic</c>

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industry is incredibly cyclic
 

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industry is incredibly cyclic
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so you go through these continual boom
 

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so you go through these continual boom
bust<00:16:20.480><c> phases</c>

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bust phases
 

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bust phases
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and i think around 2004 or five there
 

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and i think around 2004 or five there
was

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was
 

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was
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yet another bust i think i rode four of
 

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yet another bust i think i rode four of
them

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them
 

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them
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boom bust cycles in you know 15 years
 

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boom bust cycles in you know 15 years
it's<00:16:31.600><c> it's</c>

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it's it's
 

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it's it's
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kind of crazy so around that point then
 

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kind of crazy so around that point then
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we figured we needed to
 

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we figured we needed to
diversify<00:16:37.440><c> our</c><00:16:37.600><c> portfolio</c><00:16:38.800><c> and</c><00:16:39.120><c> we</c><00:16:39.360><c> started</c>

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diversify our portfolio and we started
 

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diversify our portfolio and we started
to

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to
 

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to
get<00:16:40.480><c> interested</c><00:16:40.880><c> in</c><00:16:41.120><c> robots</c><00:16:41.680><c> for</c>

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get interested in robots for
 

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get interested in robots for
environmental<00:16:43.600><c> monitoring</c><00:16:44.240><c> so</c><00:16:44.399><c> we</c><00:16:44.560><c> started</c>

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environmental monitoring so we started
 

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environmental monitoring so we started
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to think about
 

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to think about
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robots that fly and could you know
 

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robots that fly and could you know
monitor

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monitor
 

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monitor
forests<00:16:50.160><c> and</c><00:16:50.399><c> creeks</c><00:16:50.959><c> and</c><00:16:51.199><c> coastal</c><00:16:51.600><c> strips</c>

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forests and creeks and coastal strips
 

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forests and creeks and coastal strips
and<00:16:52.160><c> also</c>

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and also
 

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and also
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underwater robots it's a great big
 

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underwater robots it's a great big
barrier<00:16:55.759><c> reef</c>

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barrier reef
 

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barrier reef
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uh off the coast of queensland uh
 

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uh off the coast of queensland uh
we're<00:16:59.759><c> which</c><00:17:00.079><c> is</c><00:17:00.160><c> young</c><00:17:00.800><c> north</c><00:17:01.040><c> of</c><00:17:01.120><c> where</c>

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we're which is young north of where
 

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we're which is young north of where
brisbane<00:17:01.839><c> is</c><00:17:02.320><c> and</c><00:17:02.480><c> we</c><00:17:02.639><c> thought</c><00:17:02.800><c> well</c><00:17:02.959><c> that</c>

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brisbane is and we thought well that
 

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brisbane is and we thought well that
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could be pretty nice we could do
 

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could be pretty nice we could do
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we could build special robots for
 

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we could build special robots for
tropical<00:17:06.799><c> reef</c><00:17:07.120><c> survey</c>

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tropical reef survey
 

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tropical reef survey
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and then we'd have to go to tropical
 

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and then we'd have to go to tropical
reefs

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reefs
 

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reefs
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so we started a big activity in uh in
 

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so we started a big activity in uh in
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under underwater robotics as well and
 

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under underwater robotics as well and
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both the area robots and the underwater
 

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both the area robots and the underwater
robots<00:17:19.600><c> we</c><00:17:19.760><c> built</c>

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robots we built
 

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robots we built
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had vision systems in them so they used
 

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had vision systems in them so they used
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vision to work out how they were moving
 

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vision to work out how they were moving
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with respect to the environment
 

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with respect to the environment
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to detect things that they might collide
 

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to detect things that they might collide
with<00:17:27.839><c> and</c><00:17:28.240><c> avoid</c>

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with and avoid
 

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with and avoid
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so there's kind of this thread of vision
 

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so there's kind of this thread of vision
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going through the work for
 

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going through the work for
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you know all that time but was this the
 

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you know all that time but was this the
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point in which you
 

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point in which you
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sort of branched out into sensor
 

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sort of branched out into sensor
networks<00:17:38.400><c> as</c><00:17:38.559><c> an</c><00:17:38.720><c> interest</c>

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networks as an interest
 

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networks as an interest
okay<00:17:39.760><c> so</c><00:17:39.919><c> the</c><00:17:40.000><c> sensor</c><00:17:40.320><c> network</c><00:17:40.799><c> thing</c><00:17:41.039><c> is</c><00:17:41.280><c> uh</c><00:17:42.160><c> a</c>

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okay so the sensor network thing is uh a
 

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okay so the sensor network thing is uh a
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thing that quite orthogonal to
 

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thing that quite orthogonal to
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everything else that i
 

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everything else that i
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that i done before and this started
 

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that i done before and this started
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i think about 2000 around 2004
 

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i think about 2000 around 2004
uh<00:17:54.720><c> good</c><00:17:54.960><c> friend</c><00:17:55.120><c> of</c><00:17:55.200><c> mine</c><00:17:55.760><c> uh</c><00:17:56.000><c> daniela</c><00:17:56.480><c> roos</c>

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uh good friend of mine uh daniela roos
 

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uh good friend of mine uh daniela roos
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and at that time she was at dartmouth
 

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and at that time she was at dartmouth
college<00:17:59.360><c> she</c><00:17:59.679><c> later</c><00:18:00.000><c> moved</c><00:18:00.240><c> to</c>

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college she later moved to
 

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college she later moved to
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mit and she gave me
 

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mit and she gave me
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a bunch i think six wireless sensor
 

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a bunch i think six wireless sensor
network<00:18:08.720><c> devices</c>

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i<00:18:11.840><c> can't</c><00:18:12.080><c> remember</c><00:18:12.720><c> exactly</c><00:18:13.120><c> what</c><00:18:13.360><c> model</c><00:18:14.080><c> what</c>

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i can't remember exactly what model what
 

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i can't remember exactly what model what
model<00:18:14.559><c> they</c><00:18:14.720><c> were</c><00:18:15.039><c> but</c><00:18:15.200><c> they</c><00:18:15.360><c> were</c><00:18:15.600><c> they</c><00:18:15.760><c> were</c>

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model they were but they were they were
 

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model they were but they were they were
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quite primitive but they were they were
 

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quite primitive but they were they were
kind<00:18:17.760><c> of</c><00:18:17.919><c> cute</c><00:18:18.160><c> those</c><00:18:18.480><c> little</c><00:18:18.640><c> tiny</c><00:18:18.960><c> little</c>

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kind of cute those little tiny little
 

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kind of cute those little tiny little
things

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things
 

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things
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with a radio and a computer you could
 

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with a radio and a computer you could
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program them and they could talk to each
 

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program them and they could talk to each
other

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other
 

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other
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and do and do interesting things and got
 

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and do and do interesting things and got
interested<00:18:26.320><c> in</c><00:18:26.559><c> what</c>

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interested in what
 

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interested in what
they<00:18:27.520><c> could</c><00:18:27.760><c> do</c><00:18:28.000><c> for</c><00:18:28.240><c> environmental</c>

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they could do for environmental
 

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they could do for environmental
monitoring<00:18:29.280><c> as</c><00:18:29.360><c> well</c><00:18:29.520><c> so</c><00:18:29.679><c> you</c><00:18:29.760><c> could</c><00:18:29.840><c> have</c>

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monitoring as well so you could have
 

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monitoring as well so you could have
robots<00:18:30.400><c> flying</c><00:18:30.720><c> over</c><00:18:30.960><c> and</c><00:18:31.039><c> looking</c><00:18:31.280><c> for</c><00:18:31.360><c> a</c>

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robots flying over and looking for a
 

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robots flying over and looking for a
distance

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distance
 

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distance
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but you could have these things actually
 

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but you could have these things actually
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embedded into into the environment
 

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embedded into into the environment
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so we looked at these things and these
 

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so we looked at these things and these
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were sort of first generation wireless
 

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were sort of first generation wireless
sensor<00:18:41.520><c> network</c><00:18:41.919><c> nodes</c><00:18:43.200><c> and</c><00:18:43.520><c> the</c><00:18:43.679><c> engineer</c><00:18:44.000><c> in</c>

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sensor network nodes and the engineer in
 

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sensor network nodes and the engineer in
me<00:18:44.240><c> said</c><00:18:44.400><c> these</c><00:18:44.559><c> things</c><00:18:44.799><c> aren't</c><00:18:44.960><c> very</c><00:18:45.200><c> well</c>

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me said these things aren't very well
 

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me said these things aren't very well
built

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built
 

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built
so<00:18:46.480><c> i</c><00:18:46.640><c> had</c><00:18:46.720><c> a</c><00:18:46.880><c> really</c><00:18:47.039><c> good</c><00:18:47.280><c> team</c><00:18:47.520><c> of</c><00:18:47.679><c> uh</c><00:18:48.160><c> of</c>

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so i had a really good team of uh of
 

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so i had a really good team of uh of
engineers<00:18:48.880><c> electronics</c><00:18:49.440><c> guys</c><00:18:49.760><c> software</c><00:18:50.160><c> guys</c>

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engineers electronics guys software guys
 

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engineers electronics guys software guys
so

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so
 

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so
we<00:18:51.039><c> decided</c><00:18:51.440><c> we'd</c><00:18:51.600><c> build</c><00:18:51.840><c> our</c><00:18:52.080><c> own</c><00:18:52.960><c> a</c><00:18:53.120><c> wireless</c>

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we decided we'd build our own a wireless
 

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we decided we'd build our own a wireless
sensor<00:18:53.760><c> network</c><00:18:54.160><c> device</c>

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sensor network device
 

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sensor network device
and<00:18:56.960><c> there</c><00:18:57.120><c> were</c><00:18:57.280><c> several</c><00:18:57.840><c> several</c>

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and there were several several
 

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and there were several several
generations<00:18:58.799><c> of</c><00:18:58.880><c> this</c><00:18:59.120><c> thing</c><00:18:59.280><c> but</c><00:18:59.440><c> we</c><00:18:59.600><c> used</c><00:18:59.919><c> it</c>

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generations of this thing but we used it
 

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generations of this thing but we used it
for

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for
 

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for
you<00:19:00.960><c> know</c><00:19:01.440><c> quite</c><00:19:01.760><c> a</c><00:19:01.919><c> number</c><00:19:02.240><c> of</c><00:19:02.480><c> environmental</c>

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you know quite a number of environmental
 

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you know quite a number of environmental
monitoring

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monitoring
 

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monitoring
applications<00:19:05.200><c> and</c><00:19:05.360><c> so</c><00:19:05.520><c> we</c><00:19:05.679><c> put</c><00:19:05.919><c> them</c><00:19:06.160><c> in</c><00:19:06.880><c> we</c>

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applications and so we put them in we
 

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applications and so we put them in we
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put them in underwater environments we
 

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put them in underwater environments we
put<00:19:09.039><c> them</c><00:19:09.200><c> in</c><00:19:09.360><c> rainforests</c>

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put them in rainforests
 

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put them in rainforests
i<00:19:10.880><c> put</c><00:19:11.039><c> them</c><00:19:11.280><c> on</c><00:19:11.440><c> sugar</c><00:19:11.840><c> farms</c><00:19:13.520><c> at</c><00:19:13.679><c> one</c><00:19:13.919><c> point</c>

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i put them on sugar farms at one point
 

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i put them on sugar farms at one point
we<00:19:14.400><c> put</c><00:19:14.640><c> uh</c>

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we put uh
 

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we put uh
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we put them on animals so we actually
 

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we put them on animals so we actually
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put them in special collars on cows
 

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put them in special collars on cows
and<00:19:19.840><c> monitored</c><00:19:20.480><c> where</c><00:19:20.720><c> the</c><00:19:20.880><c> cows</c><00:19:21.120><c> were</c><00:19:21.280><c> going</c>

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and monitored where the cows were going
 

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and monitored where the cows were going
and<00:19:21.600><c> what</c><00:19:21.760><c> they</c><00:19:22.000><c> were</c><00:19:22.160><c> doing</c><00:19:22.480><c> so</c><00:19:22.640><c> we</c><00:19:22.799><c> actually</c>

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and what they were doing so we actually
 

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and what they were doing so we actually
built<00:19:23.200><c> these</c><00:19:23.440><c> maps</c>

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built these maps
 

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built these maps
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of space and time and animal behavior so
 

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of space and time and animal behavior so
we could<00:19:26.799><c> tell</c><00:19:26.960><c> when</c><00:19:27.120><c> they</c><00:19:27.200><c> were</c><00:19:27.360><c> resting</c>

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we could tell when they were resting
 

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we could tell when they were resting
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and they're ruminating when they were
 

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and they're ruminating when they were
walking<00:19:30.080><c> what</c><00:19:30.320><c> speed</c><00:19:30.640><c> they</c><00:19:30.799><c> were</c><00:19:30.960><c> walking</c><00:19:31.360><c> at</c>

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walking what speed they were walking at
 

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walking what speed they were walking at
and<00:19:32.080><c> this</c><00:19:32.720><c> provided</c><00:19:33.360><c> data</c><00:19:33.679><c> that</c><00:19:33.919><c> was</c><00:19:34.640><c> just</c>

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and this provided data that was just
 

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and this provided data that was just
amazed<00:19:35.600><c> at</c><00:19:35.840><c> animal</c><00:19:36.160><c> scientists</c><00:19:36.559><c> with</c><00:19:36.720><c> insider</c>

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amazed at animal scientists with insider
 

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amazed at animal scientists with insider
that<00:19:37.280><c> we</c><00:19:37.440><c> work</c><00:19:37.679><c> with</c><00:19:37.919><c> because</c>

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that we work with because
 

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that we work with because
they<00:19:38.880><c> had</c><00:19:39.039><c> such</c><00:19:39.280><c> primitive</c><00:19:39.840><c> ways</c><00:19:40.480><c> of</c>

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they had such primitive ways of
 

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they had such primitive ways of
acquiring<00:19:41.679><c> data</c><00:19:41.919><c> about</c><00:19:42.000><c> what</c><00:19:42.240><c> animals</c>

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acquiring data about what animals
 

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acquiring data about what animals
did<00:19:43.440><c> very</c><00:19:43.679><c> labor</c><00:19:44.000><c> intensive</c><00:19:44.400><c> they</c><00:19:44.559><c> built</c>

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did very labor intensive they built
 

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did very labor intensive they built
towers<00:19:45.280><c> with</c><00:19:45.440><c> binoculars</c><00:19:46.080><c> and</c><00:19:46.160><c> looked</c><00:19:46.400><c> down</c>

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towers with binoculars and looked down
 

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towers with binoculars and looked down
and<00:19:46.720><c> make</c><00:19:46.880><c> notes</c><00:19:47.200><c> on</c><00:19:47.280><c> bits</c><00:19:47.440><c> of</c><00:19:47.520><c> paper</c>

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and make notes on bits of paper
 

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and make notes on bits of paper
so<00:19:48.400><c> we</c><00:19:48.480><c> just</c><00:19:48.640><c> put</c><00:19:48.799><c> this</c><00:19:48.960><c> thing</c><00:19:49.120><c> on</c><00:19:49.280><c> animal</c>

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so we just put this thing on animal
 

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so we just put this thing on animal
download<00:19:50.640><c> it</c><00:19:50.799><c> and</c><00:19:50.880><c> they</c><00:19:51.039><c> just</c><00:19:51.280><c> had</c><00:19:51.440><c> the</c><00:19:51.520><c> most</c>

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download it and they just had the most
 

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download it and they just had the most
gorgeous<00:19:52.240><c> data</c>

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gorgeous data
 

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gorgeous data
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so what kind of things did you learn
 

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so what kind of things did you learn
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about the cows i learned about
 

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about the cows i learned about
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how far they they'd walk in a day and
 

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how far they they'd walk in a day and
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from that then the nutritionist could
 

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from that then the nutritionist could
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work at how many calories they expended
 

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work at how many calories they expended
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in a day
 

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in a day
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and therefore how much fodder they
 

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and therefore how much fodder they
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should they should be eating
 

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should they should be eating
we<00:20:07.600><c> learned</c><00:20:08.000><c> how</c><00:20:08.320><c> they</c>

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we learned how they
 

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we learned how they
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that what they the animal people call it
 

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that what they the animal people call it
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how they utilize the pasture but it
 

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how they utilize the pasture but it
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basically means where they at
 

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basically means where they at
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from and they don't eat a pasture
 

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from and they don't eat a pasture
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uniformly they eat it very
 

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uniformly they eat it very
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uniformly how many times they go and
 

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uniformly how many times they go and
drink

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drink
 

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drink
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who they hang out with so there was this
 

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who they hang out with so there was this
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great range of
 

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great range of
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of information that nobody had ever seen
 

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of information that nobody had ever seen
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before they get up in the middle of the
 

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before they get up in the middle of the
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night and wander around for a bit
 

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night and wander around for a bit
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so there was just a wealth of data it
 

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so there was just a wealth of data it
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was a streaming out of these devices
 

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was a streaming out of these devices
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that we
 

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that we
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that we put onto onto the animals
 

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that we put onto onto the animals
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and we took it one step further and said
 

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and we took it one step further and said
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and this is this is not our idea this
 

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and this is this is not our idea this
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this is it's a pre-existing idea but we
 

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this is it's a pre-existing idea but we
implemented<00:20:47.679><c> it</c>

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implemented it
 

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implemented it
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that if the device or the animal knows
 

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that if the device or the animal knows
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where the animal is and you've got
 

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where the animal is and you've got
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you don't want to you want to stay
 

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you don't want to you want to stay
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within a spatial region
 

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within a spatial region
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the traditional approach is you put up
 

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the traditional approach is you put up
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fences you can actually program the
 

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fences you can actually program the
device<00:21:00.000><c> to</c>

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device to
 

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device to
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um emit an aversive stimulus to the
 

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um emit an aversive stimulus to the
animal

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animal
 

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animal
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to stop it crossing a line so the
 

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to stop it crossing a line so the
abusive<00:21:06.799><c> stimulus</c>

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abusive stimulus
 

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abusive stimulus
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is a noise followed by an electric shock
 

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is a noise followed by an electric shock
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it sounds pretty terrible but it's it's
 

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it sounds pretty terrible but it's it's
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not that bad the shock is no worse than
 

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not that bad the shock is no worse than
electric<00:21:15.520><c> fence</c>

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electric fence
 

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electric fence
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the animal quite quickly learns to
 

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the animal quite quickly learns to
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associate the sound with an impending
 

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associate the sound with an impending
shock

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shock
 

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shock
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so after three four learning episodes as
 

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so after three four learning episodes as
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soon as i hear the noise then they just
 

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soon as i hear the noise then they just
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stop going in that direction
 

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stop going in that direction
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so you can keep animals in a in a
 

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so you can keep animals in a in a
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spatial region without a physical fence
 

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spatial region without a physical fence
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advantage of that is fences are
 

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advantage of that is fences are
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expensive to put up
 

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expensive to put up
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they get washed away in floods and
 

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they get washed away in floods and
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things like that and in
 

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things like that and in
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northern parts of australia there are
 

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northern parts of australia there are
huge<00:21:39.520><c> properties</c>

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huge properties
 

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huge properties
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hundreds of thousands of hectares so
 

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hundreds of thousands of hectares so
fencing<00:21:44.960><c> those</c><00:21:45.120><c> things</c><00:21:45.360><c> is</c><00:21:45.520><c> really</c><00:21:45.679><c> expensive</c>

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fencing those things is really expensive
 

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fencing those things is really expensive
so<00:21:47.120><c> the</c><00:21:47.280><c> dream</c><00:21:47.600><c> was</c><00:21:47.840><c> that</c><00:21:47.919><c> this</c><00:21:48.080><c> would</c><00:21:48.240><c> replace</c>

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so the dream was that this would replace
 

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so the dream was that this would replace
all

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all
 

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all
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of that and we did experiments working
 

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of that and we did experiments working
with<00:21:51.760><c> some</c><00:21:51.919><c> really</c>

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with some really
 

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with some really
some<00:21:53.200><c> brilliant</c><00:21:53.760><c> uh</c><00:21:54.080><c> animal</c><00:21:54.480><c> behavioralists</c>

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some brilliant uh animal behavioralists
 

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some brilliant uh animal behavioralists
within<00:21:55.520><c> csiro</c>

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within csiro
 

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within csiro
demonstrated<00:21:57.120><c> that</c><00:21:57.360><c> it</c><00:21:57.520><c> worked</c><00:21:58.320><c> we</c><00:21:58.480><c> could</c>

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demonstrated that it worked we could
 

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demonstrated that it worked we could
move<00:21:58.880><c> the</c><00:21:58.960><c> fences</c><00:21:59.440><c> around</c>

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move the fences around
 

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move the fences around
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you could sep you could have different
 

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you could sep you could have different
fences<00:22:01.760><c> for</c><00:22:01.919><c> different</c><00:22:02.240><c> animals</c><00:22:02.640><c> you</c><00:22:02.720><c> could</c>

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fences for different animals you could
 

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fences for different animals you could
separate<00:22:03.840><c> them</c><00:22:04.000><c> by</c><00:22:04.240><c> sex</c><00:22:04.640><c> or</c><00:22:04.720><c> by</c><00:22:04.960><c> age</c><00:22:05.360><c> or</c>

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separate them by sex or by age or
 

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separate them by sex or by age or
whatever

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whatever
 

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whatever
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but it didn't it ultimately didn't go
 

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but it didn't it ultimately didn't go
anywhere<00:22:09.600><c> and</c><00:22:09.679><c> it's</c>

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anywhere and it's
 

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anywhere and it's
it's<00:22:10.240><c> probably</c><00:22:10.559><c> the</c><00:22:10.640><c> project</c><00:22:11.039><c> that</c><00:22:11.200><c> i'm</c><00:22:11.440><c> in</c>

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it's probably the project that i'm in
 

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it's probably the project that i'm in
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some ways the most fond of and would
 

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some ways the most fond of and would
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love to get back to
 

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love to get back to
uh<00:22:15.120><c> it's</c><00:22:15.520><c> it's</c><00:22:15.760><c> almost</c><00:22:16.080><c> it's</c><00:22:16.240><c> sort</c><00:22:16.480><c> of</c><00:22:16.559><c> fringy</c>

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uh it's it's almost it's sort of fringy
 

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uh it's it's almost it's sort of fringy
robotics<00:22:17.600><c> right</c><00:22:17.919><c> you're</c><00:22:18.400><c> sort</c><00:22:18.559><c> of</c><00:22:18.799><c> putting</c><00:22:19.200><c> a</c>

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robotics right you're sort of putting a
 

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robotics right you're sort of putting a
device<00:22:20.159><c> on</c><00:22:20.240><c> an</c><00:22:20.400><c> animal</c><00:22:20.799><c> that</c><00:22:20.960><c> makes</c><00:22:21.200><c> it</c><00:22:21.360><c> behave</c>

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device on an animal that makes it behave
 

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device on an animal that makes it behave
in<00:22:21.919><c> a</c><00:22:22.080><c> particular</c><00:22:22.480><c> way</c>

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in a particular way
 

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in a particular way
it's<00:22:23.039><c> a</c><00:22:23.120><c> control</c><00:22:24.840><c> system</c>

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it's a control system
 

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it's a control system
that's<00:22:26.480><c> great</c><00:22:27.440><c> so</c><00:22:27.679><c> uh</c><00:22:28.080><c> for</c><00:22:28.240><c> the</c><00:22:28.400><c> underwater</c>

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that's great so uh for the underwater
 

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that's great so uh for the underwater
wireless<00:22:29.520><c> networks</c><00:22:29.919><c> did</c><00:22:30.080><c> you</c><00:22:30.240><c> have</c><00:22:30.320><c> to</c><00:22:30.400><c> use</c>

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wireless networks did you have to use
 

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wireless networks did you have to use
acoustic

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acoustic
 

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acoustic
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so this was some some joint work again
 

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so this was some some joint work again
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with daniela roos
 

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with daniela roos
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and i think by this time she was at mit
 

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and i think by this time she was at mit
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and acoustics is the normal way you
 

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and acoustics is the normal way you
solve<00:22:42.000><c> this</c><00:22:42.240><c> problem</c>

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solve this problem
 

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solve this problem
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but acoustic modems are expensive kind
 

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but acoustic modems are expensive kind
of<00:22:46.320><c> energy</c><00:22:46.720><c> hungry</c>

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of energy hungry
 

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of energy hungry
and<00:22:48.400><c> miserably</c><00:22:48.960><c> low</c><00:22:49.360><c> bandwidth</c><00:22:50.559><c> and</c>

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and miserably low bandwidth and
 

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and miserably low bandwidth and
because<00:22:51.440><c> they're</c><00:22:51.600><c> emitting</c><00:22:51.919><c> an</c><00:22:52.080><c> acoustic</c>

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because they're emitting an acoustic
 

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because they're emitting an acoustic
signal<00:22:52.880><c> they</c><00:22:53.039><c> interfere</c><00:22:53.520><c> with</c><00:22:53.679><c> one</c><00:22:53.840><c> another</c>

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signal they interfere with one another
 

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signal they interfere with one another
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so only one can be talking at a time
 

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so only one can be talking at a time
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so what we want what we just decided to
 

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so what we want what we just decided to
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do or what we decided to investigate
 

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do or what we decided to investigate
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was to put a node on the
 

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was to put a node on the
on<00:23:05.360><c> the</c><00:23:05.520><c> sea</c><00:23:05.760><c> floor</c><00:23:06.840><c> and</c>

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on the sea floor and
 

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on the sea floor and
it<00:23:08.720><c> had</c><00:23:08.960><c> a</c><00:23:09.120><c> short-range</c><00:23:09.679><c> optical</c>

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it had a short-range optical
 

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it had a short-range optical
communications<00:23:10.960><c> link</c>

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communications link
 

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communications link
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and so what would happen is the
 

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and so what would happen is the
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underwater vehicle the robot would come
 

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underwater vehicle the robot would come
along

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along
 

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along
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you would begin a negotiation with the
 

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you would begin a negotiation with the
node

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node
 

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node
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using optical signaling and then the
 

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using optical signaling and then the
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device would upload all its data
 

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device would upload all its data
optically<00:23:24.159><c> to</c><00:23:24.240><c> the</c><00:23:24.400><c> robot</c>

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optically to the robot
 

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optically to the robot
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and then and then move on so the node
 

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and then and then move on so the node
didn't<00:23:28.480><c> have</c><00:23:28.640><c> to</c><00:23:28.799><c> actually</c><00:23:29.039><c> expend</c><00:23:29.440><c> very</c><00:23:29.600><c> much</c>

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didn't have to actually expend very much
 

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didn't have to actually expend very much
energy<00:23:30.159><c> it's</c><00:23:30.320><c> not</c><00:23:30.480><c> sending</c><00:23:30.799><c> acoustic</c><00:23:31.440><c> pulses</c>

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energy it's not sending acoustic pulses
 

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energy it's not sending acoustic pulses
over<00:23:32.080><c> huge</c><00:23:32.400><c> distances</c>

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over huge distances
 

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over huge distances
it's<00:23:33.360><c> sending</c><00:23:33.679><c> optical</c><00:23:34.080><c> pulses</c><00:23:34.480><c> over</c><00:23:34.720><c> quite</c><00:23:34.880><c> a</c>

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it's sending optical pulses over quite a
 

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it's sending optical pulses over quite a
short<00:23:35.280><c> distance</c><00:23:36.000><c> so</c><00:23:36.240><c> it's</c><00:23:36.320><c> very</c><00:23:36.559><c> energy</c>

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short distance so it's very energy
 

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short distance so it's very energy
efficient<00:23:37.200><c> for</c><00:23:37.360><c> the</c><00:23:37.520><c> node</c>

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efficient for the node
 

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efficient for the node
not<00:23:38.960><c> so</c><00:23:39.120><c> energy</c><00:23:39.440><c> efficient</c><00:23:39.760><c> for</c><00:23:39.840><c> the</c>

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not so energy efficient for the
 

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not so energy efficient for the
submarine<00:23:40.320><c> because</c><00:23:40.480><c> it</c><00:23:40.559><c> has</c><00:23:40.720><c> to</c><00:23:41.039><c> swim</c><00:23:41.360><c> around</c>

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submarine because it has to swim around
 

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submarine because it has to swim around
and<00:23:41.840><c> visit</c><00:23:42.080><c> all</c><00:23:42.240><c> the</c><00:23:42.320><c> guys</c><00:23:42.640><c> but</c>

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and visit all the guys but
 

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and visit all the guys but
but<00:23:43.279><c> it</c><00:23:43.360><c> comes</c><00:23:43.600><c> home</c><00:23:43.919><c> and</c><00:23:44.000><c> you</c><00:23:44.080><c> can</c><00:23:44.240><c> recharge</c>

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but it comes home and you can recharge
 

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but it comes home and you can recharge
it<00:23:45.360><c> so</c><00:23:45.840><c> it</c><00:23:46.000><c> was</c><00:23:46.159><c> an</c>

00:23:46.470 --> 00:23:46.480 align:start position:0%
it so it was an
 

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it so it was an
interesting<00:23:48.080><c> way</c><00:23:48.840><c> of</c>

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interesting way of
 

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interesting way of
exploring<00:23:51.120><c> some</c><00:23:51.360><c> sort</c><00:23:51.520><c> of</c><00:23:51.600><c> asymmetry</c><00:23:52.240><c> one</c><00:23:52.480><c> guy</c>

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exploring some sort of asymmetry one guy
 

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exploring some sort of asymmetry one guy
uh

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uh
 

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uh
takes<00:23:54.320><c> a</c><00:23:54.400><c> big</c><00:23:54.640><c> hit</c><00:23:54.960><c> on</c><00:23:55.120><c> his</c><00:23:55.279><c> energy</c>

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takes a big hit on his energy
 

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takes a big hit on his energy
expenditure<00:23:56.480><c> but</c>

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expenditure but
 

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expenditure but
he<00:23:57.360><c> comes</c><00:23:57.600><c> home</c><00:23:57.840><c> and</c><00:23:58.000><c> that's</c><00:23:58.159><c> actually</c><00:23:58.400><c> not</c>

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he comes home and that's actually not
 

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he comes home and that's actually not
too<00:23:58.799><c> problematic</c><00:23:59.520><c> where</c><00:23:59.679><c> the</c><00:23:59.760><c> guys</c><00:24:00.000><c> are</c><00:24:00.159><c> out</c>

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too problematic where the guys are out
 

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too problematic where the guys are out
in<00:24:00.400><c> the</c><00:24:00.480><c> field</c><00:24:00.720><c> for</c><00:24:00.799><c> a</c><00:24:00.880><c> long</c><00:24:01.120><c> time</c>

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in the field for a long time
 

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in the field for a long time
don't<00:24:01.840><c> spend</c><00:24:02.080><c> very</c><00:24:02.320><c> much</c><00:24:02.480><c> energy</c><00:24:02.880><c> at</c><00:24:03.039><c> all</c><00:24:03.679><c> so</c>

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don't spend very much energy at all so
 

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don't spend very much energy at all so
this<00:24:04.720><c> was</c><00:24:04.880><c> a</c><00:24:05.039><c> sort</c><00:24:05.200><c> of</c><00:24:05.360><c> interesting</c><00:24:05.760><c> bunch</c><00:24:06.000><c> of</c>

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this was a sort of interesting bunch of
 

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this was a sort of interesting bunch of
work<00:24:06.320><c> where</c><00:24:06.480><c> you've</c><00:24:06.720><c> got</c>

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work where you've got
 

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work where you've got
sensor<00:24:08.159><c> networks</c><00:24:08.720><c> which</c><00:24:08.960><c> has</c><00:24:09.039><c> got</c><00:24:09.200><c> its</c><00:24:09.360><c> own</c>

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sensor networks which has got its own
 

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sensor networks which has got its own
research<00:24:09.919><c> community</c><00:24:10.799><c> and</c>

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research community and
 

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research community and
robotics<00:24:11.919><c> which</c><00:24:12.159><c> got</c><00:24:12.320><c> its</c><00:24:12.480><c> own</c><00:24:12.640><c> research</c>

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robotics which got its own research
 

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robotics which got its own research
community<00:24:13.679><c> but</c><00:24:13.919><c> actually</c><00:24:14.240><c> with</c><00:24:14.400><c> these</c><00:24:14.640><c> two</c>

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community but actually with these two
 

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community but actually with these two
types<00:24:15.200><c> of</c><00:24:15.279><c> devices</c><00:24:15.679><c> together</c>

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types of devices together
 

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types of devices together
you<00:24:16.640><c> can</c><00:24:16.960><c> solve</c><00:24:18.320><c> problems</c><00:24:18.720><c> in</c><00:24:18.799><c> a</c><00:24:18.880><c> different</c>

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you can solve problems in a different
 

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you can solve problems in a different
way<00:24:19.440><c> than</c><00:24:19.600><c> using</c>

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way than using
 

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way than using
either<00:24:20.640><c> one</c><00:24:20.880><c> individually</c><00:24:22.080><c> so</c><00:24:22.320><c> it</c><00:24:22.480><c> was</c><00:24:22.640><c> a</c><00:24:23.279><c> an</c>

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either one individually so it was a an
 

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either one individually so it was a an
interest<00:24:23.840><c> for</c><00:24:24.080><c> quite</c><00:24:24.320><c> a</c><00:24:24.480><c> few</c><00:24:24.799><c> years</c>

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interest for quite a few years
 

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interest for quite a few years
looking<00:24:25.760><c> at</c><00:24:25.840><c> how</c><00:24:26.080><c> robots</c><00:24:26.640><c> and</c><00:24:26.880><c> sensor</c>

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looking at how robots and sensor
 

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looking at how robots and sensor
networks<00:24:27.600><c> could</c><00:24:27.760><c> cooperate</c>

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networks could cooperate
 

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networks could cooperate
and<00:24:29.440><c> also</c><00:24:29.919><c> in</c><00:24:30.400><c> this</c><00:24:30.640><c> work</c><00:24:30.880><c> with</c><00:24:30.960><c> daniella</c><00:24:31.440><c> we</c>

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and also in this work with daniella we
 

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and also in this work with daniella we
looked<00:24:31.760><c> at</c><00:24:31.840><c> how</c><00:24:32.000><c> robots</c><00:24:32.400><c> could</c>

00:24:33.269 --> 00:24:33.279 align:start position:0%
looked at how robots could
 

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looked at how robots could
actually<00:24:33.600><c> deploy</c><00:24:34.080><c> sensor</c><00:24:34.559><c> network</c><00:24:35.039><c> modes</c><00:24:35.520><c> on</c>

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actually deploy sensor network modes on
 

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actually deploy sensor network modes on
the<00:24:35.840><c> sea</c><00:24:36.080><c> floor</c>

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the sea floor
 

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the sea floor
pick<00:24:36.880><c> them</c><00:24:37.039><c> up</c><00:24:37.279><c> move</c><00:24:37.600><c> them</c><00:24:37.919><c> reprogram</c><00:24:38.720><c> them</c>

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pick them up move them reprogram them
 

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pick them up move them reprogram them
and<00:24:39.760><c> we</c><00:24:39.919><c> did</c><00:24:40.080><c> some</c><00:24:40.240><c> work</c><00:24:40.480><c> with</c>

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and we did some work with
 

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and we did some work with
a<00:24:41.120><c> helicopter</c><00:24:42.000><c> with</c><00:24:42.240><c> this</c><00:24:42.400><c> is</c><00:24:42.559><c> with</c><00:24:42.799><c> daniella</c>

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a helicopter with this is with daniella
 

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a helicopter with this is with daniella
and<00:24:43.360><c> with</c><00:24:43.520><c> gaurav</c><00:24:43.919><c> zakatma</c><00:24:44.480><c> at</c><00:24:44.559><c> usc</c>

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and with gaurav zakatma at usc
 

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and with gaurav zakatma at usc
using<00:24:45.919><c> helicopters</c><00:24:46.640><c> to</c><00:24:46.880><c> deploy</c><00:24:47.360><c> sensor</c>

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using helicopters to deploy sensor
 

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using helicopters to deploy sensor
networks<00:24:47.919><c> so</c><00:24:48.080><c> we</c><00:24:48.240><c> dropped</c><00:24:48.559><c> nodes</c><00:24:48.960><c> out</c><00:24:49.120><c> of</c><00:24:49.279><c> our</c>

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networks so we dropped nodes out of our
 

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networks so we dropped nodes out of our
uh<00:24:50.400><c> a</c><00:24:50.480><c> robot</c><00:24:50.880><c> helicopter</c><00:24:51.840><c> on</c><00:24:51.919><c> the</c><00:24:52.080><c> ground</c><00:24:52.640><c> we</c>

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uh a robot helicopter on the ground we
 

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uh a robot helicopter on the ground we
if<00:24:53.600><c> the</c><00:24:53.840><c> network</c><00:24:54.240><c> was</c><00:24:54.480><c> broken</c><00:24:54.880><c> and</c><00:24:54.960><c> we</c><00:24:55.039><c> could</c>

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if the network was broken and we could
 

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if the network was broken and we could
drop<00:24:55.440><c> extra</c><00:24:55.760><c> nodes</c><00:24:56.159><c> in</c><00:24:56.240><c> to</c><00:24:56.480><c> repair</c><00:24:56.880><c> it</c>

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drop extra nodes in to repair it
 

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drop extra nodes in to repair it
so<00:24:57.919><c> it</c><00:24:58.080><c> was</c><00:24:58.559><c> an</c><00:24:58.840><c> interesting</c><00:25:00.080><c> uh</c>

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so it was an interesting uh
 

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so it was an interesting uh
interesting<00:25:01.840><c> research</c><00:25:02.320><c> area</c><00:25:03.120><c> quite</c><00:25:03.360><c> sort</c><00:25:03.520><c> of</c>

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interesting research area quite sort of
 

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interesting research area quite sort of
different<00:25:03.919><c> to</c><00:25:04.080><c> anything</c><00:25:04.400><c> that</c><00:25:04.640><c> i</c>

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different to anything that i
 

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different to anything that i
i've<00:25:06.000><c> done</c><00:25:06.240><c> previously</c><00:25:06.720><c> in</c><00:25:06.799><c> my</c><00:25:06.960><c> career</c><00:25:08.400><c> so</c>

00:25:08.789 --> 00:25:08.799 align:start position:0%
i've done previously in my career so
 

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i've done previously in my career so
um<00:25:09.760><c> can</c><00:25:09.919><c> you</c><00:25:09.919><c> tell</c><00:25:10.159><c> me</c><00:25:10.240><c> a</c><00:25:10.320><c> little</c><00:25:10.480><c> bit</c><00:25:10.640><c> about</c>

00:25:10.870 --> 00:25:10.880 align:start position:0%
um can you tell me a little bit about
 

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um can you tell me a little bit about
your<00:25:11.440><c> sort</c><00:25:11.600><c> of</c><00:25:11.679><c> overall</c><00:25:12.080><c> collaborations</c><00:25:12.880><c> with</c>

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your sort of overall collaborations with
 

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your sort of overall collaborations with
daniella<00:25:13.679><c> and</c><00:25:13.760><c> guaran</c>

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daniella and guaran
 

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daniella and guaran
and<00:25:14.480><c> how</c><00:25:14.640><c> you</c><00:25:14.799><c> met</c><00:25:15.039><c> and</c><00:25:15.360><c> came</c><00:25:15.600><c> to</c><00:25:15.679><c> collaborate</c>

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and how you met and came to collaborate
 

00:25:17.279 --> 00:25:18.230 align:start position:0%
and how you met and came to collaborate
sure

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sure
 

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sure
i<00:25:18.559><c> think</c><00:25:18.799><c> i</c><00:25:19.039><c> first</c><00:25:19.679><c> met</c><00:25:20.400><c> daniella</c><00:25:21.039><c> i</c><00:25:21.200><c> think</c>

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i think i first met daniella i think
 

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i think i first met daniella i think
at<00:25:22.000><c> an</c><00:25:22.240><c> iser</c><00:25:23.279><c> that's</c><00:25:23.520><c> the</c><00:25:23.840><c> national</c><00:25:24.159><c> symposium</c>

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at an iser that's the national symposium
 

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at an iser that's the national symposium
in<00:25:24.799><c> experimental</c><00:25:25.279><c> robotics</c>

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in experimental robotics
 

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in experimental robotics
that<00:25:26.720><c> bruno</c><00:25:27.520><c> siciliano</c><00:25:28.320><c> organized</c>

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that bruno siciliano organized
 

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that bruno siciliano organized
uh<00:25:30.000><c> on</c><00:25:30.159><c> a</c><00:25:30.240><c> little</c><00:25:30.480><c> island</c><00:25:30.799><c> off</c><00:25:30.880><c> the</c><00:25:30.960><c> coast</c><00:25:31.200><c> of</c>

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uh on a little island off the coast of
 

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uh on a little island off the coast of
italy<00:25:32.240><c> uh</c>

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italy uh
 

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italy uh
that's<00:25:34.559><c> probably</c><00:25:34.960><c> not</c><00:25:35.200><c> true</c><00:25:35.360><c> actually</c><00:25:35.600><c> i</c>

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that's probably not true actually i
 

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that's probably not true actually i
think<00:25:35.840><c> i</c><00:25:36.080><c> met</c><00:25:36.320><c> her</c><00:25:36.799><c> first</c>

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think i met her first
 

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think i met her first
i<00:25:37.919><c> organized</c><00:25:38.400><c> an</c><00:25:38.640><c> earlier</c><00:25:38.960><c> version</c><00:25:39.279><c> of</c><00:25:39.440><c> that</c>

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i organized an earlier version of that
 

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i organized an earlier version of that
meeting<00:25:39.919><c> which</c><00:25:40.080><c> was</c><00:25:40.400><c> in</c><00:25:40.640><c> 1999</c><00:25:41.520><c> in</c><00:25:41.600><c> sydney</c>

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meeting which was in 1999 in sydney
 

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meeting which was in 1999 in sydney
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and i think daniella came to came to
 

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and i think daniella came to came to
that

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that
 

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that
uh<00:25:46.000><c> but</c><00:25:46.159><c> i</c><00:25:46.320><c> probably</c><00:25:46.559><c> got</c><00:25:46.720><c> to</c><00:25:46.799><c> know</c><00:25:47.039><c> her</c><00:25:47.120><c> better</c>

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uh but i probably got to know her better
 

00:25:47.360 --> 00:25:49.590 align:start position:0%
uh but i probably got to know her better
at<00:25:47.440><c> that</c><00:25:47.760><c> the</c><00:25:47.919><c> one</c><00:25:48.320><c> the</c><00:25:48.400><c> one</c><00:25:48.640><c> in</c><00:25:48.720><c> italy</c>

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at that the one the one in italy
 

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at that the one the one in italy
she<00:25:49.840><c> introduced</c><00:25:50.240><c> me</c><00:25:50.480><c> to</c><00:25:50.720><c> gorav</c><00:25:51.919><c> i</c><00:25:52.080><c> think</c><00:25:52.240><c> it</c>

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she introduced me to gorav i think it
 

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she introduced me to gorav i think it
was<00:25:52.480><c> at</c><00:25:52.640><c> an</c><00:25:52.799><c> iros</c><00:25:53.440><c> in</c>

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was at an iros in
 

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was at an iros in
in<00:25:54.400><c> switzerland</c><00:25:55.120><c> that</c><00:25:55.440><c> uh</c><00:25:55.919><c> the</c><00:25:56.240><c> roland</c><00:25:56.640><c> sigwa</c>

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in switzerland that uh the roland sigwa
 

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in switzerland that uh the roland sigwa
organized<00:25:58.559><c> and</c><00:25:59.039><c> uh</c>

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organized and uh
 

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organized and uh
yeah<00:26:00.720><c> i</c><00:26:00.799><c> think</c><00:26:01.120><c> just</c><00:26:01.440><c> sort</c><00:26:01.600><c> of</c><00:26:01.840><c> a</c><00:26:02.480><c> good</c><00:26:02.720><c> rapport</c>

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yeah i think just sort of a good rapport
 

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yeah i think just sort of a good rapport
with<00:26:03.600><c> with</c><00:26:03.919><c> both</c><00:26:04.159><c> of</c><00:26:04.320><c> them</c>

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with with both of them
 

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with with both of them
and<00:26:05.200><c> uh</c><00:26:05.919><c> sort</c><00:26:06.080><c> of</c><00:26:06.240><c> research</c><00:26:06.799><c> interests</c><00:26:07.679><c> meshed</c>

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and uh sort of research interests meshed
 

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and uh sort of research interests meshed
so

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so
 

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so
i've<00:26:10.080><c> had</c><00:26:10.240><c> some</c><00:26:10.400><c> of</c><00:26:10.559><c> gaurav's</c><00:26:11.039><c> students</c><00:26:11.440><c> and</c>

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i've had some of gaurav's students and
 

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i've had some of gaurav's students and
some<00:26:11.679><c> of</c><00:26:11.760><c> daniella</c><00:26:12.240><c> students</c><00:26:12.559><c> have</c><00:26:12.640><c> come</c><00:26:12.880><c> to</c>

00:26:13.029 --> 00:26:13.039 align:start position:0%
some of daniella students have come to
 

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some of daniella students have come to
visit<00:26:13.360><c> me</c>

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visit me
 

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visit me
in<00:26:14.559><c> australia</c><00:26:15.360><c> and</c><00:26:16.880><c> i</c>

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in australia and i
 

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in australia and i
i<00:26:18.400><c> don't</c><00:26:19.600><c> think</c><00:26:19.840><c> there's</c><00:26:20.080><c> there</c><00:26:20.240><c> hasn't</c><00:26:20.480><c> been</c>

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i don't think there's there hasn't been
 

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i don't think there's there hasn't been
much<00:26:20.799><c> reverse</c>

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much reverse
 

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much reverse
i<00:26:21.600><c> don't</c><00:26:21.679><c> know</c><00:26:21.760><c> if</c><00:26:21.840><c> there's</c><00:26:22.000><c> been</c><00:26:22.240><c> any</c><00:26:22.400><c> reverse</c>

00:26:22.870 --> 00:26:22.880 align:start position:0%
i don't know if there's been any reverse
 

00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:24.950 align:start position:0%
i don't know if there's been any reverse
traffic<00:26:23.600><c> but</c>

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traffic but
 

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traffic but
yeah<00:26:25.200><c> certainly</c><00:26:25.600><c> some</c><00:26:25.760><c> of</c><00:26:25.840><c> their</c><00:26:26.000><c> students</c>

00:26:26.310 --> 00:26:26.320 align:start position:0%
yeah certainly some of their students
 

00:26:26.320 --> 00:26:27.830 align:start position:0%
yeah certainly some of their students
have<00:26:26.400><c> come</c><00:26:26.559><c> to</c><00:26:26.640><c> visit</c><00:26:26.880><c> me</c><00:26:27.039><c> and</c><00:26:27.200><c> i've</c><00:26:27.440><c> certainly</c>

00:26:27.830 --> 00:26:27.840 align:start position:0%
have come to visit me and i've certainly
 

00:26:27.840 --> 00:26:29.750 align:start position:0%
have come to visit me and i've certainly
spent<00:26:28.159><c> time</c><00:26:28.480><c> at</c><00:26:28.559><c> each</c><00:26:28.720><c> of</c><00:26:28.799><c> their</c><00:26:29.039><c> labs</c><00:26:29.360><c> and</c>

00:26:29.750 --> 00:26:29.760 align:start position:0%
spent time at each of their labs and
 

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spent time at each of their labs and
you<00:26:29.840><c> know</c><00:26:30.320><c> collaborated</c><00:26:30.960><c> written</c><00:26:31.200><c> papers</c>

00:26:31.590 --> 00:26:31.600 align:start position:0%
you know collaborated written papers
 

00:26:31.600 --> 00:26:34.230 align:start position:0%
you know collaborated written papers
with<00:26:31.840><c> them</c><00:26:32.159><c> and</c><00:26:32.720><c> and</c><00:26:32.880><c> their</c><00:26:33.120><c> students</c>

00:26:34.230 --> 00:26:34.240 align:start position:0%
with them and and their students
 

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with them and and their students
have<00:26:34.320><c> there</c><00:26:34.480><c> been</c><00:26:34.640><c> any</c><00:26:34.880><c> other</c><00:26:35.120><c> important</c>

00:26:35.990 --> 00:26:36.000 align:start position:0%
have there been any other important
 

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have there been any other important
collaborations<00:26:36.720><c> in</c><00:26:36.799><c> your</c><00:26:36.960><c> career</c>

00:26:39.909 --> 00:26:39.919 align:start position:0%
 
 

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a<00:26:40.000><c> couple</c><00:26:40.240><c> of</c><00:26:40.400><c> others</c><00:26:41.039><c> uh</c><00:26:41.600><c> in</c><00:26:41.840><c> the</c><00:26:42.000><c> area</c><00:26:42.400><c> of</c>

00:26:42.630 --> 00:26:42.640 align:start position:0%
a couple of others uh in the area of
 

00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:44.789 align:start position:0%
a couple of others uh in the area of
this<00:26:42.880><c> vision-based</c><00:26:43.440><c> robot</c><00:26:43.840><c> control</c><00:26:44.400><c> it's</c><00:26:44.640><c> a</c>

00:26:44.789 --> 00:26:44.799 align:start position:0%
this vision-based robot control it's a
 

00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:47.269 align:start position:0%
this vision-based robot control it's a
topic<00:26:45.120><c> that's</c><00:26:45.360><c> also</c><00:26:45.600><c> called</c><00:26:45.760><c> visual</c><00:26:46.080><c> servoing</c>

00:26:47.269 --> 00:26:47.279 align:start position:0%
topic that's also called visual servoing
 

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topic that's also called visual servoing
surrounding<00:26:47.760><c> sort</c><00:26:47.919><c> of</c><00:26:48.080><c> a</c><00:26:48.240><c> strange</c><00:26:48.880><c> made-up</c>

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surrounding sort of a strange made-up
 

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surrounding sort of a strange made-up
word<00:26:50.159><c> but</c><00:26:50.400><c> anyway</c><00:26:50.640><c> it's</c><00:26:50.880><c> stuck</c>

00:26:51.430 --> 00:26:51.440 align:start position:0%
word but anyway it's stuck
 

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word but anyway it's stuck
uh<00:26:51.600><c> the</c><00:26:51.840><c> sessions</c><00:26:52.240><c> here</c><00:26:52.400><c> at</c><00:26:52.480><c> this</c><00:26:52.640><c> conference</c>

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uh the sessions here at this conference
 

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uh the sessions here at this conference
on<00:26:53.760><c> on</c><00:26:54.000><c> visual</c><00:26:54.320><c> servo</c>

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on on visual servo
 

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on on visual servo
so<00:26:56.480><c> i</c><00:26:58.640><c> when</c><00:26:58.799><c> i</c><00:26:58.880><c> was</c><00:26:59.039><c> at</c><00:26:59.039><c> the</c><00:26:59.200><c> grassland</c><00:26:59.679><c> i</c><00:27:00.080><c> met</c>

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so i when i was at the grassland i met
 

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so i when i was at the grassland i met
uh<00:27:00.880><c> greg</c><00:27:01.200><c> hagar</c><00:27:01.679><c> he</c><00:27:01.840><c> was</c><00:27:02.080><c> a</c><00:27:02.240><c> student</c><00:27:02.640><c> at</c>

00:27:02.870 --> 00:27:02.880 align:start position:0%
uh greg hagar he was a student at
 

00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:03.830 align:start position:0%
uh greg hagar he was a student at
grassland<00:27:03.440><c> or</c><00:27:03.520><c> just</c>

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grassland or just
 

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grassland or just
finishing<00:27:04.240><c> student</c><00:27:04.559><c> at</c><00:27:04.640><c> grass</c><00:27:04.880><c> flat</c><00:27:05.120><c> when</c>

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finishing student at grass flat when
 

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finishing student at grass flat when
when<00:27:05.600><c> i</c><00:27:05.679><c> was</c><00:27:05.919><c> there</c><00:27:06.799><c> so</c><00:27:07.039><c> around</c>

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when i was there so around
 

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when i was there so around
[Music]

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[Music]
 

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[Music]
1994<00:27:11.120><c> or</c><00:27:11.279><c> something</c><00:27:11.520><c> like</c><00:27:11.679><c> that</c><00:27:12.000><c> greg</c>

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1994 or something like that greg
 

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1994 or something like that greg
pinged<00:27:13.120><c> me</c><00:27:13.279><c> out</c><00:27:13.440><c> of</c><00:27:13.520><c> the</c><00:27:13.679><c> blue</c><00:27:14.559><c> to</c><00:27:15.039><c> help</c>

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pinged me out of the blue to help
 

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pinged me out of the blue to help
organize<00:27:15.919><c> the</c><00:27:16.080><c> workshop</c>

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organize the workshop
 

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organize the workshop
on<00:27:17.440><c> visual</c><00:27:17.760><c> server</c><00:27:18.159><c> and</c><00:27:18.240><c> control</c><00:27:18.960><c> because</c>

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on visual server and control because
 

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on visual server and control because
that<00:27:19.520><c> was</c><00:27:19.760><c> an</c><00:27:20.000><c> area</c><00:27:20.320><c> of</c><00:27:20.480><c> interest</c><00:27:20.880><c> of</c><00:27:21.039><c> his</c><00:27:21.360><c> as</c>

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that was an area of interest of his as
 

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that was an area of interest of his as
well

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well
 

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well
and<00:27:23.120><c> a</c><00:27:23.840><c> guy</c><00:27:24.080><c> that</c><00:27:24.320><c> greg</c><00:27:24.640><c> knew</c><00:27:25.120><c> uh</c><00:27:25.360><c> seth</c>

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and a guy that greg knew uh seth
 

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and a guy that greg knew uh seth
hutchinson

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hutchinson
 

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hutchinson
also<00:27:27.279><c> so</c><00:27:28.000><c> uh</c><00:27:28.640><c> greg</c><00:27:29.039><c> seth</c><00:27:29.360><c> and</c><00:27:29.520><c> i</c><00:27:29.840><c> organized</c><00:27:30.480><c> a</c>

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also so uh greg seth and i organized a
 

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also so uh greg seth and i organized a
couple<00:27:30.960><c> of</c>

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couple of
 

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couple of
uh<00:27:31.600><c> equal</c><00:27:32.000><c> workshops</c><00:27:33.440><c> on</c><00:27:33.679><c> visual</c><00:27:34.000><c> servering</c>

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uh equal workshops on visual servering
 

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uh equal workshops on visual servering
and<00:27:35.760><c> then</c><00:27:36.080><c> we</c><00:27:37.440><c> and</c><00:27:37.679><c> we</c><00:27:37.919><c> then</c><00:27:38.159><c> actually</c><00:27:38.399><c> it</c><00:27:38.480><c> was</c>

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and then we and we then actually it was
 

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and then we and we then actually it was
greg

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greg
 

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greg
and<00:27:39.520><c> seth</c><00:27:40.399><c> organized</c><00:27:41.120><c> a</c><00:27:41.279><c> special</c>

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and seth organized a special
 

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and seth organized a special
issue<00:27:42.640><c> of</c><00:27:43.279><c> ieee</c><00:27:43.840><c> transactions</c>

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issue of ieee transactions
 

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issue of ieee transactions
on<00:27:46.080><c> visual</c><00:27:46.399><c> servering</c><00:27:47.679><c> and</c><00:27:48.000><c> for</c><00:27:48.159><c> that</c><00:27:48.399><c> they</c>

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on visual servering and for that they
 

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on visual servering and for that they
wrote

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wrote
 

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wrote
a<00:27:51.200><c> uh</c><00:27:51.760><c> a</c><00:27:52.000><c> paper</c>

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a uh a paper
 

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a uh a paper
which<00:27:52.960><c> basically</c><00:27:53.520><c> was</c><00:27:53.760><c> a</c><00:27:54.240><c> a</c><00:27:54.320><c> tutorial</c><00:27:55.440><c> uh</c>

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which basically was a a tutorial uh
 

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which basically was a a tutorial uh
on<00:27:55.840><c> the</c><00:27:56.000><c> field</c><00:27:56.480><c> and</c><00:27:56.640><c> so</c><00:27:56.880><c> they'd</c><00:27:57.120><c> sort</c><00:27:57.279><c> of</c>

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on the field and so they'd sort of
 

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on the field and so they'd sort of
setting<00:27:58.240><c> up</c><00:27:58.320><c> to</c><00:27:58.480><c> write</c><00:27:58.720><c> that</c>

00:27:59.110 --> 00:27:59.120 align:start position:0%
setting up to write that
 

00:27:59.120 --> 00:28:02.149 align:start position:0%
setting up to write that
and<00:27:59.200><c> then</c><00:27:59.679><c> they</c><00:28:00.000><c> invited</c><00:28:00.399><c> me</c><00:28:00.559><c> to</c><00:28:00.799><c> join</c><00:28:01.919><c> that</c>

00:28:02.149 --> 00:28:02.159 align:start position:0%
and then they invited me to join that
 

00:28:02.159 --> 00:28:03.590 align:start position:0%
and then they invited me to join that
paper

00:28:03.590 --> 00:28:03.600 align:start position:0%
paper
 

00:28:03.600 --> 00:28:05.190 align:start position:0%
paper
that's<00:28:03.919><c> probably</c><00:28:04.159><c> the</c><00:28:04.240><c> most</c><00:28:04.480><c> famous</c><00:28:04.880><c> paper</c>

00:28:05.190 --> 00:28:05.200 align:start position:0%
that's probably the most famous paper
 

00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:07.110 align:start position:0%
that's probably the most famous paper
that<00:28:05.360><c> i've</c><00:28:05.600><c> ever</c>

00:28:07.110 --> 00:28:07.120 align:start position:0%
that i've ever
 

00:28:07.120 --> 00:28:08.630 align:start position:0%
that i've ever
is<00:28:07.360><c> definitely</c><00:28:07.679><c> the</c><00:28:07.760><c> most</c><00:28:08.000><c> famous</c><00:28:08.320><c> paper</c><00:28:08.559><c> that</c>

00:28:08.630 --> 00:28:08.640 align:start position:0%
is definitely the most famous paper that
 

00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:09.909 align:start position:0%
is definitely the most famous paper that
i've<00:28:08.799><c> written</c><00:28:09.039><c> it's</c><00:28:09.200><c> got</c><00:28:09.360><c> a</c><00:28:09.440><c> ridiculous</c>

00:28:09.909 --> 00:28:09.919 align:start position:0%
i've written it's got a ridiculous
 

00:28:09.919 --> 00:28:11.430 align:start position:0%
i've written it's got a ridiculous
number<00:28:10.159><c> of</c><00:28:10.240><c> cetaceans</c>

00:28:11.430 --> 00:28:11.440 align:start position:0%
number of cetaceans
 

00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:15.750 align:start position:0%
number of cetaceans
so<00:28:11.600><c> it's</c><00:28:12.399><c> hutchinson</c><00:28:12.960><c> hager</c><00:28:13.279><c> and</c><00:28:13.440><c> cork</c><00:28:13.679><c> 96</c>

00:28:15.750 --> 00:28:15.760 align:start position:0%
so it's hutchinson hager and cork 96
 

00:28:15.760 --> 00:28:19.110 align:start position:0%
so it's hutchinson hager and cork 96
and<00:28:15.919><c> it's</c><00:28:16.240><c> kind</c><00:28:16.399><c> of</c><00:28:17.039><c> often</c><00:28:18.000><c> cited</c><00:28:18.480><c> paper</c>

00:28:19.110 --> 00:28:19.120 align:start position:0%
and it's kind of often cited paper
 

00:28:19.120 --> 00:28:21.909 align:start position:0%
and it's kind of often cited paper
in<00:28:19.520><c> this</c><00:28:19.760><c> area</c><00:28:20.080><c> of</c><00:28:20.640><c> vision</c><00:28:21.120><c> based</c><00:28:21.360><c> control</c><00:28:21.840><c> or</c>

00:28:21.909 --> 00:28:21.919 align:start position:0%
in this area of vision based control or
 

00:28:21.919 --> 00:28:23.750 align:start position:0%
in this area of vision based control or
visual<00:28:22.240><c> servoing</c>

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visual servoing
 

00:28:23.760 --> 00:28:27.669 align:start position:0%
visual servoing
so<00:28:25.520><c> so</c><00:28:25.679><c> that</c><00:28:26.320><c> that</c><00:28:26.480><c> was</c><00:28:26.720><c> a</c><00:28:26.880><c> pretty</c>

00:28:27.669 --> 00:28:27.679 align:start position:0%
so so that that was a pretty
 

00:28:27.679 --> 00:28:31.430 align:start position:0%
so so that that was a pretty
productive<00:28:29.360><c> relationship</c><00:28:30.080><c> there</c><00:28:30.640><c> i</c><00:28:30.880><c> spent</c><00:28:31.200><c> a</c>

00:28:31.430 --> 00:28:31.440 align:start position:0%
productive relationship there i spent a
 

00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:33.590 align:start position:0%
productive relationship there i spent a
sabbatical<00:28:32.399><c> at</c><00:28:32.640><c> university</c><00:28:33.039><c> of</c><00:28:33.200><c> illinois</c>

00:28:33.590 --> 00:28:33.600 align:start position:0%
sabbatical at university of illinois
 

00:28:33.600 --> 00:28:35.909 align:start position:0%
sabbatical at university of illinois
which<00:28:33.760><c> is</c><00:28:33.840><c> where</c><00:28:34.080><c> seth</c><00:28:34.320><c> hutchinson's</c><00:28:35.039><c> based</c>

00:28:35.909 --> 00:28:35.919 align:start position:0%
which is where seth hutchinson's based
 

00:28:35.919 --> 00:28:40.230 align:start position:0%
which is where seth hutchinson's based
uh<00:28:36.399><c> in</c><00:28:36.919><c> 1999</c><00:28:38.320><c> so</c><00:28:38.559><c> sort</c><00:28:38.720><c> of</c><00:28:38.799><c> ten</c><00:28:39.039><c> years</c><00:28:39.360><c> after</c>

00:28:40.230 --> 00:28:40.240 align:start position:0%
uh in 1999 so sort of ten years after
 

00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:43.029 align:start position:0%
uh in 1999 so sort of ten years after
the<00:28:40.880><c> the</c><00:28:40.960><c> grass</c><00:28:41.279><c> flab</c><00:28:41.600><c> trip</c><00:28:42.480><c> i</c><00:28:42.720><c> spent</c><00:28:42.880><c> some</c>

00:28:43.029 --> 00:28:43.039 align:start position:0%
the the grass flab trip i spent some
 

00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:44.310 align:start position:0%
the the grass flab trip i spent some
time<00:28:43.279><c> working</c><00:28:43.679><c> with</c><00:28:43.919><c> seth</c>

00:28:44.310 --> 00:28:44.320 align:start position:0%
time working with seth
 

00:28:44.320 --> 00:28:47.750 align:start position:0%
time working with seth
and<00:28:44.480><c> with</c><00:28:44.720><c> mark</c><00:28:45.039><c> spong</c><00:28:46.080><c> there</c><00:28:46.880><c> and</c>

00:28:47.750 --> 00:28:47.760 align:start position:0%
and with mark spong there and
 

00:28:47.760 --> 00:28:49.990 align:start position:0%
and with mark spong there and
did<00:28:48.000><c> a</c><00:28:48.080><c> bit</c><00:28:48.240><c> more</c><00:28:48.559><c> visual</c><00:28:48.880><c> servoing</c><00:28:49.440><c> stuff</c><00:28:49.840><c> and</c>

00:28:49.990 --> 00:28:50.000 align:start position:0%
did a bit more visual servoing stuff and
 

00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:51.029 align:start position:0%
did a bit more visual servoing stuff and
so<00:28:50.480><c> another</c>

00:28:51.029 --> 00:28:51.039 align:start position:0%
so another
 

00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:53.669 align:start position:0%
so another
another<00:28:51.679><c> quite</c><00:28:52.000><c> well-known</c><00:28:52.399><c> paper</c><00:28:52.720><c> with</c><00:28:52.960><c> seth</c>

00:28:53.669 --> 00:28:53.679 align:start position:0%
another quite well-known paper with seth
 

00:28:53.679 --> 00:28:55.029 align:start position:0%
another quite well-known paper with seth
uh<00:28:54.000><c> came</c><00:28:54.320><c> out</c><00:28:54.559><c> of</c>

00:28:55.029 --> 00:28:55.039 align:start position:0%
uh came out of
 

00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:58.630 align:start position:0%
uh came out of
out<00:28:55.279><c> of</c><00:28:55.360><c> that</c><00:28:55.600><c> visit</c><00:28:57.200><c> i've</c><00:28:57.520><c> got</c><00:28:57.679><c> a</c>

00:28:58.630 --> 00:28:58.640 align:start position:0%
out of that visit i've got a
 

00:28:58.640 --> 00:29:00.470 align:start position:0%
out of that visit i've got a
a<00:28:58.799><c> colleague</c><00:28:59.600><c> at</c><00:28:59.760><c> the</c><00:28:59.840><c> australian</c><00:29:00.159><c> national</c>

00:29:00.470 --> 00:29:00.480 align:start position:0%
a colleague at the australian national
 

00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:02.230 align:start position:0%
a colleague at the australian national
university<00:29:00.960><c> guy</c><00:29:01.200><c> called</c><00:29:01.440><c> rob</c><00:29:01.679><c> marney</c>

00:29:02.230 --> 00:29:02.240 align:start position:0%
university guy called rob marney
 

00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:04.710 align:start position:0%
university guy called rob marney
who's<00:29:02.559><c> a</c><00:29:02.799><c> another</c><00:29:03.039><c> control</c><00:29:03.440><c> system</c><00:29:03.840><c> guy</c><00:29:04.399><c> also</c>

00:29:04.710 --> 00:29:04.720 align:start position:0%
who's a another control system guy also
 

00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:06.470 align:start position:0%
who's a another control system guy also
interested<00:29:05.120><c> in</c><00:29:05.200><c> visual</c><00:29:05.600><c> servoing</c>

00:29:06.470 --> 00:29:06.480 align:start position:0%
interested in visual servoing
 

00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:08.230 align:start position:0%
interested in visual servoing
so<00:29:06.640><c> i've</c><00:29:06.880><c> done</c><00:29:07.200><c> quite</c><00:29:07.440><c> a</c><00:29:07.520><c> bit</c><00:29:07.679><c> of</c><00:29:07.760><c> work</c><00:29:08.000><c> with</c>

00:29:08.230 --> 00:29:08.240 align:start position:0%
so i've done quite a bit of work with
 

00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:09.750 align:start position:0%
so i've done quite a bit of work with
rob

00:29:09.750 --> 00:29:09.760 align:start position:0%
rob
 

00:29:09.760 --> 00:29:11.110 align:start position:0%
rob
he<00:29:09.919><c> and</c><00:29:10.080><c> i</c><00:29:10.159><c> have</c><00:29:10.240><c> got</c><00:29:10.480><c> sort</c><00:29:10.640><c> of</c><00:29:10.640><c> a</c><00:29:10.720><c> mutual</c>

00:29:11.110 --> 00:29:11.120 align:start position:0%
he and i have got sort of a mutual
 

00:29:11.120 --> 00:29:12.789 align:start position:0%
he and i have got sort of a mutual
friend<00:29:11.440><c> francois</c><00:29:12.000><c> schulmet</c>

00:29:12.789 --> 00:29:12.799 align:start position:0%
friend francois schulmet
 

00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:15.909 align:start position:0%
friend francois schulmet
who's<00:29:13.520><c> from</c><00:29:13.919><c> uh</c><00:29:15.679><c> an</c>

00:29:15.909 --> 00:29:15.919 align:start position:0%
who's from uh an
 

00:29:15.919 --> 00:29:19.190 align:start position:0%
who's from uh an
inria<00:29:16.399><c> lab</c><00:29:16.880><c> at</c><00:29:17.120><c> ren</c><00:29:17.679><c> in</c><00:29:17.919><c> uh</c><00:29:18.159><c> in</c><00:29:18.320><c> france</c>

00:29:19.190 --> 00:29:19.200 align:start position:0%
inria lab at ren in uh in france
 

00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:21.750 align:start position:0%
inria lab at ren in uh in france
and<00:29:19.440><c> so</c><00:29:20.320><c> rob</c><00:29:20.640><c> and</c><00:29:20.799><c> francois</c><00:29:21.360><c> and</c><00:29:21.520><c> i</c><00:29:21.679><c> have</c>

00:29:21.750 --> 00:29:21.760 align:start position:0%
and so rob and francois and i have
 

00:29:21.760 --> 00:29:22.389 align:start position:0%
and so rob and francois and i have
written

00:29:22.389 --> 00:29:22.399 align:start position:0%
written
 

00:29:22.399 --> 00:29:24.389 align:start position:0%
written
francois<00:29:23.120><c> and</c><00:29:23.360><c> seth</c><00:29:23.679><c> and</c><00:29:23.840><c> i</c><00:29:24.000><c> have</c><00:29:24.159><c> written</c>

00:29:24.389 --> 00:29:24.399 align:start position:0%
francois and seth and i have written
 

00:29:24.399 --> 00:29:26.710 align:start position:0%
francois and seth and i have written
papers<00:29:24.960><c> so</c><00:29:25.360><c> there's</c><00:29:25.600><c> many</c><00:29:25.919><c> combinations</c><00:29:26.640><c> of</c>

00:29:26.710 --> 00:29:26.720 align:start position:0%
papers so there's many combinations of
 

00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:27.350 align:start position:0%
papers so there's many combinations of
these

00:29:27.350 --> 00:29:27.360 align:start position:0%
these
 

00:29:27.360 --> 00:29:29.590 align:start position:0%
these
uh<00:29:27.679><c> people</c><00:29:28.000><c> active</c><00:29:28.399><c> in</c><00:29:28.880><c> in</c><00:29:29.120><c> vision-based</c>

00:29:29.590 --> 00:29:29.600 align:start position:0%
uh people active in in vision-based
 

00:29:29.600 --> 00:29:31.990 align:start position:0%
uh people active in in vision-based
control

00:29:31.990 --> 00:29:32.000 align:start position:0%
control
 

00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:35.669 align:start position:0%
control
great<00:29:34.480><c> so</c><00:29:34.640><c> how</c><00:29:34.799><c> did</c><00:29:34.960><c> you</c><00:29:35.200><c> end</c><00:29:35.360><c> up</c><00:29:35.520><c> at</c>

00:29:35.669 --> 00:29:35.679 align:start position:0%
great so how did you end up at
 

00:29:35.679 --> 00:29:38.830 align:start position:0%
great so how did you end up at
queensland<00:29:36.240><c> university</c>

00:29:38.830 --> 00:29:38.840 align:start position:0%
queensland university
 

00:29:38.840 --> 00:29:42.789 align:start position:0%
queensland university
so<00:29:40.080><c> the</c><00:29:41.440><c> towards</c><00:29:41.919><c> the</c>

00:29:42.789 --> 00:29:42.799 align:start position:0%
so the towards the
 

00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:46.230 align:start position:0%
so the towards the
end<00:29:43.120><c> of</c><00:29:43.720><c> 2008</c><00:29:45.440><c> uh</c>

00:29:46.230 --> 00:29:46.240 align:start position:0%
end of 2008 uh
 

00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:49.669 align:start position:0%
end of 2008 uh
i<00:29:46.559><c> was</c><00:29:47.840><c> frustrated</c><00:29:48.480><c> for</c><00:29:48.799><c> whatever</c><00:29:49.200><c> reason</c>

00:29:49.669 --> 00:29:49.679 align:start position:0%
i was frustrated for whatever reason
 

00:29:49.679 --> 00:29:50.230 align:start position:0%
i was frustrated for whatever reason
with

00:29:50.230 --> 00:29:50.240 align:start position:0%
with
 

00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:54.630 align:start position:0%
with
uh<00:29:50.480><c> the</c><00:29:50.720><c> place</c><00:29:51.039><c> i'd</c><00:29:51.200><c> been</c><00:29:51.440><c> at</c><00:29:52.159><c> uh</c><00:29:52.799><c> i</c><00:29:53.039><c> think</c>

00:29:54.630 --> 00:29:54.640 align:start position:0%
uh the place i'd been at uh i think
 

00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:57.909 align:start position:0%
uh the place i'd been at uh i think
it<00:29:54.880><c> was</c><00:29:56.320><c> trying</c><00:29:56.559><c> to</c><00:29:56.559><c> get</c><00:29:56.960><c> the</c><00:29:57.200><c> timing</c><00:29:57.600><c> of</c><00:29:57.679><c> this</c>

00:29:57.909 --> 00:29:57.919 align:start position:0%
it was trying to get the timing of this
 

00:29:57.919 --> 00:29:59.590 align:start position:0%
it was trying to get the timing of this
right<00:29:58.320><c> but</c>

00:29:59.590 --> 00:29:59.600 align:start position:0%
right but
 

00:29:59.600 --> 00:30:03.190 align:start position:0%
right but
i<00:29:59.679><c> think</c><00:30:00.000><c> i</c><00:30:00.240><c> turned</c><00:30:00.880><c> 50</c><00:30:01.440><c> in</c><00:30:01.640><c> 2008</c>

00:30:03.190 --> 00:30:03.200 align:start position:0%
i think i turned 50 in 2008
 

00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:05.029 align:start position:0%
i think i turned 50 in 2008
and<00:30:03.840><c> i</c><00:30:04.000><c> also</c><00:30:04.240><c> got</c><00:30:04.399><c> a</c><00:30:04.480><c> letter</c><00:30:04.720><c> from</c><00:30:04.960><c> the</c>

00:30:05.029 --> 00:30:05.039 align:start position:0%
and i also got a letter from the
 

00:30:05.039 --> 00:30:06.230 align:start position:0%
and i also got a letter from the
management<00:30:05.440><c> of</c><00:30:05.600><c> csiro</c><00:30:06.000><c> saying</c>

00:30:06.230 --> 00:30:06.240 align:start position:0%
management of csiro saying
 

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management of csiro saying
congratulations<00:30:07.039><c> on</c><00:30:07.200><c> 25</c><00:30:07.679><c> years</c>

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congratulations on 25 years
 

00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:10.870 align:start position:0%
congratulations on 25 years
of<00:30:08.159><c> service</c><00:30:09.120><c> and</c><00:30:09.279><c> i</c><00:30:09.440><c> thought</c><00:30:09.679><c> whoa</c><00:30:10.240><c> bad</c><00:30:10.559><c> set</c><00:30:10.799><c> of</c>

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of service and i thought whoa bad set of
 

00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:12.789 align:start position:0%
of service and i thought whoa bad set of
numbers

00:30:12.789 --> 00:30:12.799 align:start position:0%
numbers
 

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numbers
i<00:30:13.039><c> spent</c><00:30:13.360><c> half</c><00:30:13.600><c> my</c><00:30:13.840><c> life</c><00:30:14.159><c> working</c><00:30:14.559><c> here</c><00:30:15.200><c> and</c><00:30:15.440><c> i</c>

00:30:15.510 --> 00:30:15.520 align:start position:0%
i spent half my life working here and i
 

00:30:15.520 --> 00:30:16.070 align:start position:0%
i spent half my life working here and i
published

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published
 

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published
so<00:30:16.240><c> i</c><00:30:16.399><c> think</c><00:30:16.559><c> it</c><00:30:16.720><c> was</c><00:30:16.880><c> a</c><00:30:16.960><c> bit</c><00:30:17.120><c> of</c><00:30:17.200><c> that</c><00:30:17.520><c> it</c><00:30:17.520><c> was</c><00:30:17.679><c> a</c>

00:30:17.750 --> 00:30:17.760 align:start position:0%
so i think it was a bit of that it was a
 

00:30:17.760 --> 00:30:19.430 align:start position:0%
so i think it was a bit of that it was a
bit<00:30:18.000><c> of</c><00:30:18.080><c> a</c><00:30:18.240><c> bit</c><00:30:18.399><c> of</c><00:30:18.559><c> frustration</c><00:30:19.120><c> with</c><00:30:19.279><c> the</c>

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bit of a bit of frustration with the
 

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bit of a bit of frustration with the
place<00:30:19.840><c> and</c>

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place and
 

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place and
just<00:30:21.279><c> the</c><00:30:21.440><c> phone</c><00:30:21.679><c> call</c><00:30:22.000><c> out</c><00:30:22.159><c> of</c><00:30:22.240><c> the</c><00:30:22.320><c> blue</c><00:30:22.720><c> one</c>

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just the phone call out of the blue one
 

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just the phone call out of the blue one
afternoon<00:30:23.600><c> from</c>

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afternoon from
 

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afternoon from
from<00:30:24.799><c> somebody</c><00:30:25.200><c> i</c><00:30:25.360><c> knew</c><00:30:25.520><c> a</c><00:30:25.679><c> qut</c><00:30:26.640><c> saying</c><00:30:26.880><c> would</c>

00:30:27.029 --> 00:30:27.039 align:start position:0%
from somebody i knew a qut saying would
 

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from somebody i knew a qut saying would
you<00:30:27.200><c> consider</c><00:30:27.520><c> coming</c><00:30:27.919><c> so</c><00:30:28.080><c> i</c><00:30:28.159><c> thought</c><00:30:28.320><c> yeah</c><00:30:28.559><c> it</c>

00:30:28.789 --> 00:30:28.799 align:start position:0%
you consider coming so i thought yeah it
 

00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:30.070 align:start position:0%
you consider coming so i thought yeah it
sounds<00:30:29.039><c> a</c><00:30:29.039><c> bit</c><00:30:29.200><c> interesting</c><00:30:29.600><c> so</c><00:30:29.760><c> i</c><00:30:29.840><c> did</c><00:30:30.000><c> an</c>

00:30:30.070 --> 00:30:30.080 align:start position:0%
sounds a bit interesting so i did an
 

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sounds a bit interesting so i did an
interview<00:30:31.440><c> and</c>

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interview and
 

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interview and
offered<00:30:33.200><c> a</c><00:30:33.279><c> position</c><00:30:33.840><c> professor</c><00:30:34.320><c> that</c><00:30:34.480><c> was</c>

00:30:34.710 --> 00:30:34.720 align:start position:0%
offered a position professor that was
 

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offered a position professor that was
pretty<00:30:34.960><c> cool</c><00:30:35.440><c> i</c><00:30:35.679><c> think</c><00:30:35.840><c> i</c><00:30:35.919><c> probably</c><00:30:36.080><c> always</c>

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pretty cool i think i probably always
 

00:30:36.320 --> 00:30:38.070 align:start position:0%
pretty cool i think i probably always
figured<00:30:36.559><c> one</c><00:30:36.720><c> day</c><00:30:36.880><c> i</c><00:30:36.880><c> was</c><00:30:37.120><c> going</c><00:30:37.200><c> to</c><00:30:37.279><c> be</c>

00:30:38.070 --> 00:30:38.080 align:start position:0%
figured one day i was going to be
 

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figured one day i was going to be
become<00:30:38.399><c> an</c><00:30:38.480><c> academic</c><00:30:38.960><c> or</c><00:30:39.120><c> professor</c><00:30:40.399><c> and</c><00:30:40.799><c> but</c>

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become an academic or professor and but
 

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become an academic or professor and but
it<00:30:41.279><c> took</c><00:30:41.520><c> a</c><00:30:41.840><c> while</c><00:30:42.080><c> to</c><00:30:42.320><c> actually</c>

00:30:42.870 --> 00:30:42.880 align:start position:0%
it took a while to actually
 

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it took a while to actually
happen<00:30:43.200><c> so</c><00:30:43.360><c> i</c><00:30:43.440><c> think</c><00:30:43.600><c> that</c><00:30:44.000><c> interview</c><00:30:44.399><c> was</c>

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happen so i think that interview was
 

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happen so i think that interview was
around<00:30:44.960><c> 2008</c>

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around 2008
 

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around 2008
i<00:30:47.360><c> had</c><00:30:47.520><c> a</c><00:30:47.600><c> lot</c><00:30:47.760><c> of</c><00:30:47.840><c> holiday</c><00:30:48.240><c> built</c><00:30:48.640><c> up</c><00:30:49.279><c> and</c>

00:30:50.310 --> 00:30:50.320 align:start position:0%
i had a lot of holiday built up and
 

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i had a lot of holiday built up and
so<00:30:50.480><c> i</c><00:30:50.559><c> thought</c><00:30:50.880><c> i</c><00:30:50.960><c> should</c><00:30:51.120><c> take</c><00:30:51.279><c> the</c><00:30:51.360><c> holiday</c>

00:30:51.750 --> 00:30:51.760 align:start position:0%
so i thought i should take the holiday
 

00:30:51.760 --> 00:30:53.669 align:start position:0%
so i thought i should take the holiday
so<00:30:52.039><c> 2009</c>

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so 2009
 

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so 2009
i<00:30:53.840><c> spent</c><00:30:54.080><c> a</c><00:30:54.159><c> lot</c><00:30:54.320><c> of</c><00:30:54.480><c> time</c><00:30:56.080><c> on</c><00:30:56.240><c> holiday</c>

00:30:57.269 --> 00:30:57.279 align:start position:0%
i spent a lot of time on holiday
 

00:30:57.279 --> 00:31:00.950 align:start position:0%
i spent a lot of time on holiday
and<00:30:59.600><c> that</c><00:30:59.760><c> was</c><00:31:00.000><c> when</c><00:31:00.159><c> i</c><00:31:00.320><c> started</c><00:31:00.640><c> i</c><00:31:00.720><c> started</c>

00:31:00.950 --> 00:31:00.960 align:start position:0%
and that was when i started i started
 

00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:01.830 align:start position:0%
and that was when i started i started
writing<00:31:01.200><c> a</c><00:31:01.360><c> book</c>

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writing a book
 

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writing a book
so<00:31:02.000><c> yeah</c><00:31:02.240><c> that</c><00:31:02.399><c> happened</c><00:31:02.799><c> that</c><00:31:02.960><c> happened</c><00:31:03.200><c> that</c>

00:31:03.430 --> 00:31:03.440 align:start position:0%
so yeah that happened that happened that
 

00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:04.870 align:start position:0%
so yeah that happened that happened that
year<00:31:04.000><c> so</c><00:31:04.320><c> spent</c>

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year so spent
 

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year so spent
three<00:31:05.120><c> months</c><00:31:05.600><c> in</c><00:31:05.840><c> paris</c><00:31:06.960><c> uh</c><00:31:07.360><c> living</c><00:31:07.600><c> a</c>

00:31:07.750 --> 00:31:07.760 align:start position:0%
three months in paris uh living a
 

00:31:07.760 --> 00:31:10.470 align:start position:0%
three months in paris uh living a
writerly<00:31:08.159><c> existence</c><00:31:08.720><c> just</c><00:31:08.880><c> me</c><00:31:09.039><c> and</c><00:31:09.120><c> my</c><00:31:09.279><c> wife</c>

00:31:10.470 --> 00:31:10.480 align:start position:0%
writerly existence just me and my wife
 

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writerly existence just me and my wife
in<00:31:10.640><c> a</c><00:31:10.720><c> little</c><00:31:11.039><c> tiny</c><00:31:11.360><c> apartment</c><00:31:12.080><c> and</c><00:31:12.240><c> you</c><00:31:12.320><c> know</c>

00:31:12.389 --> 00:31:12.399 align:start position:0%
in a little tiny apartment and you know
 

00:31:12.399 --> 00:31:14.710 align:start position:0%
in a little tiny apartment and you know
i<00:31:12.559><c> started</c><00:31:12.960><c> started</c><00:31:13.279><c> writing</c><00:31:13.600><c> a</c><00:31:13.679><c> book</c>

00:31:14.710 --> 00:31:14.720 align:start position:0%
i started started writing a book
 

00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:16.549 align:start position:0%
i started started writing a book
and<00:31:14.880><c> after</c><00:31:15.039><c> that</c><00:31:15.279><c> spent</c><00:31:15.600><c> a</c><00:31:16.000><c> few</c><00:31:16.159><c> months</c><00:31:16.399><c> in</c>

00:31:16.549 --> 00:31:16.559 align:start position:0%
and after that spent a few months in
 

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and after that spent a few months in
oxford<00:31:17.120><c> i</c><00:31:17.279><c> wrote</c><00:31:17.440><c> some</c><00:31:17.600><c> more</c><00:31:17.840><c> book</c>

00:31:18.389 --> 00:31:18.399 align:start position:0%
oxford i wrote some more book
 

00:31:18.399 --> 00:31:20.149 align:start position:0%
oxford i wrote some more book
spent<00:31:18.720><c> most</c><00:31:18.960><c> of</c><00:31:19.039><c> the</c><00:31:19.120><c> next</c><00:31:19.440><c> year</c><00:31:19.760><c> finishing</c>

00:31:20.149 --> 00:31:20.159 align:start position:0%
spent most of the next year finishing
 

00:31:20.159 --> 00:31:22.230 align:start position:0%
spent most of the next year finishing
the<00:31:20.320><c> book</c><00:31:20.799><c> and</c>

00:31:22.230 --> 00:31:22.240 align:start position:0%
the book and
 

00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:26.070 align:start position:0%
the book and
this<00:31:22.399><c> is</c><00:31:22.559><c> the</c><00:31:22.640><c> visual</c><00:31:23.039><c> control</c><00:31:23.519><c> book</c><00:31:23.919><c> yeah</c>

00:31:26.070 --> 00:31:26.080 align:start position:0%
this is the visual control book yeah
 

00:31:26.080 --> 00:31:28.710 align:start position:0%
this is the visual control book yeah
so<00:31:26.399><c> it</c><00:31:26.640><c> was</c><00:31:27.200><c> i</c><00:31:27.600><c> really</c><00:31:27.840><c> planned</c><00:31:28.240><c> to</c><00:31:28.399><c> write</c><00:31:28.640><c> a</c>

00:31:28.710 --> 00:31:28.720 align:start position:0%
so it was i really planned to write a
 

00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:29.669 align:start position:0%
so it was i really planned to write a
book<00:31:28.960><c> but</c>

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book but
 

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book but
i<00:31:29.840><c> sort</c><00:31:30.000><c> of</c><00:31:30.240><c> thought</c><00:31:30.480><c> about</c><00:31:30.640><c> it</c><00:31:30.799><c> on</c><00:31:30.960><c> and</c><00:31:31.039><c> off</c>

00:31:31.350 --> 00:31:31.360 align:start position:0%
i sort of thought about it on and off
 

00:31:31.360 --> 00:31:33.350 align:start position:0%
i sort of thought about it on and off
and<00:31:31.760><c> i</c><00:31:31.919><c> got</c><00:31:32.159><c> going</c><00:31:32.480><c> i</c><00:31:32.640><c> just</c>

00:31:33.350 --> 00:31:33.360 align:start position:0%
and i got going i just
 

00:31:33.360 --> 00:31:35.669 align:start position:0%
and i got going i just
it<00:31:33.519><c> just</c><00:31:33.840><c> kind</c><00:31:34.000><c> of</c><00:31:34.159><c> all</c><00:31:34.320><c> came</c><00:31:34.559><c> pouring</c><00:31:34.960><c> out</c><00:31:35.200><c> so</c>

00:31:35.669 --> 00:31:35.679 align:start position:0%
it just kind of all came pouring out so
 

00:31:35.679 --> 00:31:37.029 align:start position:0%
it just kind of all came pouring out so
it's<00:31:35.840><c> a</c>

00:31:37.029 --> 00:31:37.039 align:start position:0%
it's a
 

00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:39.110 align:start position:0%
it's a
it's<00:31:37.279><c> a</c><00:31:37.600><c> myth</c><00:31:37.840><c> of</c><00:31:37.919><c> a</c><00:31:38.000><c> book</c><00:31:38.240><c> it's</c><00:31:38.399><c> about</c><00:31:38.640><c> 600</c>

00:31:39.110 --> 00:31:39.120 align:start position:0%
it's a myth of a book it's about 600
 

00:31:39.120 --> 00:31:41.350 align:start position:0%
it's a myth of a book it's about 600
pages<00:31:39.679><c> but</c><00:31:40.000><c> uh</c>

00:31:41.350 --> 00:31:41.360 align:start position:0%
pages but uh
 

00:31:41.360 --> 00:31:44.710 align:start position:0%
pages but uh
it<00:31:41.600><c> all</c><00:31:41.760><c> needed</c><00:31:42.000><c> to</c><00:31:42.080><c> be</c><00:31:42.320><c> said</c><00:31:43.120><c> and</c><00:31:43.679><c> yeah</c><00:31:43.919><c> i</c>

00:31:44.710 --> 00:31:44.720 align:start position:0%
it all needed to be said and yeah i
 

00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:46.389 align:start position:0%
it all needed to be said and yeah i
enjoyed<00:31:45.440><c> enjoyed</c><00:31:45.760><c> the</c><00:31:45.919><c> experience</c><00:31:46.320><c> of</c>

00:31:46.389 --> 00:31:46.399 align:start position:0%
enjoyed enjoyed the experience of
 

00:31:46.399 --> 00:31:48.310 align:start position:0%
enjoyed enjoyed the experience of
writing<00:31:46.720><c> it</c><00:31:47.200><c> so</c><00:31:47.360><c> yeah</c><00:31:47.600><c> it</c><00:31:47.600><c> was</c><00:31:47.760><c> kind</c><00:31:47.919><c> of</c><00:31:48.000><c> a</c><00:31:48.159><c> long</c>

00:31:48.310 --> 00:31:48.320 align:start position:0%
writing it so yeah it was kind of a long
 

00:31:48.320 --> 00:31:50.230 align:start position:0%
writing it so yeah it was kind of a long
drawn-out<00:31:48.799><c> transition</c><00:31:49.279><c> between</c>

00:31:50.230 --> 00:31:50.240 align:start position:0%
drawn-out transition between
 

00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:51.909 align:start position:0%
drawn-out transition between
between<00:31:50.640><c> csiro</c><00:31:51.120><c> and</c><00:31:51.279><c> university</c><00:31:51.600><c> if</c><00:31:51.760><c> i</c>

00:31:51.909 --> 00:31:51.919 align:start position:0%
between csiro and university if i
 

00:31:51.919 --> 00:31:53.269 align:start position:0%
between csiro and university if i
started<00:31:52.240><c> there</c>

00:31:53.269 --> 00:31:53.279 align:start position:0%
started there
 

00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:57.909 align:start position:0%
started there
in<00:31:53.360><c> january</c><00:31:53.760><c> of</c><00:31:53.840><c> 2010</c>

00:31:57.909 --> 00:31:57.919 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:31:57.919 --> 00:32:00.630 align:start position:0%
 
and<00:31:58.880><c> as</c><00:31:59.120><c> you're</c><00:31:59.279><c> writing</c><00:31:59.519><c> that</c><00:31:59.760><c> book</c><00:32:00.240><c> so</c><00:32:00.399><c> what</c>

00:32:00.630 --> 00:32:00.640 align:start position:0%
and as you're writing that book so what
 

00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:02.470 align:start position:0%
and as you're writing that book so what
did<00:32:00.720><c> you</c><00:32:00.880><c> see</c><00:32:01.200><c> as</c><00:32:01.440><c> sort</c><00:32:01.600><c> of</c><00:32:01.760><c> the</c>

00:32:02.470 --> 00:32:02.480 align:start position:0%
did you see as sort of the
 

00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:04.789 align:start position:0%
did you see as sort of the
necessity<00:32:03.120><c> of</c><00:32:03.200><c> writing</c><00:32:03.519><c> such</c><00:32:03.760><c> a</c><00:32:03.919><c> book</c><00:32:04.240><c> that</c>

00:32:04.789 --> 00:32:04.799 align:start position:0%
necessity of writing such a book that
 

00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:06.230 align:start position:0%
necessity of writing such a book that
nobody<00:32:05.120><c> had</c><00:32:05.279><c> sort</c><00:32:05.440><c> of</c><00:32:05.519><c> brought</c><00:32:05.760><c> together</c><00:32:06.159><c> all</c>

00:32:06.230 --> 00:32:06.240 align:start position:0%
nobody had sort of brought together all
 

00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:07.269 align:start position:0%
nobody had sort of brought together all
the<00:32:06.399><c> work</c><00:32:06.720><c> and</c>

00:32:07.269 --> 00:32:07.279 align:start position:0%
the work and
 

00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:09.750 align:start position:0%
the work and
was<00:32:07.440><c> your</c><00:32:07.679><c> control</c><00:32:08.080><c> before</c><00:32:08.640><c> or</c><00:32:08.799><c> was</c><00:32:08.960><c> it</c><00:32:09.120><c> that</c>

00:32:09.750 --> 00:32:09.760 align:start position:0%
was your control before or was it that
 

00:32:09.760 --> 00:32:11.029 align:start position:0%
was your control before or was it that
there<00:32:09.919><c> wasn't</c><00:32:10.240><c> a</c><00:32:10.320><c> sort</c><00:32:10.480><c> of</c>

00:32:11.029 --> 00:32:11.039 align:start position:0%
there wasn't a sort of
 

00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:14.549 align:start position:0%
there wasn't a sort of
overarching<00:32:11.760><c> theory</c><00:32:12.840><c> before</c><00:32:14.000><c> it's</c><00:32:14.159><c> not</c><00:32:14.399><c> a</c>

00:32:14.549 --> 00:32:14.559 align:start position:0%
overarching theory before it's not a
 

00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:15.750 align:start position:0%
overarching theory before it's not a
theory<00:32:15.039><c> thing</c>

00:32:15.750 --> 00:32:15.760 align:start position:0%
theory thing
 

00:32:15.760 --> 00:32:17.909 align:start position:0%
theory thing
i'm<00:32:15.919><c> not</c><00:32:16.080><c> a</c><00:32:16.159><c> very</c><00:32:16.480><c> theoretical</c><00:32:17.360><c> person</c><00:32:17.760><c> i'm</c>

00:32:17.909 --> 00:32:17.919 align:start position:0%
i'm not a very theoretical person i'm
 

00:32:17.919 --> 00:32:20.149 align:start position:0%
i'm not a very theoretical person i'm
not<00:32:18.080><c> a</c><00:32:18.159><c> very</c><00:32:18.640><c> very</c><00:32:18.880><c> mathematical</c><00:32:19.600><c> person</c>

00:32:20.149 --> 00:32:20.159 align:start position:0%
not a very very mathematical person
 

00:32:20.159 --> 00:32:22.549 align:start position:0%
not a very very mathematical person
i<00:32:20.559><c> probably</c><00:32:20.880><c> tend</c><00:32:21.039><c> to</c><00:32:21.279><c> think</c><00:32:21.519><c> a</c><00:32:21.600><c> lot</c><00:32:22.320><c> in</c>

00:32:22.549 --> 00:32:22.559 align:start position:0%
i probably tend to think a lot in
 

00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:23.430 align:start position:0%
i probably tend to think a lot in
diagrams

00:32:23.430 --> 00:32:23.440 align:start position:0%
diagrams
 

00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:27.669 align:start position:0%
diagrams
and<00:32:23.600><c> simple</c><00:32:24.000><c> concepts</c><00:32:24.640><c> and</c><00:32:25.840><c> there</c><00:32:26.000><c> are</c><00:32:26.399><c> a</c><00:32:26.559><c> few</c>

00:32:27.669 --> 00:32:27.679 align:start position:0%
and simple concepts and there are a few
 

00:32:27.679 --> 00:32:30.950 align:start position:0%
and simple concepts and there are a few
things<00:32:28.000><c> i</c><00:32:28.240><c> thought</c><00:32:28.480><c> were</c><00:32:30.080><c> missing</c><00:32:30.559><c> from</c>

00:32:30.950 --> 00:32:30.960 align:start position:0%
things i thought were missing from
 

00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:32.789 align:start position:0%
things i thought were missing from
the<00:32:31.360><c> the</c><00:32:31.519><c> set</c><00:32:31.679><c> of</c><00:32:31.760><c> textbooks</c><00:32:32.320><c> that</c><00:32:32.399><c> were</c><00:32:32.640><c> out</c>

00:32:32.789 --> 00:32:32.799 align:start position:0%
the the set of textbooks that were out
 

00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:34.149 align:start position:0%
the the set of textbooks that were out
there

00:32:34.149 --> 00:32:34.159 align:start position:0%
there
 

00:32:34.159 --> 00:32:36.549 align:start position:0%
there
one<00:32:34.399><c> is</c><00:32:34.480><c> they</c><00:32:34.720><c> all</c><00:32:34.880><c> had</c><00:32:35.120><c> a</c><00:32:35.279><c> fairly</c><00:32:36.159><c> fairly</c>

00:32:36.549 --> 00:32:36.559 align:start position:0%
one is they all had a fairly fairly
 

00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:38.389 align:start position:0%
one is they all had a fairly fairly
formal<00:32:36.960><c> and</c><00:32:37.039><c> mathematical</c><00:32:37.679><c> approach</c><00:32:38.080><c> to</c>

00:32:38.389 --> 00:32:38.399 align:start position:0%
formal and mathematical approach to
 

00:32:38.399 --> 00:32:43.990 align:start position:0%
formal and mathematical approach to
to<00:32:38.559><c> robotics</c><00:32:40.880><c> another</c><00:32:41.279><c> aspect</c><00:32:41.679><c> is</c><00:32:41.919><c> that</c>

00:32:43.990 --> 00:32:44.000 align:start position:0%
to robotics another aspect is that
 

00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:46.310 align:start position:0%
to robotics another aspect is that
in<00:32:44.080><c> terms</c><00:32:44.399><c> of</c><00:32:44.480><c> what</c><00:32:44.640><c> you</c><00:32:44.720><c> can</c><00:32:44.960><c> understand</c>

00:32:46.310 --> 00:32:46.320 align:start position:0%
in terms of what you can understand
 

00:32:46.320 --> 00:32:47.029 align:start position:0%
in terms of what you can understand
treating

00:32:47.029 --> 00:32:47.039 align:start position:0%
treating
 

00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:50.149 align:start position:0%
treating
robots<00:32:48.320><c> formally</c><00:32:48.799><c> mathematically</c><00:32:49.760><c> it's</c><00:32:49.919><c> hard</c>

00:32:50.149 --> 00:32:50.159 align:start position:0%
robots formally mathematically it's hard
 

00:32:50.159 --> 00:32:52.310 align:start position:0%
robots formally mathematically it's hard
to<00:32:50.240><c> go</c><00:32:50.480><c> much</c><00:32:50.799><c> beyond</c><00:32:51.120><c> a</c><00:32:51.279><c> very</c><00:32:51.519><c> simple</c><00:32:51.840><c> robot</c>

00:32:52.310 --> 00:32:52.320 align:start position:0%
to go much beyond a very simple robot
 

00:32:52.320 --> 00:32:54.310 align:start position:0%
to go much beyond a very simple robot
your<00:32:52.559><c> robot</c><00:32:53.039><c> two</c><00:32:53.200><c> joints</c><00:32:53.519><c> a</c><00:32:53.679><c> robot</c><00:32:54.080><c> you</c><00:32:54.240><c> know</c>

00:32:54.310 --> 00:32:54.320 align:start position:0%
your robot two joints a robot you know
 

00:32:54.320 --> 00:32:55.750 align:start position:0%
your robot two joints a robot you know
that<00:32:54.480><c> moves</c><00:32:54.799><c> like</c><00:32:55.039><c> this</c>

00:32:55.750 --> 00:32:55.760 align:start position:0%
that moves like this
 

00:32:55.760 --> 00:32:57.669 align:start position:0%
that moves like this
you<00:32:55.840><c> know</c><00:32:56.080><c> robot</c><00:32:56.480><c> a</c><00:32:56.559><c> real</c><00:32:56.799><c> robot</c><00:32:57.120><c> with</c><00:32:57.360><c> six</c>

00:32:57.669 --> 00:32:57.679 align:start position:0%
you know robot a real robot with six
 

00:32:57.679 --> 00:32:59.990 align:start position:0%
you know robot a real robot with six
degrees<00:32:58.080><c> of</c><00:32:58.159><c> freedom</c><00:32:58.559><c> or</c><00:32:58.799><c> more</c>

00:32:59.990 --> 00:33:00.000 align:start position:0%
degrees of freedom or more
 

00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:02.310 align:start position:0%
degrees of freedom or more
you<00:33:00.159><c> just</c><00:33:00.320><c> can't</c><00:33:00.640><c> write</c><00:33:00.880><c> the</c><00:33:01.039><c> maths</c><00:33:01.360><c> for</c><00:33:01.600><c> it</c><00:33:02.000><c> uh</c>

00:33:02.310 --> 00:33:02.320 align:start position:0%
you just can't write the maths for it uh
 

00:33:02.320 --> 00:33:04.549 align:start position:0%
you just can't write the maths for it uh
it's<00:33:02.640><c> it's</c><00:33:02.880><c> just</c><00:33:03.120><c> too</c><00:33:03.279><c> horrible</c>

00:33:04.549 --> 00:33:04.559 align:start position:0%
it's it's just too horrible
 

00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:06.950 align:start position:0%
it's it's just too horrible
and<00:33:04.799><c> so</c><00:33:05.840><c> one</c><00:33:06.000><c> concern</c><00:33:06.320><c> of</c><00:33:06.399><c> mine</c><00:33:06.559><c> was</c><00:33:06.799><c> that</c>

00:33:06.950 --> 00:33:06.960 align:start position:0%
and so one concern of mine was that
 

00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:08.310 align:start position:0%
and so one concern of mine was that
these<00:33:07.200><c> books</c>

00:33:08.310 --> 00:33:08.320 align:start position:0%
these books
 

00:33:08.320 --> 00:33:11.029 align:start position:0%
these books
kind<00:33:08.480><c> of</c><00:33:08.640><c> lack</c><00:33:08.880><c> the</c><00:33:09.120><c> insight</c><00:33:09.600><c> into</c><00:33:10.320><c> real</c><00:33:10.799><c> real</c>

00:33:11.029 --> 00:33:11.039 align:start position:0%
kind of lack the insight into real real
 

00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:11.830 align:start position:0%
kind of lack the insight into real real
robots

00:33:11.830 --> 00:33:11.840 align:start position:0%
robots
 

00:33:11.840 --> 00:33:13.350 align:start position:0%
robots
because<00:33:12.080><c> they</c><00:33:12.240><c> use</c><00:33:12.399><c> mathematics</c><00:33:12.960><c> they</c><00:33:13.120><c> can't</c>

00:33:13.350 --> 00:33:13.360 align:start position:0%
because they use mathematics they can't
 

00:33:13.360 --> 00:33:15.990 align:start position:0%
because they use mathematics they can't
go<00:33:13.519><c> to</c><00:33:14.480><c> robots</c><00:33:14.880><c> to</c><00:33:15.120><c> the</c><00:33:15.200><c> sort</c><00:33:15.360><c> of</c><00:33:15.440><c> complexity</c>

00:33:15.990 --> 00:33:16.000 align:start position:0%
go to robots to the sort of complexity
 

00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:17.669 align:start position:0%
go to robots to the sort of complexity
of<00:33:16.080><c> the</c><00:33:16.159><c> robots</c><00:33:16.559><c> that</c><00:33:16.640><c> we</c><00:33:16.799><c> actually</c><00:33:17.120><c> use</c>

00:33:17.669 --> 00:33:17.679 align:start position:0%
of the robots that we actually use
 

00:33:17.679 --> 00:33:20.710 align:start position:0%
of the robots that we actually use
that<00:33:17.840><c> was</c><00:33:18.000><c> one</c><00:33:18.159><c> consideration</c><00:33:19.679><c> i</c><00:33:20.000><c> i</c>

00:33:20.710 --> 00:33:20.720 align:start position:0%
that was one consideration i i
 

00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:22.310 align:start position:0%
that was one consideration i i
have<00:33:20.880><c> some</c><00:33:21.039><c> open</c><00:33:21.279><c> source</c><00:33:21.519><c> software</c><00:33:21.919><c> that</c><00:33:22.080><c> i've</c>

00:33:22.310 --> 00:33:22.320 align:start position:0%
have some open source software that i've
 

00:33:22.320 --> 00:33:23.590 align:start position:0%
have some open source software that i've
written<00:33:22.559><c> over</c><00:33:22.720><c> a</c><00:33:22.799><c> long</c><00:33:22.960><c> period</c><00:33:23.200><c> of</c><00:33:23.279><c> time</c><00:33:23.519><c> i</c>

00:33:23.590 --> 00:33:23.600 align:start position:0%
written over a long period of time i
 

00:33:23.600 --> 00:33:24.950 align:start position:0%
written over a long period of time i
think<00:33:23.760><c> called</c><00:33:23.919><c> the</c><00:33:24.000><c> robotics</c><00:33:24.399><c> toolbox</c><00:33:24.799><c> for</c>

00:33:24.950 --> 00:33:24.960 align:start position:0%
think called the robotics toolbox for
 

00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:25.669 align:start position:0%
think called the robotics toolbox for
matlab

00:33:25.669 --> 00:33:25.679 align:start position:0%
matlab
 

00:33:25.679 --> 00:33:28.630 align:start position:0%
matlab
just<00:33:25.840><c> came</c><00:33:26.080><c> out</c><00:33:26.159><c> of</c><00:33:26.240><c> my</c><00:33:26.399><c> phd</c><00:33:26.880><c> work</c><00:33:27.600><c> i</c><00:33:28.000><c> kind</c><00:33:28.159><c> of</c>

00:33:28.630 --> 00:33:28.640 align:start position:0%
just came out of my phd work i kind of
 

00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:30.789 align:start position:0%
just came out of my phd work i kind of
tinker<00:33:28.960><c> with</c><00:33:29.120><c> it</c><00:33:29.279><c> in</c><00:33:29.440><c> bursts</c>

00:33:30.789 --> 00:33:30.799 align:start position:0%
tinker with it in bursts
 

00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:34.870 align:start position:0%
tinker with it in bursts
ever<00:33:31.039><c> since</c><00:33:31.679><c> but</c><00:33:31.919><c> it</c><00:33:32.080><c> allows</c><00:33:32.399><c> you</c><00:33:32.559><c> to</c><00:33:32.799><c> actually</c>

00:33:34.870 --> 00:33:34.880 align:start position:0%
ever since but it allows you to actually
 

00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:37.269 align:start position:0%
ever since but it allows you to actually
you<00:33:35.039><c> know</c><00:33:35.200><c> solve</c><00:33:35.600><c> problems</c><00:33:36.159><c> with</c><00:33:36.799><c> practical</c>

00:33:37.269 --> 00:33:37.279 align:start position:0%
you know solve problems with practical
 

00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:39.350 align:start position:0%
you know solve problems with practical
robots<00:33:37.679><c> with</c><00:33:37.840><c> six</c><00:33:38.080><c> joints</c><00:33:38.480><c> or</c><00:33:38.640><c> eight</c><00:33:38.799><c> joints</c>

00:33:39.350 --> 00:33:39.360 align:start position:0%
robots with six joints or eight joints
 

00:33:39.360 --> 00:33:44.549 align:start position:0%
robots with six joints or eight joints
or<00:33:39.760><c> whatever</c><00:33:41.279><c> and</c>

00:33:44.549 --> 00:33:44.559 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:46.389 align:start position:0%
 
so<00:33:44.720><c> i</c><00:33:44.880><c> wanted</c><00:33:45.120><c> to</c><00:33:45.440><c> i</c><00:33:45.519><c> wanted</c><00:33:45.760><c> to</c><00:33:45.919><c> fold</c><00:33:46.159><c> that</c>

00:33:46.389 --> 00:33:46.399 align:start position:0%
so i wanted to i wanted to fold that
 

00:33:46.399 --> 00:33:49.110 align:start position:0%
so i wanted to i wanted to fold that
into<00:33:46.720><c> into</c><00:33:46.960><c> the</c><00:33:47.039><c> book</c><00:33:47.279><c> somehow</c><00:33:47.840><c> so</c>

00:33:49.110 --> 00:33:49.120 align:start position:0%
into into the book somehow so
 

00:33:49.120 --> 00:33:51.830 align:start position:0%
into into the book somehow so
the<00:33:49.360><c> book</c><00:33:49.600><c> is</c><00:33:50.880><c> i'd</c><00:33:51.039><c> like</c><00:33:51.200><c> to</c><00:33:51.279><c> think</c><00:33:51.440><c> of</c><00:33:51.679><c> it</c>

00:33:51.830 --> 00:33:51.840 align:start position:0%
the book is i'd like to think of it
 

00:33:51.840 --> 00:33:53.430 align:start position:0%
the book is i'd like to think of it
think<00:33:52.000><c> of</c><00:33:52.159><c> it</c><00:33:52.320><c> as</c><00:33:52.399><c> a</c><00:33:52.480><c> bit</c><00:33:52.640><c> of</c><00:33:52.799><c> a</c><00:33:53.039><c> bit</c><00:33:53.200><c> of</c><00:33:53.279><c> a</c>

00:33:53.430 --> 00:33:53.440 align:start position:0%
think of it as a bit of a bit of a
 

00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:54.549 align:start position:0%
think of it as a bit of a bit of a
narrative

00:33:54.549 --> 00:33:54.559 align:start position:0%
narrative
 

00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:56.950 align:start position:0%
narrative
but<00:33:54.720><c> it</c><00:33:54.880><c> uses</c><00:33:55.360><c> the</c><00:33:55.600><c> software</c><00:33:56.159><c> tools</c><00:33:56.559><c> to</c><00:33:56.640><c> help</c>

00:33:56.950 --> 00:33:56.960 align:start position:0%
but it uses the software tools to help
 

00:33:56.960 --> 00:33:58.710 align:start position:0%
but it uses the software tools to help
you<00:33:57.120><c> solve</c><00:33:57.440><c> the</c><00:33:57.600><c> problems</c>

00:33:58.710 --> 00:33:58.720 align:start position:0%
you solve the problems
 

00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:00.389 align:start position:0%
you solve the problems
so<00:33:59.200><c> it</c><00:33:59.279><c> doesn't</c><00:33:59.519><c> get</c><00:33:59.679><c> too</c><00:33:59.840><c> much</c><00:34:00.080><c> into</c><00:34:00.240><c> the</c>

00:34:00.389 --> 00:34:00.399 align:start position:0%
so it doesn't get too much into the
 

00:34:00.399 --> 00:34:04.389 align:start position:0%
so it doesn't get too much into the
theory<00:34:01.600><c> but</c><00:34:01.840><c> it</c><00:34:02.000><c> allows</c><00:34:02.399><c> the</c><00:34:02.640><c> reader</c><00:34:03.120><c> to</c>

00:34:04.389 --> 00:34:04.399 align:start position:0%
theory but it allows the reader to
 

00:34:04.399 --> 00:34:06.149 align:start position:0%
theory but it allows the reader to
get<00:34:04.559><c> their</c><00:34:04.720><c> hands</c><00:34:05.039><c> dirty</c><00:34:05.440><c> and</c><00:34:05.600><c> solve</c><00:34:05.919><c> quite</c>

00:34:06.149 --> 00:34:06.159 align:start position:0%
get their hands dirty and solve quite
 

00:34:06.159 --> 00:34:07.669 align:start position:0%
get their hands dirty and solve quite
complicated<00:34:06.799><c> problems</c>

00:34:07.669 --> 00:34:07.679 align:start position:0%
complicated problems
 

00:34:07.679 --> 00:34:10.629 align:start position:0%
complicated problems
quite<00:34:07.919><c> quickly</c><00:34:09.200><c> and</c><00:34:09.440><c> motivation</c><00:34:10.159><c> is</c><00:34:10.399><c> that</c>

00:34:10.629 --> 00:34:10.639 align:start position:0%
quite quickly and motivation is that
 

00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:11.510 align:start position:0%
quite quickly and motivation is that
okay<00:34:10.960><c> if</c><00:34:11.119><c> they</c>

00:34:11.510 --> 00:34:11.520 align:start position:0%
okay if they
 

00:34:11.520 --> 00:34:12.710 align:start position:0%
okay if they
find<00:34:11.760><c> that</c><00:34:11.919><c> interesting</c><00:34:12.320><c> and</c><00:34:12.399><c> they</c><00:34:12.480><c> want</c><00:34:12.639><c> to</c>

00:34:12.710 --> 00:34:12.720 align:start position:0%
find that interesting and they want to
 

00:34:12.720 --> 00:34:14.470 align:start position:0%
find that interesting and they want to
know<00:34:12.879><c> how</c><00:34:13.040><c> it</c><00:34:13.119><c> works</c><00:34:13.679><c> then</c><00:34:13.919><c> hey</c><00:34:14.079><c> there's</c><00:34:14.240><c> a</c><00:34:14.320><c> lot</c>

00:34:14.470 --> 00:34:14.480 align:start position:0%
know how it works then hey there's a lot
 

00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:15.829 align:start position:0%
know how it works then hey there's a lot
of<00:34:14.560><c> really</c><00:34:14.800><c> other</c><00:34:14.960><c> good</c><00:34:15.119><c> books</c><00:34:15.440><c> that</c><00:34:15.520><c> they</c><00:34:15.679><c> can</c>

00:34:15.829 --> 00:34:15.839 align:start position:0%
of really other good books that they can
 

00:34:15.839 --> 00:34:16.550 align:start position:0%
of really other good books that they can
go<00:34:16.000><c> and</c><00:34:16.159><c> read</c>

00:34:16.550 --> 00:34:16.560 align:start position:0%
go and read
 

00:34:16.560 --> 00:34:18.389 align:start position:0%
go and read
so<00:34:16.720><c> i</c><00:34:16.800><c> didn't</c><00:34:16.960><c> want</c><00:34:17.119><c> to</c><00:34:17.679><c> replicate</c><00:34:18.159><c> what</c><00:34:18.320><c> the</c>

00:34:18.389 --> 00:34:18.399 align:start position:0%
so i didn't want to replicate what the
 

00:34:18.399 --> 00:34:20.230 align:start position:0%
so i didn't want to replicate what the
other<00:34:18.560><c> books</c><00:34:18.879><c> did</c><00:34:19.200><c> i</c><00:34:19.280><c> wanted</c><00:34:19.599><c> to</c><00:34:19.679><c> try</c><00:34:19.919><c> and</c><00:34:20.000><c> get</c>

00:34:20.230 --> 00:34:20.240 align:start position:0%
other books did i wanted to try and get
 

00:34:20.240 --> 00:34:21.190 align:start position:0%
other books did i wanted to try and get
people

00:34:21.190 --> 00:34:21.200 align:start position:0%
people
 

00:34:21.200 --> 00:34:24.230 align:start position:0%
people
engaged<00:34:22.000><c> in</c><00:34:22.320><c> solving</c><00:34:23.520><c> real</c>

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engaged in solving real
 

00:34:24.240 --> 00:34:27.430 align:start position:0%
engaged in solving real
realistic<00:34:24.800><c> problems</c><00:34:26.000><c> with</c><00:34:26.240><c> minimal</c><00:34:26.639><c> pain</c>

00:34:27.430 --> 00:34:27.440 align:start position:0%
realistic problems with minimal pain
 

00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:29.030 align:start position:0%
realistic problems with minimal pain
getting<00:34:27.760><c> excited</c><00:34:28.159><c> and</c><00:34:28.240><c> then</c><00:34:28.399><c> wanting</c><00:34:28.720><c> to</c><00:34:28.800><c> go</c>

00:34:29.030 --> 00:34:29.040 align:start position:0%
getting excited and then wanting to go
 

00:34:29.040 --> 00:34:30.869 align:start position:0%
getting excited and then wanting to go
and<00:34:29.119><c> learn</c><00:34:29.599><c> learn</c><00:34:29.839><c> robotics</c><00:34:30.320><c> so</c>

00:34:30.869 --> 00:34:30.879 align:start position:0%
and learn learn robotics so
 

00:34:30.879 --> 00:34:33.669 align:start position:0%
and learn learn robotics so
a<00:34:31.040><c> bit</c><00:34:31.200><c> of</c><00:34:31.359><c> a</c><00:34:31.440><c> sort</c><00:34:31.679><c> of</c><00:34:32.240><c> inverted</c><00:34:32.800><c> approach</c><00:34:33.359><c> to</c>

00:34:33.669 --> 00:34:33.679 align:start position:0%
a bit of a sort of inverted approach to
 

00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:34.790 align:start position:0%
a bit of a sort of inverted approach to
to<00:34:33.919><c> learning</c>

00:34:34.790 --> 00:34:34.800 align:start position:0%
to learning
 

00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:37.669 align:start position:0%
to learning
so<00:34:35.520><c> that's</c><00:34:35.919><c> probably</c><00:34:36.399><c> the</c><00:34:36.560><c> main</c><00:34:36.879><c> thing</c><00:34:37.119><c> about</c>

00:34:37.669 --> 00:34:37.679 align:start position:0%
so that's probably the main thing about
 

00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:38.310 align:start position:0%
so that's probably the main thing about
the<00:34:37.839><c> book</c><00:34:38.000><c> so</c>

00:34:38.310 --> 00:34:38.320 align:start position:0%
the book so
 

00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:39.990 align:start position:0%
the book so
book<00:34:38.480><c> doesn't</c><00:34:38.720><c> have</c><00:34:38.879><c> that</c><00:34:39.040><c> many</c><00:34:39.280><c> equations</c><00:34:39.839><c> in</c>

00:34:39.990 --> 00:34:40.000 align:start position:0%
book doesn't have that many equations in
 

00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:42.149 align:start position:0%
book doesn't have that many equations in
it<00:34:40.320><c> but</c><00:34:40.480><c> it's</c><00:34:40.639><c> got</c><00:34:40.800><c> lots</c><00:34:41.040><c> of</c><00:34:41.119><c> bits</c><00:34:41.359><c> of</c><00:34:41.440><c> code</c>

00:34:42.149 --> 00:34:42.159 align:start position:0%
it but it's got lots of bits of code
 

00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:44.149 align:start position:0%
it but it's got lots of bits of code
so<00:34:42.399><c> you</c><00:34:42.560><c> can</c><00:34:42.960><c> open</c><00:34:43.200><c> up</c><00:34:43.359><c> any</c><00:34:43.520><c> particular</c><00:34:43.839><c> page</c>

00:34:44.149 --> 00:34:44.159 align:start position:0%
so you can open up any particular page
 

00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:45.669 align:start position:0%
so you can open up any particular page
the<00:34:44.240><c> book</c><00:34:44.560><c> and</c><00:34:44.639><c> there's</c><00:34:44.879><c> some</c><00:34:45.040><c> code</c><00:34:45.359><c> that</c><00:34:45.520><c> says</c>

00:34:45.669 --> 00:34:45.679 align:start position:0%
the book and there's some code that says
 

00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:47.270 align:start position:0%
the book and there's some code that says
this<00:34:45.839><c> is</c><00:34:45.919><c> how</c><00:34:46.079><c> you</c><00:34:46.159><c> make</c><00:34:46.399><c> a</c><00:34:46.480><c> robot</c><00:34:46.800><c> do</c><00:34:46.960><c> this</c><00:34:47.119><c> so</c>

00:34:47.270 --> 00:34:47.280 align:start position:0%
this is how you make a robot do this so
 

00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:49.510 align:start position:0%
this is how you make a robot do this so
you<00:34:47.359><c> can</c><00:34:47.599><c> actually</c><00:34:47.919><c> type</c><00:34:48.159><c> it</c><00:34:48.240><c> into</c><00:34:48.399><c> matlab</c><00:34:49.040><c> and</c>

00:34:49.510 --> 00:34:49.520 align:start position:0%
you can actually type it into matlab and
 

00:34:49.520 --> 00:34:51.909 align:start position:0%
you can actually type it into matlab and
you<00:34:49.599><c> know</c><00:34:49.760><c> you</c><00:34:49.839><c> can</c><00:34:50.000><c> replicate</c><00:34:50.480><c> the</c><00:34:50.560><c> result</c>

00:34:51.909 --> 00:34:51.919 align:start position:0%
you know you can replicate the result
 

00:34:51.919 --> 00:34:53.030 align:start position:0%
you know you can replicate the result
and<00:34:52.159><c> you</c><00:34:52.240><c> can</c><00:34:52.399><c> plot</c><00:34:52.800><c> the</c>

00:34:53.030 --> 00:34:53.040 align:start position:0%
and you can plot the
 

00:34:53.040 --> 00:34:54.470 align:start position:0%
and you can plot the
data<00:34:53.359><c> differently</c><00:34:53.839><c> you</c><00:34:53.919><c> can</c><00:34:54.079><c> change</c><00:34:54.399><c> the</c>

00:34:54.470 --> 00:34:54.480 align:start position:0%
data differently you can change the
 

00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:57.829 align:start position:0%
data differently you can change the
parameters<00:34:55.440><c> change</c><00:34:55.679><c> the</c><00:34:55.839><c> robot</c><00:34:56.159><c> model</c>

00:34:57.829 --> 00:34:57.839 align:start position:0%
parameters change the robot model
 

00:34:57.839 --> 00:35:00.950 align:start position:0%
parameters change the robot model
it's<00:34:58.560><c> yeah</c><00:34:59.760><c> how</c><00:35:00.000><c> we</c><00:35:00.160><c> found</c><00:35:00.400><c> it</c><00:35:00.560><c> different</c><00:35:00.880><c> to</c>

00:35:00.950 --> 00:35:00.960 align:start position:0%
it's yeah how we found it different to
 

00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:01.750 align:start position:0%
it's yeah how we found it different to
be<00:35:01.119><c> working</c><00:35:01.440><c> in</c><00:35:01.520><c> an</c>

00:35:01.750 --> 00:35:01.760 align:start position:0%
be working in an
 

00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:03.910 align:start position:0%
be working in an
academic<00:35:02.400><c> university</c><00:35:03.040><c> setting</c><00:35:03.359><c> as</c><00:35:03.520><c> opposed</c>

00:35:03.910 --> 00:35:03.920 align:start position:0%
academic university setting as opposed
 

00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:05.750 align:start position:0%
academic university setting as opposed
to<00:35:04.240><c> a</c>

00:35:05.750 --> 00:35:05.760 align:start position:0%
to a
 

00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:09.589 align:start position:0%
to a
company<00:35:07.520><c> the</c>

00:35:09.589 --> 00:35:09.599 align:start position:0%
company the
 

00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:10.950 align:start position:0%
company the
there's<00:35:10.079><c> a</c><00:35:10.160><c> couple</c><00:35:10.320><c> of</c><00:35:10.400><c> really</c><00:35:10.640><c> obvious</c>

00:35:10.950 --> 00:35:10.960 align:start position:0%
there's a couple of really obvious
 

00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:13.270 align:start position:0%
there's a couple of really obvious
differences<00:35:11.520><c> one</c><00:35:11.760><c> is</c><00:35:12.079><c> one</c><00:35:12.320><c> is</c><00:35:12.720><c> around</c>

00:35:13.270 --> 00:35:13.280 align:start position:0%
differences one is one is around
 

00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:17.349 align:start position:0%
differences one is one is around
freedom<00:35:13.680><c> of</c><00:35:13.760><c> what</c><00:35:13.920><c> you</c><00:35:14.079><c> do</c><00:35:14.800><c> so</c><00:35:15.040><c> at</c><00:35:15.200><c> csiro</c>

00:35:17.349 --> 00:35:17.359 align:start position:0%
freedom of what you do so at csiro
 

00:35:17.359 --> 00:35:19.349 align:start position:0%
freedom of what you do so at csiro
increasingly<00:35:18.240><c> the</c><00:35:18.400><c> research</c><00:35:18.720><c> agenda</c><00:35:19.119><c> was</c><00:35:19.200><c> set</c>

00:35:19.349 --> 00:35:19.359 align:start position:0%
increasingly the research agenda was set
 

00:35:19.359 --> 00:35:20.790 align:start position:0%
increasingly the research agenda was set
by<00:35:19.599><c> other</c><00:35:19.760><c> people</c><00:35:20.079><c> not</c><00:35:20.320><c> by</c><00:35:20.480><c> me</c>

00:35:20.790 --> 00:35:20.800 align:start position:0%
by other people not by me
 

00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:23.030 align:start position:0%
by other people not by me
so<00:35:21.040><c> at</c><00:35:21.119><c> the</c><00:35:21.200><c> university</c><00:35:21.680><c> i</c><00:35:21.839><c> can</c><00:35:22.000><c> do</c><00:35:22.240><c> research</c>

00:35:23.030 --> 00:35:23.040 align:start position:0%
so at the university i can do research
 

00:35:23.040 --> 00:35:25.349 align:start position:0%
so at the university i can do research
really<00:35:23.280><c> on</c><00:35:23.440><c> anything</c><00:35:23.760><c> that</c><00:35:23.920><c> i</c><00:35:24.000><c> want</c><00:35:24.240><c> to</c><00:35:24.320><c> do</c>

00:35:25.349 --> 00:35:25.359 align:start position:0%
really on anything that i want to do
 

00:35:25.359 --> 00:35:28.069 align:start position:0%
really on anything that i want to do
i<00:35:25.520><c> guess</c><00:35:25.760><c> as</c><00:35:25.839><c> long</c><00:35:26.079><c> as</c><00:35:26.240><c> i'm</c><00:35:26.400><c> training</c><00:35:26.720><c> students</c>

00:35:28.069 --> 00:35:28.079 align:start position:0%
i guess as long as i'm training students
 

00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:29.510 align:start position:0%
i guess as long as i'm training students
and<00:35:28.320><c> or</c><00:35:28.480><c> generating</c>

00:35:29.510 --> 00:35:29.520 align:start position:0%
and or generating
 

00:35:29.520 --> 00:35:31.589 align:start position:0%
and or generating
uh<00:35:29.760><c> some</c><00:35:29.920><c> publications</c><00:35:30.560><c> along</c><00:35:30.800><c> the</c><00:35:30.880><c> way</c><00:35:31.280><c> so</c>

00:35:31.589 --> 00:35:31.599 align:start position:0%
uh some publications along the way so
 

00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:32.790 align:start position:0%
uh some publications along the way so
the<00:35:31.680><c> freedom</c><00:35:32.000><c> is</c><00:35:32.079><c> a</c><00:35:32.160><c> big</c><00:35:32.320><c> one</c>

00:35:32.790 --> 00:35:32.800 align:start position:0%
the freedom is a big one
 

00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:34.630 align:start position:0%
the freedom is a big one
the<00:35:32.960><c> second</c><00:35:33.200><c> one</c><00:35:33.440><c> is</c><00:35:33.760><c> probably</c><00:35:34.000><c> resourcing</c>

00:35:34.630 --> 00:35:34.640 align:start position:0%
the second one is probably resourcing
 

00:35:34.640 --> 00:35:36.790 align:start position:0%
the second one is probably resourcing
and<00:35:34.800><c> funding</c><00:35:35.520><c> at</c><00:35:35.760><c> cesaro</c>

00:35:36.790 --> 00:35:36.800 align:start position:0%
and funding at cesaro
 

00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:40.870 align:start position:0%
and funding at cesaro
the<00:35:36.960><c> funding</c><00:35:37.280><c> was</c><00:35:38.960><c> much</c><00:35:39.200><c> more</c>

00:35:40.870 --> 00:35:40.880 align:start position:0%
the funding was much more
 

00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:42.950 align:start position:0%
the funding was much more
much<00:35:41.119><c> more</c><00:35:41.280><c> lush</c><00:35:42.240><c> than</c><00:35:42.400><c> it</c><00:35:42.560><c> is</c><00:35:42.720><c> at</c><00:35:42.800><c> the</c>

00:35:42.950 --> 00:35:42.960 align:start position:0%
much more lush than it is at the
 

00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:44.710 align:start position:0%
much more lush than it is at the
university<00:35:43.760><c> so</c><00:35:43.920><c> the</c><00:35:44.000><c> university</c><00:35:44.400><c> you</c><00:35:44.480><c> know</c>

00:35:44.710 --> 00:35:44.720 align:start position:0%
university so the university you know
 

00:35:44.720 --> 00:35:46.230 align:start position:0%
university so the university you know
it's<00:35:44.880><c> hard</c><00:35:45.119><c> work</c><00:35:45.359><c> to</c><00:35:45.520><c> get</c><00:35:45.680><c> funding</c><00:35:46.000><c> you</c><00:35:46.079><c> got</c><00:35:46.160><c> to</c>

00:35:46.230 --> 00:35:46.240 align:start position:0%
it's hard work to get funding you got to
 

00:35:46.240 --> 00:35:47.910 align:start position:0%
it's hard work to get funding you got to
write<00:35:46.480><c> grant</c><00:35:46.720><c> proposals</c><00:35:47.359><c> and</c><00:35:47.440><c> then</c><00:35:47.599><c> wait</c><00:35:47.760><c> for</c>

00:35:47.910 --> 00:35:47.920 align:start position:0%
write grant proposals and then wait for
 

00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:49.109 align:start position:0%
write grant proposals and then wait for
them<00:35:48.000><c> to</c><00:35:48.079><c> come</c><00:35:48.320><c> off</c><00:35:48.560><c> and</c>

00:35:49.109 --> 00:35:49.119 align:start position:0%
them to come off and
 

00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:51.750 align:start position:0%
them to come off and
and<00:35:49.280><c> all</c><00:35:49.440><c> of</c><00:35:49.520><c> that</c><00:35:50.079><c> so</c><00:35:50.960><c> university</c><00:35:51.520><c> more</c>

00:35:51.750 --> 00:35:51.760 align:start position:0%
and all of that so university more
 

00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:52.470 align:start position:0%
and all of that so university more
freedom

00:35:52.470 --> 00:35:52.480 align:start position:0%
freedom
 

00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:55.030 align:start position:0%
freedom
uh<00:35:53.040><c> less</c><00:35:53.280><c> resource</c><00:35:53.920><c> the</c><00:35:54.000><c> other</c><00:35:54.240><c> place</c><00:35:54.800><c> more</c>

00:35:55.030 --> 00:35:55.040 align:start position:0%
uh less resource the other place more
 

00:35:55.040 --> 00:35:56.150 align:start position:0%
uh less resource the other place more
resource<00:35:55.440><c> less</c><00:35:55.599><c> freedom</c>

00:35:56.150 --> 00:35:56.160 align:start position:0%
resource less freedom
 

00:35:56.160 --> 00:35:58.069 align:start position:0%
resource less freedom
so<00:35:56.480><c> yeah</c><00:35:56.720><c> that</c><00:35:57.040><c> i</c><00:35:57.119><c> think</c><00:35:57.280><c> is</c><00:35:57.359><c> the</c><00:35:57.440><c> fundamental</c>

00:35:58.069 --> 00:35:58.079 align:start position:0%
so yeah that i think is the fundamental
 

00:35:58.079 --> 00:35:59.589 align:start position:0%
so yeah that i think is the fundamental
trade

00:35:59.589 --> 00:35:59.599 align:start position:0%
trade
 

00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:03.190 align:start position:0%
trade
but<00:35:59.760><c> you</c><00:35:59.920><c> adapted</c><00:36:00.480><c> well</c><00:36:01.280><c> yeah</c><00:36:01.520><c> i</c><00:36:01.599><c> think</c><00:36:01.839><c> so</c><00:36:02.400><c> uh</c>

00:36:03.190 --> 00:36:03.200 align:start position:0%
but you adapted well yeah i think so uh
 

00:36:03.200 --> 00:36:06.470 align:start position:0%
but you adapted well yeah i think so uh
been<00:36:03.760><c> successful</c><00:36:04.640><c> in</c><00:36:04.880><c> some</c><00:36:05.440><c> some</c><00:36:05.760><c> early</c><00:36:06.160><c> early</c>

00:36:06.470 --> 00:36:06.480 align:start position:0%
been successful in some some early early
 

00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:07.190 align:start position:0%
been successful in some some early early
grants

00:36:07.190 --> 00:36:07.200 align:start position:0%
grants
 

00:36:07.200 --> 00:36:09.190 align:start position:0%
grants
uh<00:36:07.760><c> that's</c><00:36:08.160><c> got</c><00:36:08.320><c> some</c><00:36:08.480><c> good</c><00:36:08.640><c> colleagues</c><00:36:09.119><c> at</c>

00:36:09.190 --> 00:36:09.200 align:start position:0%
uh that's got some good colleagues at
 

00:36:09.200 --> 00:36:10.390 align:start position:0%
uh that's got some good colleagues at
the<00:36:09.359><c> university</c>

00:36:10.390 --> 00:36:10.400 align:start position:0%
the university
 

00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:13.030 align:start position:0%
the university
so<00:36:10.640><c> when</c><00:36:10.800><c> i</c><00:36:10.880><c> went</c><00:36:11.040><c> there</c><00:36:11.280><c> i</c><00:36:11.440><c> sort</c><00:36:11.599><c> of</c><00:36:12.640><c> dragged</c><00:36:12.960><c> a</c>

00:36:13.030 --> 00:36:13.040 align:start position:0%
so when i went there i sort of dragged a
 

00:36:13.040 --> 00:36:13.829 align:start position:0%
so when i went there i sort of dragged a
few<00:36:13.200><c> other</c><00:36:13.359><c> people</c>

00:36:13.829 --> 00:36:13.839 align:start position:0%
few other people
 

00:36:13.839 --> 00:36:15.589 align:start position:0%
few other people
in<00:36:14.000><c> as</c><00:36:14.160><c> well</c><00:36:14.480><c> so</c><00:36:14.640><c> we</c><00:36:14.800><c> started</c><00:36:15.119><c> start</c><00:36:15.359><c> with</c><00:36:15.520><c> a</c>

00:36:15.589 --> 00:36:15.599 align:start position:0%
in as well so we started start with a
 

00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:18.150 align:start position:0%
in as well so we started start with a
good<00:36:15.760><c> nucleus</c><00:36:16.800><c> and</c><00:36:16.960><c> the</c><00:36:17.119><c> universe</c><00:36:17.520><c> has</c><00:36:17.680><c> been</c>

00:36:18.150 --> 00:36:18.160 align:start position:0%
good nucleus and the universe has been
 

00:36:18.160 --> 00:36:20.870 align:start position:0%
good nucleus and the universe has been
generous<00:36:18.640><c> in</c><00:36:19.040><c> funding</c><00:36:19.359><c> us</c><00:36:19.520><c> with</c><00:36:19.839><c> extra</c><00:36:20.560><c> extra</c>

00:36:20.870 --> 00:36:20.880 align:start position:0%
generous in funding us with extra extra
 

00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:22.550 align:start position:0%
generous in funding us with extra extra
positions<00:36:21.359><c> so</c><00:36:21.520><c> you've</c><00:36:21.839><c> got</c><00:36:22.079><c> quite</c><00:36:22.320><c> a</c>

00:36:22.550 --> 00:36:22.560 align:start position:0%
positions so you've got quite a
 

00:36:22.560 --> 00:36:25.750 align:start position:0%
positions so you've got quite a
a<00:36:22.720><c> good</c><00:36:22.960><c> and</c><00:36:23.119><c> vibrant</c><00:36:23.599><c> lab</c><00:36:24.400><c> and</c><00:36:25.440><c> that</c>

00:36:25.750 --> 00:36:25.760 align:start position:0%
a good and vibrant lab and that
 

00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:27.990 align:start position:0%
a good and vibrant lab and that
that's<00:36:26.320><c> that's</c><00:36:26.560><c> a</c><00:36:26.720><c> joy</c><00:36:27.280><c> to</c><00:36:27.520><c> have</c><00:36:27.599><c> sort</c><00:36:27.760><c> of</c><00:36:27.920><c> you</c>

00:36:27.990 --> 00:36:28.000 align:start position:0%
that's that's a joy to have sort of you
 

00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:28.870 align:start position:0%
that's that's a joy to have sort of you
know<00:36:28.160><c> built</c><00:36:28.400><c> this</c>

00:36:28.870 --> 00:36:28.880 align:start position:0%
know built this
 

00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:31.270 align:start position:0%
know built this
built<00:36:29.200><c> this</c><00:36:29.359><c> group</c><00:36:29.599><c> up</c><00:36:30.640><c> can</c><00:36:30.880><c> you</c><00:36:30.960><c> tell</c><00:36:31.119><c> me</c><00:36:31.200><c> a</c>

00:36:31.270 --> 00:36:31.280 align:start position:0%
built this group up can you tell me a
 

00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:33.270 align:start position:0%
built this group up can you tell me a
bit<00:36:31.440><c> about</c><00:36:31.599><c> your</c><00:36:31.760><c> history</c><00:36:32.160><c> with</c><00:36:32.400><c> the</c><00:36:32.640><c> ieee</c>

00:36:33.270 --> 00:36:33.280 align:start position:0%
bit about your history with the ieee
 

00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:34.150 align:start position:0%
bit about your history with the ieee
robotics<00:36:33.760><c> and</c>

00:36:34.150 --> 00:36:34.160 align:start position:0%
robotics and
 

00:36:34.160 --> 00:36:36.550 align:start position:0%
robotics and
automation<00:36:34.720><c> society</c><00:36:35.760><c> how</c><00:36:35.920><c> you</c><00:36:36.000><c> got</c><00:36:36.240><c> involved</c>

00:36:36.550 --> 00:36:36.560 align:start position:0%
automation society how you got involved
 

00:36:36.560 --> 00:36:38.829 align:start position:0%
automation society how you got involved
with<00:36:36.800><c> it</c>

00:36:38.829 --> 00:36:38.839 align:start position:0%
with it
 

00:36:38.839 --> 00:36:41.910 align:start position:0%
with it
sure<00:36:40.320><c> i</c><00:36:40.400><c> think</c><00:36:40.640><c> i've</c><00:36:40.720><c> been</c><00:36:40.960><c> a</c><00:36:41.280><c> member</c><00:36:41.680><c> of</c><00:36:41.760><c> the</c>

00:36:41.910 --> 00:36:41.920 align:start position:0%
sure i think i've been a member of the
 

00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:43.109 align:start position:0%
sure i think i've been a member of the
ieee

00:36:43.109 --> 00:36:43.119 align:start position:0%
ieee
 

00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:45.589 align:start position:0%
ieee
for<00:36:43.280><c> the</c><00:36:43.440><c> longest</c><00:36:43.760><c> time</c><00:36:43.920><c> probably</c><00:36:44.320><c> since</c><00:36:44.880><c> uh</c><00:36:45.520><c> i</c>

00:36:45.589 --> 00:36:45.599 align:start position:0%
for the longest time probably since uh i
 

00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:46.230 align:start position:0%
for the longest time probably since uh i
was

00:36:46.230 --> 00:36:46.240 align:start position:0%
was
 

00:36:46.240 --> 00:36:48.710 align:start position:0%
was
did<00:36:46.480><c> my</c><00:36:46.640><c> did</c><00:36:46.800><c> my</c><00:36:46.960><c> phd</c><00:36:48.079><c> and</c><00:36:48.240><c> you</c><00:36:48.320><c> know</c><00:36:48.400><c> i</c><00:36:48.560><c> come</c>

00:36:48.710 --> 00:36:48.720 align:start position:0%
did my did my phd and you know i come
 

00:36:48.720 --> 00:36:50.710 align:start position:0%
did my did my phd and you know i come
along<00:36:48.960><c> to</c><00:36:49.040><c> icarus</c><00:36:49.520><c> and</c><00:36:49.680><c> irs's</c><00:36:50.320><c> and</c>

00:36:50.710 --> 00:36:50.720 align:start position:0%
along to icarus and irs's and
 

00:36:50.720 --> 00:36:52.470 align:start position:0%
along to icarus and irs's and
and<00:36:51.119><c> and</c><00:36:51.359><c> those</c><00:36:51.520><c> sorts</c><00:36:51.760><c> of</c><00:36:51.839><c> things</c><00:36:52.160><c> you</c><00:36:52.240><c> know</c>

00:36:52.470 --> 00:36:52.480 align:start position:0%
and and those sorts of things you know
 

00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:53.990 align:start position:0%
and and those sorts of things you know
subscribe<00:36:52.880><c> to</c><00:36:53.040><c> the</c><00:36:53.119><c> transactions</c><00:36:53.839><c> the</c>

00:36:53.990 --> 00:36:54.000 align:start position:0%
subscribe to the transactions the
 

00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:55.510 align:start position:0%
subscribe to the transactions the
magazine

00:36:55.510 --> 00:36:55.520 align:start position:0%
magazine
 

00:36:55.520 --> 00:36:57.270 align:start position:0%
magazine
probably<00:36:55.839><c> never</c><00:36:56.160><c> paid</c><00:36:56.400><c> too</c><00:36:56.560><c> much</c><00:36:56.800><c> attention</c>

00:36:57.270 --> 00:36:57.280 align:start position:0%
probably never paid too much attention
 

00:36:57.280 --> 00:36:58.710 align:start position:0%
probably never paid too much attention
to<00:36:57.440><c> how</c><00:36:57.680><c> the</c><00:36:57.839><c> whole</c>

00:36:58.710 --> 00:36:58.720 align:start position:0%
to how the whole
 

00:36:58.720 --> 00:37:01.589 align:start position:0%
to how the whole
organization<00:36:59.520><c> worked</c><00:37:00.800><c> probably</c><00:37:01.200><c> early</c><00:37:01.440><c> on</c>

00:37:01.589 --> 00:37:01.599 align:start position:0%
organization worked probably early on
 

00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:02.870 align:start position:0%
organization worked probably early on
didn't<00:37:01.839><c> realize</c><00:37:02.240><c> all</c><00:37:02.400><c> the</c><00:37:02.560><c> people</c><00:37:02.800><c> are</c>

00:37:02.870 --> 00:37:02.880 align:start position:0%
didn't realize all the people are
 

00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:06.550 align:start position:0%
didn't realize all the people are
slaving<00:37:03.280><c> away</c><00:37:03.520><c> to</c><00:37:03.599><c> make</c><00:37:03.760><c> these</c><00:37:04.000><c> things</c><00:37:04.240><c> happen</c>

00:37:06.550 --> 00:37:06.560 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:37:06.560 --> 00:37:08.470 align:start position:0%
 
i<00:37:06.720><c> can't</c><00:37:06.960><c> quite</c><00:37:07.200><c> remember</c><00:37:07.599><c> how</c><00:37:07.839><c> i</c><00:37:08.079><c> got</c>

00:37:08.470 --> 00:37:08.480 align:start position:0%
i can't quite remember how i got
 

00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:09.829 align:start position:0%
i can't quite remember how i got
involved<00:37:09.200><c> in</c><00:37:09.440><c> the</c>

00:37:09.829 --> 00:37:09.839 align:start position:0%
involved in the
 

00:37:09.839 --> 00:37:12.550 align:start position:0%
involved in the
in<00:37:10.000><c> the</c><00:37:10.160><c> society</c><00:37:11.359><c> uh</c><00:37:11.680><c> a</c><00:37:11.839><c> colleague</c><00:37:12.240><c> of</c><00:37:12.320><c> mine</c><00:37:12.480><c> in</c>

00:37:12.550 --> 00:37:12.560 align:start position:0%
in the society uh a colleague of mine in
 

00:37:12.560 --> 00:37:14.390 align:start position:0%
in the society uh a colleague of mine in
australia<00:37:12.960><c> alex</c><00:37:13.280><c> zielinski</c>

00:37:14.390 --> 00:37:14.400 align:start position:0%
australia alex zielinski
 

00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:17.670 align:start position:0%
australia alex zielinski
uh<00:37:14.880><c> and</c><00:37:16.000><c> sonic</c><00:37:16.400><c> a</c><00:37:16.480><c> team</c><00:37:16.880><c> i</c>

00:37:17.670 --> 00:37:17.680 align:start position:0%
uh and sonic a team i
 

00:37:17.680 --> 00:37:20.630 align:start position:0%
uh and sonic a team i
lent<00:37:18.000><c> on</c><00:37:18.079><c> me</c><00:37:18.240><c> a</c><00:37:18.320><c> bit</c><00:37:18.560><c> to</c><00:37:18.880><c> join</c><00:37:19.119><c> the</c><00:37:19.280><c> ad</c><00:37:19.599><c> com</c><00:37:20.480><c> i</c>

00:37:20.630 --> 00:37:20.640 align:start position:0%
lent on me a bit to join the ad com i
 

00:37:20.640 --> 00:37:22.310 align:start position:0%
lent on me a bit to join the ad com i
didn't<00:37:20.800><c> even</c><00:37:20.960><c> know</c><00:37:21.119><c> what</c><00:37:21.280><c> the</c><00:37:21.359><c> adcom</c><00:37:21.839><c> was</c>

00:37:22.310 --> 00:37:22.320 align:start position:0%
didn't even know what the adcom was
 

00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:24.870 align:start position:0%
didn't even know what the adcom was
at<00:37:22.480><c> that</c><00:37:22.720><c> point</c><00:37:23.119><c> so</c><00:37:23.839><c> i</c><00:37:24.079><c> think</c><00:37:24.320><c> i</c><00:37:24.560><c> i</c><00:37:24.720><c> can't</c>

00:37:24.870 --> 00:37:24.880 align:start position:0%
at that point so i think i i can't
 

00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:25.990 align:start position:0%
at that point so i think i i can't
remember<00:37:25.119><c> what</c><00:37:25.280><c> year</c><00:37:25.599><c> i</c>

00:37:25.990 --> 00:37:26.000 align:start position:0%
remember what year i
 

00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:29.109 align:start position:0%
remember what year i
i<00:37:26.240><c> joined</c><00:37:28.000><c> joined</c><00:37:28.320><c> the</c><00:37:28.400><c> adcom</c><00:37:28.880><c> i</c><00:37:28.960><c> could</c>

00:37:29.109 --> 00:37:29.119 align:start position:0%
i joined joined the adcom i could
 

00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:30.310 align:start position:0%
i joined joined the adcom i could
probably<00:37:29.359><c> work</c><00:37:29.599><c> it</c><00:37:29.760><c> out</c>

00:37:30.310 --> 00:37:30.320 align:start position:0%
probably work it out
 

00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:32.230 align:start position:0%
probably work it out
because<00:37:30.560><c> i</c><00:37:30.640><c> get</c><00:37:30.880><c> kicked</c><00:37:31.119><c> off</c><00:37:31.359><c> this</c><00:37:31.599><c> year</c><00:37:32.000><c> just</c>

00:37:32.230 --> 00:37:32.240 align:start position:0%
because i get kicked off this year just
 

00:37:32.240 --> 00:37:34.630 align:start position:0%
because i get kicked off this year just
2013<00:37:33.200><c> so</c>

00:37:34.630 --> 00:37:34.640 align:start position:0%
2013 so
 

00:37:34.640 --> 00:37:35.990 align:start position:0%
2013 so
i've<00:37:34.800><c> been</c><00:37:34.960><c> on</c><00:37:35.119><c> it</c><00:37:35.200><c> for</c><00:37:35.359><c> four</c><00:37:35.599><c> years</c><00:37:35.760><c> it</c><00:37:35.839><c> must</c>

00:37:35.990 --> 00:37:36.000 align:start position:0%
i've been on it for four years it must
 

00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:39.270 align:start position:0%
i've been on it for four years it must
have<00:37:36.079><c> been</c><00:37:36.440><c> 2009</c>

00:37:39.270 --> 00:37:39.280 align:start position:0%
have been 2009
 

00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:41.829 align:start position:0%
have been 2009
or<00:37:39.520><c> thereabouts</c><00:37:40.480><c> that</c><00:37:40.640><c> i</c><00:37:40.800><c> that</c><00:37:40.960><c> i</c><00:37:41.200><c> joined</c><00:37:41.520><c> uh</c>

00:37:41.829 --> 00:37:41.839 align:start position:0%
or thereabouts that i that i joined uh
 

00:37:41.839 --> 00:37:43.030 align:start position:0%
or thereabouts that i that i joined uh
joined<00:37:42.079><c> the</c><00:37:42.240><c> adcom</c>

00:37:43.030 --> 00:37:43.040 align:start position:0%
joined the adcom
 

00:37:43.040 --> 00:37:44.950 align:start position:0%
joined the adcom
and<00:37:43.200><c> that</c><00:37:43.359><c> was</c><00:37:43.760><c> probably</c><00:37:44.240><c> really</c><00:37:44.560><c> my</c><00:37:44.720><c> first</c>

00:37:44.950 --> 00:37:44.960 align:start position:0%
and that was probably really my first
 

00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:46.870 align:start position:0%
and that was probably really my first
introduction<00:37:45.520><c> to</c><00:37:45.760><c> what</c><00:37:45.920><c> was</c><00:37:46.079><c> going</c><00:37:46.320><c> on</c><00:37:46.560><c> behind</c>

00:37:46.870 --> 00:37:46.880 align:start position:0%
introduction to what was going on behind
 

00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:47.349 align:start position:0%
introduction to what was going on behind
the

00:37:47.349 --> 00:37:47.359 align:start position:0%
the
 

00:37:47.359 --> 00:37:50.630 align:start position:0%
the
the<00:37:47.520><c> scene</c><00:37:47.920><c> so</c><00:37:48.480><c> the</c><00:37:48.839><c> adcoms</c><00:37:50.240><c> like</c><00:37:50.480><c> the</c>

00:37:50.630 --> 00:37:50.640 align:start position:0%
the scene so the adcoms like the
 

00:37:50.640 --> 00:37:52.069 align:start position:0%
the scene so the adcoms like the
parliament<00:37:51.119><c> of</c><00:37:51.200><c> the</c><00:37:51.359><c> society</c><00:37:51.760><c> so</c><00:37:51.920><c> we're</c>

00:37:52.069 --> 00:37:52.079 align:start position:0%
parliament of the society so we're
 

00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:53.510 align:start position:0%
parliament of the society so we're
elected<00:37:52.400><c> by</c><00:37:52.560><c> the</c><00:37:52.720><c> members</c>

00:37:53.510 --> 00:37:53.520 align:start position:0%
elected by the members
 

00:37:53.520 --> 00:37:56.230 align:start position:0%
elected by the members
uh<00:37:53.839><c> there's</c><00:37:54.079><c> 18</c><00:37:54.480><c> of</c><00:37:54.640><c> us</c><00:37:55.040><c> at</c><00:37:55.200><c> any</c><00:37:55.359><c> one</c><00:37:55.599><c> point</c>

00:37:56.230 --> 00:37:56.240 align:start position:0%
uh there's 18 of us at any one point
 

00:37:56.240 --> 00:37:57.990 align:start position:0%
uh there's 18 of us at any one point
it's<00:37:56.400><c> our</c><00:37:56.560><c> job</c><00:37:56.800><c> to</c><00:37:56.880><c> keep</c><00:37:57.119><c> the</c><00:37:57.280><c> executive</c><00:37:57.839><c> under</c>

00:37:57.990 --> 00:37:58.000 align:start position:0%
it's our job to keep the executive under
 

00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:00.870 align:start position:0%
it's our job to keep the executive under
control

00:38:00.870 --> 00:38:00.880 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:03.510 align:start position:0%
 
and<00:38:01.359><c> yeah</c><00:38:01.599><c> so</c><00:38:01.760><c> i</c><00:38:02.079><c> was</c><00:38:02.320><c> then</c><00:38:02.560><c> on</c><00:38:02.800><c> various</c><00:38:03.280><c> kind</c>

00:38:03.510 --> 00:38:03.520 align:start position:0%
and yeah so i was then on various kind
 

00:38:03.520 --> 00:38:05.430 align:start position:0%
and yeah so i was then on various kind
of<00:38:03.680><c> subcommittees</c>

00:38:05.430 --> 00:38:05.440 align:start position:0%
of subcommittees
 

00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:07.829 align:start position:0%
of subcommittees
so<00:38:05.680><c> you</c><00:38:05.839><c> got</c><00:38:06.000><c> some</c><00:38:06.240><c> experience</c><00:38:06.720><c> around</c><00:38:07.680><c> the</c>

00:38:07.829 --> 00:38:07.839 align:start position:0%
so you got some experience around the
 

00:38:07.839 --> 00:38:08.870 align:start position:0%
so you got some experience around the
society<00:38:08.320><c> about</c><00:38:08.560><c> how</c>

00:38:08.870 --> 00:38:08.880 align:start position:0%
society about how
 

00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:16.069 align:start position:0%
society about how
how<00:38:09.119><c> it</c><00:38:09.280><c> worked</c><00:38:10.320><c> and</c>

00:38:16.069 --> 00:38:16.079 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:17.910 align:start position:0%
 
i<00:38:16.320><c> try</c><00:38:16.480><c> to</c><00:38:16.560><c> remember</c><00:38:16.800><c> the</c><00:38:17.040><c> year</c><00:38:17.280><c> that</c><00:38:17.440><c> i</c><00:38:17.599><c> got</c>

00:38:17.910 --> 00:38:17.920 align:start position:0%
i try to remember the year that i got
 

00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:19.270 align:start position:0%
i try to remember the year that i got
involved<00:38:18.480><c> in</c><00:38:18.800><c> the</c>

00:38:19.270 --> 00:38:19.280 align:start position:0%
involved in the
 

00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:20.950 align:start position:0%
involved in the
in<00:38:19.440><c> the</c><00:38:19.520><c> magazine</c><00:38:20.000><c> it</c><00:38:20.079><c> was</c><00:38:20.240><c> the</c><00:38:20.320><c> year</c><00:38:20.480><c> before</c><00:38:20.720><c> i</c>

00:38:20.950 --> 00:38:20.960 align:start position:0%
in the magazine it was the year before i
 

00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:22.470 align:start position:0%
in the magazine it was the year before i
went<00:38:21.200><c> to</c><00:38:21.359><c> qut</c><00:38:22.000><c> so</c>

00:38:22.470 --> 00:38:22.480 align:start position:0%
went to qut so
 

00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:26.870 align:start position:0%
went to qut so
it's<00:38:22.640><c> awesome</c><00:38:22.960><c> in</c><00:38:23.119><c> 2009</c><00:38:24.320><c> uh</c><00:38:25.440><c> i</c><00:38:25.599><c> was</c><00:38:25.920><c> sort</c><00:38:26.000><c> of</c>

00:38:26.870 --> 00:38:26.880 align:start position:0%
it's awesome in 2009 uh i was sort of
 

00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:28.310 align:start position:0%
it's awesome in 2009 uh i was sort of
they<00:38:27.119><c> asked</c><00:38:27.280><c> me</c><00:38:27.359><c> if</c><00:38:27.520><c> i'd</c><00:38:27.599><c> be</c><00:38:27.760><c> interested</c><00:38:28.160><c> in</c>

00:38:28.310 --> 00:38:28.320 align:start position:0%
they asked me if i'd be interested in
 

00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:29.910 align:start position:0%
they asked me if i'd be interested in
being<00:38:28.640><c> the</c><00:38:28.880><c> editor-in-chief</c>

00:38:29.910 --> 00:38:29.920 align:start position:0%
being the editor-in-chief
 

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being the editor-in-chief
of<00:38:30.720><c> of</c><00:38:30.880><c> the</c><00:38:31.040><c> magazine</c><00:38:32.400><c> uh</c>

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of of the magazine uh
 

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of of the magazine uh
the<00:38:33.040><c> reason</c><00:38:33.359><c> being</c><00:38:33.520><c> that</c><00:38:33.680><c> stefano's</c>

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the reason being that stefano's
 

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the reason being that stefano's
tremendous<00:38:35.440><c> the</c><00:38:35.599><c> editor-in-chief</c><00:38:36.320><c> of</c><00:38:36.400><c> the</c>

00:38:36.470 --> 00:38:36.480 align:start position:0%
tremendous the editor-in-chief of the
 

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tremendous the editor-in-chief of the
magazine

00:38:37.750 --> 00:38:37.760 align:start position:0%
magazine
 

00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:39.190 align:start position:0%
magazine
he'd<00:38:38.000><c> been</c><00:38:38.240><c> tapped</c><00:38:38.480><c> on</c><00:38:38.640><c> the</c><00:38:38.720><c> shoulder</c><00:38:39.119><c> to</c>

00:38:39.190 --> 00:38:39.200 align:start position:0%
he'd been tapped on the shoulder to
 

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he'd been tapped on the shoulder to
become<00:38:39.760><c> vice</c><00:38:40.160><c> president</c><00:38:40.640><c> of</c><00:38:40.800><c> member</c>

00:38:41.190 --> 00:38:41.200 align:start position:0%
become vice president of member
 

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become vice president of member
activities

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activities
 

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activities
at<00:38:42.400><c> the</c><00:38:42.560><c> end</c><00:38:42.720><c> of</c><00:38:42.800><c> 2009</c><00:38:45.200><c> so</c><00:38:45.440><c> he</c><00:38:45.599><c> had</c><00:38:45.760><c> the</c><00:38:45.839><c> step</c>

00:38:46.630 --> 00:38:46.640 align:start position:0%
at the end of 2009 so he had the step
 

00:38:46.640 --> 00:38:48.790 align:start position:0%
at the end of 2009 so he had the step
he<00:38:46.960><c> was</c><00:38:47.119><c> doing</c><00:38:47.359><c> too</c><00:38:47.599><c> much</c><00:38:47.920><c> he</c><00:38:48.160><c> had</c><00:38:48.400><c> he</c><00:38:48.480><c> had</c>

00:38:48.790 --> 00:38:48.800 align:start position:0%
he was doing too much he had he had
 

00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:50.390 align:start position:0%
he was doing too much he had he had
dropped<00:38:49.119><c> something</c><00:38:49.359><c> so</c><00:38:49.520><c> he</c><00:38:49.760><c> decided</c><00:38:50.160><c> he</c><00:38:50.240><c> would</c>

00:38:50.390 --> 00:38:50.400 align:start position:0%
dropped something so he decided he would
 

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dropped something so he decided he would
step<00:38:50.640><c> down</c>

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step down
 

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step down
and<00:38:51.920><c> there</c><00:38:52.079><c> was</c><00:38:52.160><c> a</c><00:38:52.400><c> search</c><00:38:52.640><c> for</c><00:38:52.720><c> an</c><00:38:52.880><c> editor</c><00:38:53.200><c> and</c>

00:38:53.349 --> 00:38:53.359 align:start position:0%
and there was a search for an editor and
 

00:38:53.359 --> 00:38:54.630 align:start position:0%
and there was a search for an editor and
they<00:38:53.440><c> asked</c><00:38:53.680><c> me</c><00:38:53.760><c> if</c><00:38:53.920><c> i</c><00:38:53.920><c> was</c><00:38:54.079><c> interested</c>

00:38:54.630 --> 00:38:54.640 align:start position:0%
they asked me if i was interested
 

00:38:54.640 --> 00:38:56.950 align:start position:0%
they asked me if i was interested
i<00:38:54.720><c> think</c><00:38:54.880><c> i</c><00:38:55.040><c> initially</c><00:38:55.359><c> said</c><00:38:55.680><c> no</c><00:38:56.400><c> and</c><00:38:56.640><c> i</c><00:38:56.800><c> sort</c>

00:38:56.950 --> 00:38:56.960 align:start position:0%
i think i initially said no and i sort
 

00:38:56.960 --> 00:38:58.230 align:start position:0%
i think i initially said no and i sort
of<00:38:57.119><c> thought</c><00:38:57.359><c> about</c><00:38:57.599><c> it</c><00:38:57.680><c> a</c><00:38:57.760><c> bit</c><00:38:58.000><c> and</c><00:38:58.079><c> thought</c>

00:38:58.230 --> 00:38:58.240 align:start position:0%
of thought about it a bit and thought
 

00:38:58.240 --> 00:38:59.990 align:start position:0%
of thought about it a bit and thought
yeah<00:38:58.480><c> that</c><00:38:58.640><c> could</c><00:38:58.800><c> be</c><00:38:59.040><c> that</c><00:38:59.200><c> could</c><00:38:59.359><c> be</c><00:38:59.440><c> good</c><00:38:59.920><c> i</c>

00:38:59.990 --> 00:39:00.000 align:start position:0%
yeah that could be that could be good i
 

00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:01.829 align:start position:0%
yeah that could be that could be good i
had<00:39:00.240><c> been</c><00:39:00.400><c> on</c><00:39:00.560><c> the</c><00:39:00.640><c> editorial</c><00:39:01.359><c> board</c><00:39:01.599><c> for</c><00:39:01.760><c> the</c>

00:39:01.829 --> 00:39:01.839 align:start position:0%
had been on the editorial board for the
 

00:39:01.839 --> 00:39:02.790 align:start position:0%
had been on the editorial board for the
magazine

00:39:02.790 --> 00:39:02.800 align:start position:0%
magazine
 

00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:04.790 align:start position:0%
magazine
back<00:39:03.040><c> in</c><00:39:03.119><c> the</c><00:39:03.280><c> early</c><00:39:03.599><c> 2000s</c><00:39:04.240><c> i</c><00:39:04.320><c> think</c><00:39:04.560><c> i</c><00:39:04.640><c> think</c>

00:39:04.790 --> 00:39:04.800 align:start position:0%
back in the early 2000s i think i think
 

00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:05.829 align:start position:0%
back in the early 2000s i think i think
i<00:39:04.880><c> served</c><00:39:05.119><c> two</c><00:39:05.359><c> terms</c>

00:39:05.829 --> 00:39:05.839 align:start position:0%
i served two terms
 

00:39:05.839 --> 00:39:08.870 align:start position:0%
i served two terms
as<00:39:06.320><c> a</c><00:39:06.480><c> member</c><00:39:06.720><c> of</c><00:39:06.800><c> the</c><00:39:06.880><c> editorial</c><00:39:07.920><c> board</c><00:39:08.560><c> or</c><00:39:08.720><c> as</c>

00:39:08.870 --> 00:39:08.880 align:start position:0%
as a member of the editorial board or as
 

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as a member of the editorial board or as
an<00:39:08.960><c> associate</c><00:39:09.440><c> editor</c>

00:39:10.390 --> 00:39:10.400 align:start position:0%
an associate editor
 

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an associate editor
is<00:39:10.880><c> the</c><00:39:11.040><c> correct</c><00:39:11.359><c> notation</c><00:39:13.040><c> for</c><00:39:13.200><c> the</c><00:39:13.280><c> magazine</c>

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is the correct notation for the magazine
 

00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:15.190 align:start position:0%
is the correct notation for the magazine
so<00:39:14.160><c> i</c><00:39:14.240><c> had</c><00:39:14.400><c> some</c><00:39:14.640><c> experience</c><00:39:15.040><c> with</c><00:39:15.119><c> the</c>

00:39:15.190 --> 00:39:15.200 align:start position:0%
so i had some experience with the
 

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so i had some experience with the
magazines<00:39:15.760><c> had</c><00:39:15.920><c> soft</c><00:39:16.079><c> spot</c><00:39:16.320><c> for</c><00:39:16.400><c> the</c><00:39:16.480><c> magazine</c>

00:39:16.950 --> 00:39:16.960 align:start position:0%
magazines had soft spot for the magazine
 

00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:18.069 align:start position:0%
magazines had soft spot for the magazine
so<00:39:17.119><c> yeah</c><00:39:17.280><c> it</c><00:39:17.280><c> was</c><00:39:17.520><c> a</c>

00:39:18.069 --> 00:39:18.079 align:start position:0%
so yeah it was a
 

00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:23.510 align:start position:0%
so yeah it was a
delight<00:39:18.560><c> to</c><00:39:19.359><c> uh</c><00:39:20.000><c> work</c><00:39:20.240><c> as</c><00:39:20.480><c> as</c><00:39:20.720><c> editor-in-chief</c>

00:39:23.510 --> 00:39:23.520 align:start position:0%
delight to uh work as as editor-in-chief
 

00:39:23.520 --> 00:39:25.589 align:start position:0%
delight to uh work as as editor-in-chief
and<00:39:23.760><c> uh</c><00:39:24.000><c> what</c><00:39:24.160><c> were</c><00:39:24.320><c> your</c><00:39:24.640><c> uh</c><00:39:25.040><c> sort</c><00:39:25.280><c> of</c><00:39:25.359><c> most</c>

00:39:25.589 --> 00:39:25.599 align:start position:0%
and uh what were your uh sort of most
 

00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:30.870 align:start position:0%
and uh what were your uh sort of most
accomplished<00:39:26.839><c> issues</c>

00:39:30.870 --> 00:39:30.880 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:33.990 align:start position:0%
 
i<00:39:31.040><c> think</c><00:39:31.280><c> there's</c><00:39:32.880><c> a</c><00:39:33.040><c> few</c><00:39:33.280><c> things</c><00:39:33.520><c> that</c><00:39:33.680><c> i'm</c>

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i think there's a few things that i'm
 

00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:35.109 align:start position:0%
i think there's a few things that i'm
proud<00:39:34.240><c> of</c><00:39:34.400><c> the</c><00:39:34.480><c> magazine</c>

00:39:35.109 --> 00:39:35.119 align:start position:0%
proud of the magazine
 

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proud of the magazine
one<00:39:35.280><c> was</c><00:39:35.520><c> moving</c><00:39:35.760><c> it</c><00:39:35.839><c> to</c><00:39:36.160><c> electronic</c><00:39:36.640><c> delivery</c>

00:39:37.430 --> 00:39:37.440 align:start position:0%
one was moving it to electronic delivery
 

00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:38.150 align:start position:0%
one was moving it to electronic delivery
it<00:39:37.520><c> was</c><00:39:37.680><c> something</c>

00:39:38.150 --> 00:39:38.160 align:start position:0%
it was something
 

00:39:38.160 --> 00:39:41.589 align:start position:0%
it was something
i<00:39:38.400><c> think</c><00:39:40.720><c> was</c><00:39:40.880><c> important</c><00:39:41.200><c> to</c><00:39:41.359><c> a</c><00:39:41.359><c> lot</c><00:39:41.520><c> of</c>

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i think was important to a lot of
 

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i think was important to a lot of
members

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members
 

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members
you<00:39:42.720><c> know</c><00:39:42.880><c> around</c><00:39:43.040><c> that</c><00:39:43.280><c> time</c><00:39:43.520><c> you</c><00:39:43.599><c> know</c>

00:39:43.670 --> 00:39:43.680 align:start position:0%
you know around that time you know
 

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you know around that time you know
everyone<00:39:44.160><c> started</c><00:39:44.960><c> tablet</c><00:39:45.440><c> tablet</c><00:39:45.760><c> computers</c>

00:39:46.150 --> 00:39:46.160 align:start position:0%
everyone started tablet tablet computers
 

00:39:46.160 --> 00:39:47.829 align:start position:0%
everyone started tablet tablet computers
suddenly<00:39:46.560><c> appeared</c><00:39:46.960><c> right</c><00:39:47.200><c> the</c><00:39:47.359><c> telematics</c>

00:39:47.829 --> 00:39:47.839 align:start position:0%
suddenly appeared right the telematics
 

00:39:47.839 --> 00:39:49.270 align:start position:0%
suddenly appeared right the telematics
is<00:39:47.920><c> the</c><00:39:48.000><c> marvelous</c>

00:39:49.270 --> 00:39:49.280 align:start position:0%
is the marvelous
 

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is the marvelous
means<00:39:49.599><c> to</c><00:39:49.760><c> read</c><00:39:50.000><c> a</c><00:39:50.079><c> magazine</c><00:39:50.880><c> so</c><00:39:51.040><c> it</c><00:39:51.200><c> seemed</c>

00:39:51.430 --> 00:39:51.440 align:start position:0%
means to read a magazine so it seemed
 

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means to read a magazine so it seemed
really<00:39:51.680><c> timely</c><00:39:52.000><c> that</c><00:39:52.160><c> we</c><00:39:52.240><c> should</c><00:39:52.400><c> have</c><00:39:52.560><c> the</c>

00:39:52.630 --> 00:39:52.640 align:start position:0%
really timely that we should have the
 

00:39:52.640 --> 00:39:53.910 align:start position:0%
really timely that we should have the
magazine<00:39:53.200><c> coming</c><00:39:53.520><c> out</c>

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magazine coming out
 

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magazine coming out
electronically<00:39:54.800><c> so</c><00:39:54.960><c> you</c><00:39:55.119><c> just</c><00:39:55.280><c> download</c><00:39:56.560><c> the</c>

00:39:56.710 --> 00:39:56.720 align:start position:0%
electronically so you just download the
 

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electronically so you just download the
file<00:39:57.040><c> and</c>

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file and
 

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file and
browse<00:39:57.839><c> it</c><00:39:58.000><c> on</c><00:39:58.079><c> your</c><00:39:58.960><c> browser</c><00:39:59.280><c> on</c><00:39:59.440><c> your</c><00:39:59.520><c> tablet</c>

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browse it on your browser on your tablet
 

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browse it on your browser on your tablet
i<00:40:01.599><c> think</c><00:40:01.760><c> the</c><00:40:01.839><c> magazine</c><00:40:02.320><c> had</c><00:40:02.480><c> struggled</c><00:40:02.880><c> for</c><00:40:02.960><c> a</c>

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i think the magazine had struggled for a
 

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i think the magazine had struggled for a
long<00:40:03.280><c> time</c><00:40:03.599><c> to</c><00:40:04.000><c> work</c><00:40:04.319><c> out</c>

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long time to work out
 

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long time to work out
quite<00:40:05.440><c> what</c><00:40:05.680><c> it</c><00:40:05.839><c> was</c><00:40:06.319><c> it's</c><00:40:06.720><c> not</c><00:40:06.960><c> exactly</c><00:40:07.359><c> a</c>

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quite what it was it's not exactly a
 

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quite what it was it's not exactly a
trade<00:40:07.760><c> magazine</c>

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trade magazine
 

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trade magazine
it's<00:40:09.119><c> not</c><00:40:09.359><c> exactly</c><00:40:09.839><c> a</c><00:40:10.000><c> transactions</c><00:40:11.440><c> uh</c>

00:40:12.870 --> 00:40:12.880 align:start position:0%
it's not exactly a transactions uh
 

00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:16.630 align:start position:0%
it's not exactly a transactions uh
and<00:40:15.280><c> you</c><00:40:15.359><c> know</c><00:40:15.520><c> it's</c>

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and you know it's
 

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and you know it's
yeah<00:40:16.880><c> it's</c><00:40:17.040><c> it's</c><00:40:17.280><c> it's</c><00:40:17.599><c> it's</c><00:40:17.760><c> a</c><00:40:17.920><c> it's</c><00:40:18.079><c> a</c><00:40:18.400><c> it's</c>

00:40:18.550 --> 00:40:18.560 align:start position:0%
yeah it's it's it's it's a it's a it's
 

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yeah it's it's it's it's a it's a it's
an<00:40:18.720><c> odd</c><00:40:18.880><c> beast</c>

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an odd beast
 

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an odd beast
and<00:40:21.440><c> that</c><00:40:21.599><c> was</c><00:40:21.760><c> initially</c><00:40:22.240><c> i</c><00:40:22.319><c> think</c><00:40:22.480><c> the</c>

00:40:22.550 --> 00:40:22.560 align:start position:0%
and that was initially i think the
 

00:40:22.560 --> 00:40:23.510 align:start position:0%
and that was initially i think the
reason<00:40:22.880><c> why</c><00:40:23.040><c> i</c><00:40:23.200><c> said</c>

00:40:23.510 --> 00:40:23.520 align:start position:0%
reason why i said
 

00:40:23.520 --> 00:40:26.150 align:start position:0%
reason why i said
no<00:40:24.240><c> uh</c><00:40:24.560><c> to</c><00:40:24.720><c> becoming</c><00:40:25.119><c> editor-in-chief</c><00:40:25.839><c> and</c><00:40:26.000><c> i</c>

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no uh to becoming editor-in-chief and i
 

00:40:26.160 --> 00:40:27.910 align:start position:0%
no uh to becoming editor-in-chief and i
sort<00:40:26.319><c> of</c><00:40:26.400><c> thought</c><00:40:26.640><c> about</c><00:40:26.960><c> it</c><00:40:27.119><c> a</c><00:40:27.200><c> bit</c>

00:40:27.910 --> 00:40:27.920 align:start position:0%
sort of thought about it a bit
 

00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:31.190 align:start position:0%
sort of thought about it a bit
and<00:40:28.079><c> thought</c><00:40:28.720><c> it</c><00:40:28.960><c> really</c>

00:40:31.190 --> 00:40:31.200 align:start position:0%
and thought it really
 

00:40:31.200 --> 00:40:33.670 align:start position:0%
and thought it really
it<00:40:31.440><c> really</c><00:40:31.680><c> should</c><00:40:31.839><c> be</c><00:40:31.920><c> a</c><00:40:32.000><c> magazine</c><00:40:33.040><c> and</c><00:40:33.200><c> not</c><00:40:33.440><c> a</c>

00:40:33.670 --> 00:40:33.680 align:start position:0%
it really should be a magazine and not a
 

00:40:33.680 --> 00:40:34.870 align:start position:0%
it really should be a magazine and not a
not<00:40:34.000><c> a</c>

00:40:34.870 --> 00:40:34.880 align:start position:0%
not a
 

00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:36.870 align:start position:0%
not a
a<00:40:35.040><c> transactions</c><00:40:35.839><c> light</c><00:40:36.160><c> or</c><00:40:36.319><c> anything</c><00:40:36.640><c> like</c>

00:40:36.870 --> 00:40:36.880 align:start position:0%
a transactions light or anything like
 

00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:38.710 align:start position:0%
a transactions light or anything like
that<00:40:37.280><c> so</c><00:40:37.920><c> it</c><00:40:38.000><c> was</c><00:40:38.319><c> one</c>

00:40:38.710 --> 00:40:38.720 align:start position:0%
that so it was one
 

00:40:38.720 --> 00:40:41.430 align:start position:0%
that so it was one
push<00:40:39.119><c> probably</c><00:40:39.440><c> all</c><00:40:39.599><c> through</c><00:40:40.079><c> my</c><00:40:40.720><c> editorship</c>

00:40:41.430 --> 00:40:41.440 align:start position:0%
push probably all through my editorship
 

00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:42.230 align:start position:0%
push probably all through my editorship
was

00:40:42.230 --> 00:40:42.240 align:start position:0%
was
 

00:40:42.240 --> 00:40:44.069 align:start position:0%
was
i<00:40:42.400><c> used</c><00:40:42.640><c> this</c><00:40:42.800><c> word</c><00:40:43.119><c> magazine</c><00:40:43.760><c> i</c><00:40:43.839><c> wanted</c><00:40:44.000><c> to</c>

00:40:44.069 --> 00:40:44.079 align:start position:0%
i used this word magazine i wanted to
 

00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:45.990 align:start position:0%
i used this word magazine i wanted to
make<00:40:44.240><c> it</c><00:40:44.400><c> more</c><00:40:44.560><c> magaziney</c>

00:40:45.990 --> 00:40:46.000 align:start position:0%
make it more magaziney
 

00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:47.510 align:start position:0%
make it more magaziney
and<00:40:46.319><c> the</c><00:40:46.400><c> production</c><00:40:46.880><c> people</c><00:40:47.119><c> didn't</c><00:40:47.359><c> like</c>

00:40:47.510 --> 00:40:47.520 align:start position:0%
and the production people didn't like
 

00:40:47.520 --> 00:40:49.430 align:start position:0%
and the production people didn't like
the<00:40:47.680><c> word</c><00:40:48.000><c> magazine</c><00:40:48.720><c> but</c><00:40:48.960><c> i</c>

00:40:49.430 --> 00:40:49.440 align:start position:0%
the word magazine but i
 

00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:53.349 align:start position:0%
the word magazine but i
i<00:40:49.920><c> i</c><00:40:50.079><c> stuck</c><00:40:50.400><c> with</c><00:40:50.839><c> that</c><00:40:52.000><c> and</c>

00:40:53.349 --> 00:40:53.359 align:start position:0%
i i stuck with that and
 

00:40:53.359 --> 00:40:57.109 align:start position:0%
i i stuck with that and
so<00:40:53.839><c> my</c><00:40:54.079><c> criteria</c><00:40:54.640><c> for</c><00:40:54.800><c> an</c><00:40:54.960><c> article</c><00:40:55.440><c> really</c><00:40:55.839><c> was</c>

00:40:57.109 --> 00:40:57.119 align:start position:0%
so my criteria for an article really was
 

00:40:57.119 --> 00:40:59.589 align:start position:0%
so my criteria for an article really was
is<00:40:57.359><c> it</c><00:40:57.920><c> if</c><00:40:58.079><c> i</c><00:40:58.160><c> was</c><00:40:58.400><c> a</c><00:40:58.560><c> reader</c><00:40:59.040><c> would</c><00:40:59.200><c> i</c><00:40:59.359><c> find</c>

00:40:59.589 --> 00:40:59.599 align:start position:0%
is it if i was a reader would i find
 

00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:02.069 align:start position:0%
is it if i was a reader would i find
this<00:40:59.839><c> an</c><00:41:00.000><c> interesting</c><00:41:00.480><c> article</c><00:41:00.960><c> to</c><00:41:01.119><c> read</c>

00:41:02.069 --> 00:41:02.079 align:start position:0%
this an interesting article to read
 

00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:05.430 align:start position:0%
this an interesting article to read
and<00:41:02.400><c> a</c><00:41:02.480><c> lot</c><00:41:02.640><c> of</c><00:41:02.800><c> the</c><00:41:04.319><c> when</c><00:41:04.480><c> you</c><00:41:04.640><c> say</c><00:41:04.960><c> an</c><00:41:05.119><c> article</c>

00:41:05.430 --> 00:41:05.440 align:start position:0%
and a lot of the when you say an article
 

00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:06.069 align:start position:0%
and a lot of the when you say an article
comes<00:41:05.760><c> in</c>

00:41:06.069 --> 00:41:06.079 align:start position:0%
comes in
 

00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:08.550 align:start position:0%
comes in
and<00:41:06.480><c> most</c><00:41:06.720><c> people</c><00:41:06.960><c> in</c><00:41:07.119><c> this</c><00:41:07.280><c> community</c><00:41:08.160><c> write</c>

00:41:08.550 --> 00:41:08.560 align:start position:0%
and most people in this community write
 

00:41:08.560 --> 00:41:10.550 align:start position:0%
and most people in this community write
articles<00:41:09.200><c> like</c><00:41:09.359><c> the</c><00:41:09.520><c> transaction</c><00:41:10.079><c> articles</c>

00:41:10.550 --> 00:41:10.560 align:start position:0%
articles like the transaction articles
 

00:41:10.560 --> 00:41:11.829 align:start position:0%
articles like the transaction articles
and<00:41:10.640><c> they're</c><00:41:10.800><c> quite</c><00:41:11.119><c> formal</c><00:41:11.520><c> they've</c><00:41:11.599><c> got</c><00:41:11.760><c> a</c>

00:41:11.829 --> 00:41:11.839 align:start position:0%
and they're quite formal they've got a
 

00:41:11.839 --> 00:41:13.270 align:start position:0%
and they're quite formal they've got a
lot<00:41:12.000><c> of</c><00:41:12.079><c> maths</c><00:41:12.480><c> in</c><00:41:12.640><c> them</c>

00:41:13.270 --> 00:41:13.280 align:start position:0%
lot of maths in them
 

00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:14.870 align:start position:0%
lot of maths in them
for<00:41:13.440><c> magazine</c><00:41:13.839><c> you</c><00:41:13.920><c> don't</c><00:41:14.079><c> want</c><00:41:14.319><c> that</c><00:41:14.560><c> i</c><00:41:14.720><c> want</c>

00:41:14.870 --> 00:41:14.880 align:start position:0%
for magazine you don't want that i want
 

00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:17.589 align:start position:0%
for magazine you don't want that i want
an<00:41:15.119><c> article</c><00:41:15.839><c> that</c><00:41:16.000><c> tells</c><00:41:16.400><c> a</c><00:41:16.480><c> story</c>

00:41:17.589 --> 00:41:17.599 align:start position:0%
an article that tells a story
 

00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:20.390 align:start position:0%
an article that tells a story
that's<00:41:18.880><c> got</c><00:41:19.119><c> quite</c><00:41:19.280><c> a</c><00:41:19.359><c> lot</c><00:41:19.520><c> of</c><00:41:19.680><c> good</c><00:41:19.920><c> graphics</c>

00:41:20.390 --> 00:41:20.400 align:start position:0%
that's got quite a lot of good graphics
 

00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:21.589 align:start position:0%
that's got quite a lot of good graphics
or<00:41:20.880><c> pictures</c>

00:41:21.589 --> 00:41:21.599 align:start position:0%
or pictures
 

00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:23.750 align:start position:0%
or pictures
or<00:41:22.000><c> whatever</c><00:41:22.960><c> and</c><00:41:23.119><c> i</c><00:41:23.200><c> think</c><00:41:23.359><c> people</c><00:41:23.599><c> in</c><00:41:23.680><c> this</c>

00:41:23.750 --> 00:41:23.760 align:start position:0%
or whatever and i think people in this
 

00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:25.750 align:start position:0%
or whatever and i think people in this
community<00:41:24.160><c> feel</c><00:41:24.400><c> uncomfortable</c><00:41:25.119><c> writing</c>

00:41:25.750 --> 00:41:25.760 align:start position:0%
community feel uncomfortable writing
 

00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:28.069 align:start position:0%
community feel uncomfortable writing
like<00:41:26.000><c> that</c><00:41:26.319><c> i</c><00:41:26.720><c> my</c><00:41:26.960><c> theory</c><00:41:27.359><c> is</c><00:41:27.520><c> that</c><00:41:27.599><c> they</c><00:41:27.839><c> use</c>

00:41:28.069 --> 00:41:28.079 align:start position:0%
like that i my theory is that they use
 

00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:29.670 align:start position:0%
like that i my theory is that they use
the<00:41:28.240><c> formulas</c><00:41:28.720><c> and</c><00:41:28.800><c> the</c><00:41:28.960><c> maths</c><00:41:29.280><c> as</c>

00:41:29.670 --> 00:41:29.680 align:start position:0%
the formulas and the maths as
 

00:41:29.680 --> 00:41:32.710 align:start position:0%
the formulas and the maths as
some<00:41:29.920><c> kind</c><00:41:30.240><c> of</c><00:41:30.800><c> shield</c><00:41:32.240><c> to</c>

00:41:32.710 --> 00:41:32.720 align:start position:0%
some kind of shield to
 

00:41:32.720 --> 00:41:35.190 align:start position:0%
some kind of shield to
ward<00:41:33.040><c> off</c><00:41:33.200><c> the</c><00:41:33.359><c> blows</c><00:41:33.760><c> of</c><00:41:33.839><c> the</c><00:41:34.000><c> reviewers</c><00:41:35.040><c> so</c>

00:41:35.190 --> 00:41:35.200 align:start position:0%
ward off the blows of the reviewers so
 

00:41:35.200 --> 00:41:36.550 align:start position:0%
ward off the blows of the reviewers so
the<00:41:35.280><c> first</c><00:41:35.440><c> thing</c><00:41:35.599><c> was</c><00:41:35.760><c> to</c><00:41:35.920><c> try</c><00:41:36.079><c> and</c><00:41:36.160><c> convince</c>

00:41:36.550 --> 00:41:36.560 align:start position:0%
the first thing was to try and convince
 

00:41:36.560 --> 00:41:38.150 align:start position:0%
the first thing was to try and convince
people<00:41:36.880><c> that</c><00:41:37.040><c> it's</c><00:41:37.280><c> okay</c><00:41:37.599><c> to</c><00:41:37.760><c> write</c>

00:41:38.150 --> 00:41:38.160 align:start position:0%
people that it's okay to write
 

00:41:38.160 --> 00:41:42.150 align:start position:0%
people that it's okay to write
an<00:41:38.400><c> article</c><00:41:38.720><c> like</c><00:41:38.960><c> that</c><00:41:40.240><c> that's</c><00:41:40.720><c> readable</c><00:41:41.200><c> by</c>

00:41:42.150 --> 00:41:42.160 align:start position:0%
an article like that that's readable by
 

00:41:42.160 --> 00:41:43.990 align:start position:0%
an article like that that's readable by
somebody<00:41:42.640><c> who's</c><00:41:43.119><c> not</c><00:41:43.359><c> in</c><00:41:43.440><c> your</c><00:41:43.680><c> narrow</c>

00:41:43.990 --> 00:41:44.000 align:start position:0%
somebody who's not in your narrow
 

00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:45.829 align:start position:0%
somebody who's not in your narrow
technical<00:41:44.400><c> area</c><00:41:44.880><c> so</c><00:41:45.040><c> someone</c><00:41:45.359><c> who</c>

00:41:45.829 --> 00:41:45.839 align:start position:0%
technical area so someone who
 

00:41:45.839 --> 00:41:48.870 align:start position:0%
technical area so someone who
got<00:41:46.000><c> some</c><00:41:46.160><c> technical</c><00:41:46.839><c> background</c><00:41:48.560><c> but</c><00:41:48.800><c> you</c>

00:41:48.870 --> 00:41:48.880 align:start position:0%
got some technical background but you
 

00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:50.550 align:start position:0%
got some technical background but you
know<00:41:49.040><c> not</c><00:41:49.200><c> in</c><00:41:49.280><c> your</c><00:41:49.440><c> specific</c><00:41:49.920><c> area</c>

00:41:50.550 --> 00:41:50.560 align:start position:0%
know not in your specific area
 

00:41:50.560 --> 00:41:51.510 align:start position:0%
know not in your specific area
and<00:41:50.720><c> the</c><00:41:50.880><c> other</c><00:41:50.960><c> thing</c><00:41:51.119><c> then</c><00:41:51.359><c> is</c><00:41:51.440><c> the</c>

00:41:51.510 --> 00:41:51.520 align:start position:0%
and the other thing then is the
 

00:41:51.520 --> 00:41:54.150 align:start position:0%
and the other thing then is the
reviewers<00:41:52.800><c> and</c><00:41:53.040><c> the</c><00:41:53.119><c> reviewers</c><00:41:53.680><c> are</c><00:41:53.839><c> also</c>

00:41:54.150 --> 00:41:54.160 align:start position:0%
reviewers and the reviewers are also
 

00:41:54.160 --> 00:41:55.109 align:start position:0%
reviewers and the reviewers are also
trained<00:41:54.560><c> to</c>

00:41:55.109 --> 00:41:55.119 align:start position:0%
trained to
 

00:41:55.119 --> 00:41:57.670 align:start position:0%
trained to
you<00:41:55.200><c> know</c><00:41:55.440><c> attack</c><00:41:56.480><c> any</c><00:41:56.720><c> paper</c><00:41:57.040><c> that's</c><00:41:57.440><c> that's</c>

00:41:57.670 --> 00:41:57.680 align:start position:0%
you know attack any paper that's that's
 

00:41:57.680 --> 00:41:59.030 align:start position:0%
you know attack any paper that's that's
presented<00:41:58.160><c> to</c><00:41:58.240><c> them</c><00:41:58.400><c> and</c><00:41:58.480><c> the</c><00:41:58.640><c> most</c><00:41:58.800><c> common</c>

00:41:59.030 --> 00:41:59.040 align:start position:0%
presented to them and the most common
 

00:41:59.040 --> 00:42:01.030 align:start position:0%
presented to them and the most common
criticism<00:41:59.599><c> from</c><00:41:59.839><c> reviewers</c><00:42:00.319><c> is</c><00:42:00.400><c> always</c>

00:42:01.030 --> 00:42:01.040 align:start position:0%
criticism from reviewers is always
 

00:42:01.040 --> 00:42:04.150 align:start position:0%
criticism from reviewers is always
no<00:42:01.200><c> contribution</c><00:42:02.880><c> and</c><00:42:03.280><c> it's</c><00:42:03.760><c> something</c><00:42:04.079><c> you</c>

00:42:04.150 --> 00:42:04.160 align:start position:0%
no contribution and it's something you
 

00:42:04.160 --> 00:42:05.670 align:start position:0%
no contribution and it's something you
really<00:42:04.400><c> can't</c><00:42:04.640><c> refute</c><00:42:05.040><c> if</c>

00:42:05.670 --> 00:42:05.680 align:start position:0%
really can't refute if
 

00:42:05.680 --> 00:42:07.430 align:start position:0%
really can't refute if
for<00:42:05.920><c> transactions</c><00:42:06.560><c> if</c><00:42:06.720><c> the</c><00:42:06.880><c> reviewer</c><00:42:07.280><c> says</c>

00:42:07.430 --> 00:42:07.440 align:start position:0%
for transactions if the reviewer says
 

00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:10.230 align:start position:0%
for transactions if the reviewer says
there's<00:42:07.599><c> no</c><00:42:07.760><c> contribution</c><00:42:08.480><c> here</c><00:42:08.720><c> no</c><00:42:08.960><c> novelty</c>

00:42:10.230 --> 00:42:10.240 align:start position:0%
there's no contribution here no novelty
 

00:42:10.240 --> 00:42:11.750 align:start position:0%
there's no contribution here no novelty
then<00:42:10.480><c> doesn't</c><00:42:10.720><c> get</c><00:42:10.880><c> up</c><00:42:11.119><c> it</c><00:42:11.200><c> doesn't</c><00:42:11.440><c> go</c><00:42:11.520><c> into</c>

00:42:11.750 --> 00:42:11.760 align:start position:0%
then doesn't get up it doesn't go into
 

00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:13.270 align:start position:0%
then doesn't get up it doesn't go into
the<00:42:11.839><c> transactions</c><00:42:12.560><c> but</c>

00:42:13.270 --> 00:42:13.280 align:start position:0%
the transactions but
 

00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:15.349 align:start position:0%
the transactions but
magazine<00:42:13.760><c> i</c><00:42:13.839><c> don't</c><00:42:14.000><c> think</c><00:42:14.160><c> it</c><00:42:14.319><c> matters</c><00:42:15.200><c> if</c>

00:42:15.349 --> 00:42:15.359 align:start position:0%
magazine i don't think it matters if
 

00:42:15.359 --> 00:42:17.670 align:start position:0%
magazine i don't think it matters if
someone<00:42:15.599><c> else</c><00:42:15.839><c> has</c><00:42:16.000><c> done</c><00:42:16.160><c> it</c><00:42:16.319><c> before</c>

00:42:17.670 --> 00:42:17.680 align:start position:0%
someone else has done it before
 

00:42:17.680 --> 00:42:19.430 align:start position:0%
someone else has done it before
that's<00:42:18.000><c> okay</c><00:42:18.319><c> but</c><00:42:18.480><c> if</c><00:42:18.560><c> someone</c><00:42:18.960><c> can</c><00:42:19.119><c> tell</c><00:42:19.359><c> the</c>

00:42:19.430 --> 00:42:19.440 align:start position:0%
that's okay but if someone can tell the
 

00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:20.870 align:start position:0%
that's okay but if someone can tell the
story<00:42:19.920><c> really</c><00:42:20.160><c> well</c>

00:42:20.870 --> 00:42:20.880 align:start position:0%
story really well
 

00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:23.349 align:start position:0%
story really well
you<00:42:20.960><c> know</c><00:42:21.359><c> nice</c><00:42:21.680><c> words</c><00:42:22.160><c> explain</c><00:42:22.560><c> it</c><00:42:22.960><c> explain</c>

00:42:23.349 --> 00:42:23.359 align:start position:0%
you know nice words explain it explain
 

00:42:23.359 --> 00:42:24.390 align:start position:0%
you know nice words explain it explain
it<00:42:23.520><c> adequately</c>

00:42:24.390 --> 00:42:24.400 align:start position:0%
it adequately
 

00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:27.109 align:start position:0%
it adequately
it's<00:42:24.560><c> got</c><00:42:24.720><c> some</c><00:42:24.880><c> good</c><00:42:25.040><c> images</c><00:42:26.480><c> i</c><00:42:26.640><c> don't</c><00:42:26.800><c> care</c>

00:42:27.109 --> 00:42:27.119 align:start position:0%
it's got some good images i don't care
 

00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:28.950 align:start position:0%
it's got some good images i don't care
is<00:42:27.200><c> it</c><00:42:27.280><c> a</c><00:42:27.359><c> good</c><00:42:27.599><c> story</c><00:42:27.920><c> for</c><00:42:28.079><c> the</c><00:42:28.240><c> reader</c>

00:42:28.950 --> 00:42:28.960 align:start position:0%
is it a good story for the reader
 

00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:31.270 align:start position:0%
is it a good story for the reader
so<00:42:29.119><c> i</c><00:42:29.280><c> tried</c><00:42:29.440><c> to</c><00:42:29.599><c> turn</c><00:42:30.240><c> turn</c><00:42:30.720><c> around</c><00:42:31.200><c> if</c>

00:42:31.270 --> 00:42:31.280 align:start position:0%
so i tried to turn turn around if
 

00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:32.710 align:start position:0%
so i tried to turn turn around if
reviewers<00:42:31.760><c> came</c><00:42:32.000><c> back</c><00:42:32.240><c> and</c><00:42:32.319><c> said</c><00:42:32.560><c> no</c>

00:42:32.710 --> 00:42:32.720 align:start position:0%
reviewers came back and said no
 

00:42:32.720 --> 00:42:34.470 align:start position:0%
reviewers came back and said no
contribution<00:42:33.359><c> then</c><00:42:33.599><c> i'd</c>

00:42:34.470 --> 00:42:34.480 align:start position:0%
contribution then i'd
 

00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:36.309 align:start position:0%
contribution then i'd
say<00:42:34.720><c> likely</c><00:42:35.119><c> that's</c><00:42:35.440><c> that's</c><00:42:35.680><c> not</c><00:42:35.839><c> a</c><00:42:36.000><c> valid</c>

00:42:36.309 --> 00:42:36.319 align:start position:0%
say likely that's that's not a valid
 

00:42:36.319 --> 00:42:38.550 align:start position:0%
say likely that's that's not a valid
criticism<00:42:36.800><c> for</c><00:42:36.960><c> the</c><00:42:37.040><c> magazine</c>

00:42:38.550 --> 00:42:38.560 align:start position:0%
criticism for the magazine
 

00:42:38.560 --> 00:42:41.190 align:start position:0%
criticism for the magazine
it<00:42:38.720><c> took</c><00:42:38.960><c> a</c><00:42:39.040><c> while</c><00:42:39.280><c> i</c><00:42:39.359><c> think</c><00:42:39.680><c> for</c><00:42:40.480><c> reviewers</c><00:42:41.040><c> to</c>

00:42:41.190 --> 00:42:41.200 align:start position:0%
it took a while i think for reviewers to
 

00:42:41.200 --> 00:42:43.030 align:start position:0%
it took a while i think for reviewers to
understand<00:42:41.599><c> what</c><00:42:41.760><c> the</c><00:42:41.839><c> magazine</c><00:42:42.400><c> wanted</c>

00:42:43.030 --> 00:42:43.040 align:start position:0%
understand what the magazine wanted
 

00:42:43.040 --> 00:42:45.750 align:start position:0%
understand what the magazine wanted
to<00:42:43.200><c> quarrel</c><00:42:43.680><c> for</c><00:42:44.560><c> authors</c><00:42:45.040><c> to</c><00:42:45.200><c> understand</c>

00:42:45.750 --> 00:42:45.760 align:start position:0%
to quarrel for authors to understand
 

00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:47.589 align:start position:0%
to quarrel for authors to understand
what<00:42:45.920><c> the</c><00:42:46.079><c> magazine</c><00:42:46.640><c> wanted</c>

00:42:47.589 --> 00:42:47.599 align:start position:0%
what the magazine wanted
 

00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:50.069 align:start position:0%
what the magazine wanted
i'm<00:42:47.760><c> not</c><00:42:47.920><c> sure</c><00:42:48.240><c> we're</c><00:42:48.560><c> completely</c><00:42:49.440><c> completely</c>

00:42:50.069 --> 00:42:50.079 align:start position:0%
i'm not sure we're completely completely
 

00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:51.829 align:start position:0%
i'm not sure we're completely completely
there<00:42:50.400><c> yet</c><00:42:50.640><c> but</c><00:42:50.880><c> i</c><00:42:50.960><c> think</c>

00:42:51.829 --> 00:42:51.839 align:start position:0%
there yet but i think
 

00:42:51.839 --> 00:42:55.109 align:start position:0%
there yet but i think
kind<00:42:52.079><c> of</c><00:42:52.480><c> pushed</c><00:42:52.880><c> the</c><00:42:53.119><c> thing</c><00:42:54.560><c> more</c><00:42:54.800><c> towards</c>

00:42:55.109 --> 00:42:55.119 align:start position:0%
kind of pushed the thing more towards
 

00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:56.790 align:start position:0%
kind of pushed the thing more towards
being<00:42:55.280><c> a</c><00:42:55.359><c> magazine</c><00:42:55.839><c> and</c><00:42:56.000><c> less</c>

00:42:56.790 --> 00:42:56.800 align:start position:0%
being a magazine and less
 

00:42:56.800 --> 00:42:59.990 align:start position:0%
being a magazine and less
being<00:42:57.359><c> transit</c><00:42:58.160><c> transactions</c>

00:42:59.990 --> 00:43:00.000 align:start position:0%
being transit transactions
 

00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:02.150 align:start position:0%
being transit transactions
the<00:43:00.160><c> other</c><00:43:00.400><c> thing</c><00:43:00.640><c> that</c><00:43:01.599><c> i</c><00:43:01.760><c> thought</c><00:43:01.920><c> was</c>

00:43:02.150 --> 00:43:02.160 align:start position:0%
the other thing that i thought was
 

00:43:02.160 --> 00:43:04.309 align:start position:0%
the other thing that i thought was
important<00:43:02.560><c> magazine</c><00:43:02.960><c> was</c><00:43:03.280><c> columns</c>

00:43:04.309 --> 00:43:04.319 align:start position:0%
important magazine was columns
 

00:43:04.319 --> 00:43:07.430 align:start position:0%
important magazine was columns
so<00:43:05.440><c> some</c><00:43:05.680><c> regular</c><00:43:06.240><c> columns</c><00:43:06.960><c> uh</c>

00:43:07.430 --> 00:43:07.440 align:start position:0%
so some regular columns uh
 

00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:09.510 align:start position:0%
so some regular columns uh
in<00:43:07.599><c> the</c><00:43:07.680><c> magazine</c><00:43:08.319><c> too</c><00:43:08.720><c> just</c><00:43:08.880><c> to</c><00:43:09.040><c> lighten</c><00:43:09.440><c> the</c>

00:43:09.510 --> 00:43:09.520 align:start position:0%
in the magazine too just to lighten the
 

00:43:09.520 --> 00:43:10.870 align:start position:0%
in the magazine too just to lighten the
mix<00:43:09.760><c> a</c><00:43:09.839><c> little</c><00:43:10.000><c> bit</c><00:43:10.240><c> so</c>

00:43:10.870 --> 00:43:10.880 align:start position:0%
mix a little bit so
 

00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:13.109 align:start position:0%
mix a little bit so
there<00:43:11.040><c> was</c><00:43:11.359><c> the</c><00:43:11.520><c> ross</c><00:43:11.839><c> column</c><00:43:12.240><c> which</c><00:43:12.560><c> uh</c><00:43:12.800><c> steve</c>

00:43:13.109 --> 00:43:13.119 align:start position:0%
there was the ross column which uh steve
 

00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:14.069 align:start position:0%
there was the ross column which uh steve
cousins<00:43:13.599><c> wrote</c>

00:43:14.069 --> 00:43:14.079 align:start position:0%
cousins wrote
 

00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:15.270 align:start position:0%
cousins wrote
who<00:43:14.319><c> just</c><00:43:14.480><c> said</c><00:43:14.640><c> you</c><00:43:14.720><c> know</c><00:43:14.800><c> what's</c><00:43:15.040><c> happening</c>

00:43:15.270 --> 00:43:15.280 align:start position:0%
who just said you know what's happening
 

00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:17.990 align:start position:0%
who just said you know what's happening
with<00:43:15.359><c> the</c><00:43:15.520><c> ross</c><00:43:15.839><c> project</c><00:43:16.720><c> ross</c><00:43:17.040><c> was</c><00:43:17.280><c> starting</c>

00:43:17.990 --> 00:43:18.000 align:start position:0%
with the ross project ross was starting
 

00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:19.190 align:start position:0%
with the ross project ross was starting
started<00:43:18.560><c> before</c><00:43:18.800><c> i</c><00:43:18.880><c> became</c><00:43:19.119><c> the</c>

00:43:19.190 --> 00:43:19.200 align:start position:0%
started before i became the
 

00:43:19.200 --> 00:43:21.430 align:start position:0%
started before i became the
editor-in-chief<00:43:19.920><c> but</c><00:43:20.560><c> it</c><00:43:20.800><c> seemed</c><00:43:21.119><c> you</c><00:43:21.280><c> know</c>

00:43:21.430 --> 00:43:21.440 align:start position:0%
editor-in-chief but it seemed you know
 

00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:21.829 align:start position:0%
editor-in-chief but it seemed you know
it's<00:43:21.599><c> a</c>

00:43:21.829 --> 00:43:21.839 align:start position:0%
it's a
 

00:43:21.839 --> 00:43:23.670 align:start position:0%
it's a
massive<00:43:22.160><c> contribution</c><00:43:22.640><c> to</c><00:43:22.800><c> our</c><00:43:22.960><c> community</c>

00:43:23.670 --> 00:43:23.680 align:start position:0%
massive contribution to our community
 

00:43:23.680 --> 00:43:25.030 align:start position:0%
massive contribution to our community
and<00:43:23.839><c> you</c><00:43:23.920><c> know</c><00:43:24.000><c> they</c><00:43:24.160><c> should</c><00:43:24.319><c> have</c><00:43:24.400><c> a</c><00:43:24.480><c> soapbox</c>

00:43:25.030 --> 00:43:25.040 align:start position:0%
and you know they should have a soapbox
 

00:43:25.040 --> 00:43:26.309 align:start position:0%
and you know they should have a soapbox
where<00:43:25.200><c> they</c><00:43:25.359><c> can</c><00:43:25.520><c> just</c>

00:43:26.309 --> 00:43:26.319 align:start position:0%
where they can just
 

00:43:26.319 --> 00:43:29.510 align:start position:0%
where they can just
tell<00:43:26.560><c> us</c><00:43:26.960><c> what's</c><00:43:27.280><c> going</c><00:43:27.520><c> on</c>

00:43:29.510 --> 00:43:29.520 align:start position:0%
tell us what's going on
 

00:43:29.520 --> 00:43:32.150 align:start position:0%
tell us what's going on
and<00:43:29.680><c> there's</c><00:43:30.240><c> a</c><00:43:30.400><c> bunch</c><00:43:30.640><c> of</c><00:43:30.800><c> other</c><00:43:31.680><c> regular</c>

00:43:32.150 --> 00:43:32.160 align:start position:0%
and there's a bunch of other regular
 

00:43:32.160 --> 00:43:33.990 align:start position:0%
and there's a bunch of other regular
columns<00:43:32.640><c> that</c><00:43:32.800><c> i</c><00:43:33.040><c> initiated</c>

00:43:33.990 --> 00:43:34.000 align:start position:0%
columns that i initiated
 

00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:35.750 align:start position:0%
columns that i initiated
i<00:43:34.160><c> probably</c><00:43:34.400><c> initiated</c><00:43:34.960><c> more</c><00:43:35.119><c> columns</c><00:43:35.520><c> than</c>

00:43:35.750 --> 00:43:35.760 align:start position:0%
i probably initiated more columns than
 

00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:37.510 align:start position:0%
i probably initiated more columns than
was<00:43:36.000><c> sensible</c>

00:43:37.510 --> 00:43:37.520 align:start position:0%
was sensible
 

00:43:37.520 --> 00:43:40.790 align:start position:0%
was sensible
because<00:43:38.240><c> oftentimes</c><00:43:39.520><c> not</c><00:43:39.839><c> every</c><00:43:40.079><c> column</c><00:43:40.400><c> ran</c>

00:43:40.790 --> 00:43:40.800 align:start position:0%
because oftentimes not every column ran
 

00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:42.710 align:start position:0%
because oftentimes not every column ran
every<00:43:41.119><c> issue</c><00:43:41.760><c> because</c><00:43:41.920><c> it</c><00:43:42.079><c> was</c><00:43:42.160><c> just</c><00:43:42.400><c> hard</c><00:43:42.640><c> to</c>

00:43:42.710 --> 00:43:42.720 align:start position:0%
every issue because it was just hard to
 

00:43:42.720 --> 00:43:43.829 align:start position:0%
every issue because it was just hard to
get<00:43:42.880><c> the</c><00:43:42.960><c> content</c><00:43:43.520><c> and</c>

00:43:43.829 --> 00:43:43.839 align:start position:0%
get the content and
 

00:43:43.839 --> 00:43:46.230 align:start position:0%
get the content and
i<00:43:44.000><c> tried</c><00:43:44.240><c> to</c><00:43:44.400><c> do</c><00:43:44.560><c> an</c><00:43:44.640><c> interview</c><00:43:45.119><c> piece</c><00:43:45.839><c> which</c>

00:43:46.230 --> 00:43:46.240 align:start position:0%
i tried to do an interview piece which
 

00:43:46.240 --> 00:43:47.829 align:start position:0%
i tried to do an interview piece which
appeared<00:43:46.560><c> at</c><00:43:46.640><c> the</c><00:43:46.720><c> back</c><00:43:46.960><c> of</c><00:43:47.040><c> the</c><00:43:47.119><c> magazine</c><00:43:47.680><c> and</c>

00:43:47.829 --> 00:43:47.839 align:start position:0%
appeared at the back of the magazine and
 

00:43:47.839 --> 00:43:49.270 align:start position:0%
appeared at the back of the magazine and
it<00:43:48.000><c> did</c><00:43:48.319><c> for</c>

00:43:49.270 --> 00:43:49.280 align:start position:0%
it did for
 

00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:51.030 align:start position:0%
it did for
probably<00:43:49.599><c> the</c><00:43:49.680><c> first</c><00:43:50.000><c> half</c><00:43:50.240><c> dozen</c><00:43:50.560><c> issues</c><00:43:50.960><c> and</c>

00:43:51.030 --> 00:43:51.040 align:start position:0%
probably the first half dozen issues and
 

00:43:51.040 --> 00:43:52.470 align:start position:0%
probably the first half dozen issues and
then<00:43:51.280><c> things</c><00:43:51.520><c> just</c><00:43:51.760><c> started</c><00:43:52.000><c> to</c><00:43:52.079><c> get</c><00:43:52.240><c> away</c>

00:43:52.470 --> 00:43:52.480 align:start position:0%
then things just started to get away
 

00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:53.190 align:start position:0%
then things just started to get away
from<00:43:52.640><c> me</c><00:43:52.880><c> and</c>

00:43:53.190 --> 00:43:53.200 align:start position:0%
from me and
 

00:43:53.200 --> 00:43:55.270 align:start position:0%
from me and
that<00:43:53.440><c> interview</c><00:43:53.839><c> fell</c><00:43:54.079><c> off</c><00:43:54.400><c> and</c><00:43:54.880><c> life</c><00:43:55.119><c> got</c>

00:43:55.270 --> 00:43:55.280 align:start position:0%
that interview fell off and life got
 

00:43:55.280 --> 00:43:56.550 align:start position:0%
that interview fell off and life got
more<00:43:55.440><c> and</c><00:43:55.520><c> more</c><00:43:55.760><c> complicated</c><00:43:56.319><c> and</c><00:43:56.400><c> so</c>

00:43:56.550 --> 00:43:56.560 align:start position:0%
more and more complicated and so
 

00:43:56.560 --> 00:43:58.309 align:start position:0%
more and more complicated and so
eventually<00:43:56.960><c> i</c><00:43:57.119><c> stepped</c><00:43:57.359><c> down</c><00:43:57.599><c> as</c><00:43:57.839><c> being</c>

00:43:58.309 --> 00:43:58.319 align:start position:0%
eventually i stepped down as being
 

00:43:58.319 --> 00:44:00.309 align:start position:0%
eventually i stepped down as being
before<00:43:58.560><c> the</c><00:43:58.720><c> end</c><00:43:58.880><c> of</c><00:43:58.960><c> my</c><00:43:59.119><c> turn</c><00:43:59.760><c> because</c><00:44:00.079><c> it</c><00:44:00.160><c> was</c>

00:44:00.309 --> 00:44:00.319 align:start position:0%
before the end of my turn because it was
 

00:44:00.319 --> 00:44:02.470 align:start position:0%
before the end of my turn because it was
just<00:44:00.560><c> just</c><00:44:00.800><c> too</c><00:44:00.960><c> much</c><00:44:01.200><c> going</c><00:44:01.520><c> on</c><00:44:01.760><c> but</c>

00:44:02.470 --> 00:44:02.480 align:start position:0%
just just too much going on but
 

00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:04.069 align:start position:0%
just just too much going on but
people<00:44:02.800><c> like</c><00:44:03.040><c> the</c><00:44:03.200><c> little</c><00:44:03.440><c> interview</c><00:44:03.839><c> piece</c>

00:44:04.069 --> 00:44:04.079 align:start position:0%
people like the little interview piece
 

00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:05.670 align:start position:0%
people like the little interview piece
and<00:44:04.160><c> i</c><00:44:04.240><c> like</c><00:44:04.480><c> doing</c><00:44:04.800><c> it</c><00:44:05.280><c> but</c>

00:44:05.670 --> 00:44:05.680 align:start position:0%
and i like doing it but
 

00:44:05.680 --> 00:44:09.750 align:start position:0%
and i like doing it but
uh<00:44:06.079><c> yeah</c><00:44:07.440><c> not</c><00:44:07.760><c> sustainable</c>

00:44:09.750 --> 00:44:09.760 align:start position:0%
uh yeah not sustainable
 

00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:11.750 align:start position:0%
uh yeah not sustainable
so<00:44:10.079><c> uh</c><00:44:10.319><c> well</c><00:44:10.480><c> apart</c><00:44:10.800><c> from</c><00:44:10.960><c> the</c><00:44:11.040><c> cows</c><00:44:11.520><c> and</c><00:44:11.599><c> the</c>

00:44:11.750 --> 00:44:11.760 align:start position:0%
so uh well apart from the cows and the
 

00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:12.950 align:start position:0%
so uh well apart from the cows and the
96<00:44:12.400><c> paper</c>

00:44:12.950 --> 00:44:12.960 align:start position:0%
96 paper
 

00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:15.109 align:start position:0%
96 paper
other<00:44:13.280><c> ania</c><00:44:13.839><c> anything</c><00:44:14.240><c> we</c><00:44:14.400><c> overlooked</c><00:44:14.960><c> that</c>

00:44:15.109 --> 00:44:15.119 align:start position:0%
other ania anything we overlooked that
 

00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:16.309 align:start position:0%
other ania anything we overlooked that
you<00:44:15.280><c> look</c><00:44:15.520><c> as</c>

00:44:16.309 --> 00:44:16.319 align:start position:0%
you look as
 

00:44:16.319 --> 00:44:18.390 align:start position:0%
you look as
as<00:44:16.560><c> your</c><00:44:16.960><c> sort</c><00:44:17.119><c> of</c><00:44:17.359><c> proud</c><00:44:17.680><c> achievements</c><00:44:18.319><c> and</c>

00:44:18.390 --> 00:44:18.400 align:start position:0%
as your sort of proud achievements and
 

00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:19.829 align:start position:0%
as your sort of proud achievements and
robotics<00:44:19.119><c> or</c>

00:44:19.829 --> 00:44:19.839 align:start position:0%
robotics or
 

00:44:19.839 --> 00:44:22.950 align:start position:0%
robotics or
papers<00:44:20.240><c> that</c><00:44:20.400><c> you've</c><00:44:20.839><c> done</c><00:44:22.000><c> no</c><00:44:22.160><c> i</c><00:44:22.560><c> don't</c>

00:44:22.950 --> 00:44:22.960 align:start position:0%
papers that you've done no i don't
 

00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:25.109 align:start position:0%
papers that you've done no i don't
i<00:44:23.040><c> don't</c><00:44:23.280><c> think</c><00:44:23.520><c> so</c><00:44:23.839><c> i</c><00:44:24.000><c> think</c><00:44:24.400><c> yeah</c><00:44:24.720><c> that</c><00:44:24.960><c> the</c>

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i don't think so i think yeah that the
 

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i don't think so i think yeah that the
96<00:44:25.520><c> paper</c><00:44:25.839><c> is</c><00:44:26.079><c> important</c>

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96 paper is important
 

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96 paper is important
uh<00:44:26.960><c> submits</c><00:44:27.359><c> you</c><00:44:27.440><c> know</c><00:44:27.599><c> some</c><00:44:27.839><c> great</c>

00:44:28.069 --> 00:44:28.079 align:start position:0%
uh submits you know some great
 

00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:29.829 align:start position:0%
uh submits you know some great
collaborations<00:44:29.200><c> with</c>

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collaborations with
 

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collaborations with
with<00:44:30.079><c> a</c><00:44:30.160><c> number</c><00:44:30.400><c> of</c><00:44:30.560><c> people</c><00:44:30.960><c> all</c><00:44:31.200><c> around</c><00:44:31.440><c> the</c>

00:44:31.510 --> 00:44:31.520 align:start position:0%
with a number of people all around the
 

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with a number of people all around the
world<00:44:32.480><c> book</c><00:44:32.800><c> i'm</c>

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world book i'm
 

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world book i'm
i'm<00:44:33.440><c> pretty</c><00:44:33.920><c> i'm</c><00:44:34.079><c> pretty</c><00:44:34.319><c> delighted</c><00:44:34.800><c> with</c><00:44:35.359><c> uh</c>

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i'm pretty i'm pretty delighted with uh
 

00:44:36.160 --> 00:44:37.829 align:start position:0%
i'm pretty i'm pretty delighted with uh
people<00:44:36.400><c> are</c><00:44:36.560><c> reading</c><00:44:36.880><c> it</c><00:44:37.040><c> and</c><00:44:37.200><c> using</c><00:44:37.520><c> it</c><00:44:37.680><c> and</c>

00:44:37.829 --> 00:44:37.839 align:start position:0%
people are reading it and using it and
 

00:44:37.839 --> 00:44:39.750 align:start position:0%
people are reading it and using it and
for<00:44:38.000><c> teaching</c><00:44:38.480><c> and</c><00:44:38.640><c> things</c><00:44:38.880><c> like</c><00:44:39.119><c> that</c>

00:44:39.750 --> 00:44:39.760 align:start position:0%
for teaching and things like that
 

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for teaching and things like that
the<00:44:40.079><c> open</c><00:44:40.400><c> source</c><00:44:40.720><c> toolboxes</c><00:44:41.760><c> are</c><00:44:41.839><c> still</c>

00:44:42.150 --> 00:44:42.160 align:start position:0%
the open source toolboxes are still
 

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the open source toolboxes are still
really<00:44:42.400><c> widely</c><00:44:42.800><c> used</c><00:44:43.119><c> there's</c><00:44:43.359><c> an</c><00:44:43.520><c> active</c>

00:44:44.069 --> 00:44:44.079 align:start position:0%
really widely used there's an active
 

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really widely used there's an active
user<00:44:44.480><c> community</c><00:44:45.839><c> and</c><00:44:45.920><c> that's</c><00:44:46.240><c> a</c><00:44:46.640><c> that's</c><00:44:46.880><c> a</c>

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user community and that's a that's a
 

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user community and that's a that's a
source<00:44:47.200><c> of</c><00:44:47.359><c> delight</c>

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source of delight
 

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source of delight
i'm<00:44:49.040><c> working</c><00:44:49.760><c> at</c><00:44:49.839><c> the</c><00:44:50.079><c> moment</c><00:44:50.560><c> on</c><00:44:50.720><c> doing</c><00:44:51.119><c> an</c>

00:44:51.430 --> 00:44:51.440 align:start position:0%
i'm working at the moment on doing an
 

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i'm working at the moment on doing an
open

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open
 

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open
online<00:44:52.640><c> robotics</c><00:44:53.200><c> course</c><00:44:54.400><c> seemed</c><00:44:54.640><c> like</c><00:44:54.800><c> a</c>

00:44:54.870 --> 00:44:54.880 align:start position:0%
online robotics course seemed like a
 

00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:56.069 align:start position:0%
online robotics course seemed like a
good<00:44:55.040><c> idea</c><00:44:55.359><c> when</c><00:44:55.520><c> i</c><00:44:55.599><c> mentioned</c>

00:44:56.069 --> 00:44:56.079 align:start position:0%
good idea when i mentioned
 

00:44:56.079 --> 00:44:58.710 align:start position:0%
good idea when i mentioned
it<00:44:56.319><c> now</c><00:44:56.640><c> i'm</c><00:44:56.960><c> up</c><00:44:57.200><c> to</c><00:44:57.440><c> here</c><00:44:57.760><c> in</c><00:44:57.920><c> the</c><00:44:58.000><c> project</c><00:44:58.560><c> and</c>

00:44:58.710 --> 00:44:58.720 align:start position:0%
it now i'm up to here in the project and
 

00:44:58.720 --> 00:44:59.589 align:start position:0%
it now i'm up to here in the project and
it's

00:44:59.589 --> 00:44:59.599 align:start position:0%
it's
 

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it's
it's<00:44:59.920><c> totally</c><00:45:00.319><c> massive</c><00:45:00.960><c> i</c><00:45:01.760><c> i</c><00:45:02.400><c> another</c><00:45:02.720><c> thing</c>

00:45:02.870 --> 00:45:02.880 align:start position:0%
it's totally massive i i another thing
 

00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:03.349 align:start position:0%
it's totally massive i i another thing
that<00:45:03.040><c> i</c>

00:45:03.349 --> 00:45:03.359 align:start position:0%
that i
 

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that i
underestimated<00:45:05.040><c> and</c><00:45:05.520><c> we</c><00:45:05.760><c> hope</c><00:45:06.079><c> we'll</c><00:45:06.240><c> run</c><00:45:06.480><c> a</c>

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underestimated and we hope we'll run a
 

00:45:06.560 --> 00:45:08.390 align:start position:0%
underestimated and we hope we'll run a
beta<00:45:06.880><c> at</c><00:45:06.960><c> the</c><00:45:07.119><c> beginning</c><00:45:07.520><c> of</c><00:45:07.680><c> next</c><00:45:07.920><c> year</c><00:45:08.240><c> and</c>

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beta at the beginning of next year and
 

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beta at the beginning of next year and
hope<00:45:08.720><c> to</c>

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hope to
 

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hope to
offer<00:45:10.079><c> it</c><00:45:10.240><c> globally</c><00:45:11.040><c> for</c><00:45:12.240><c> northern</c><00:45:12.800><c> spring</c>

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offer it globally for northern spring
 

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offer it globally for northern spring
semester

00:45:14.230 --> 00:45:14.240 align:start position:0%
semester
 

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semester
of<00:45:14.640><c> 2014.</c><00:45:16.400><c> that's</c><00:45:16.640><c> the</c><00:45:16.800><c> plan</c>

00:45:17.750 --> 00:45:17.760 align:start position:0%
of 2014. that's the plan
 

00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:20.550 align:start position:0%
of 2014. that's the plan
so<00:45:17.920><c> i've</c><00:45:18.079><c> been</c><00:45:18.480><c> doing</c><00:45:18.880><c> lots</c><00:45:19.200><c> of</c><00:45:20.240><c> lots</c><00:45:20.480><c> of</c>

00:45:20.550 --> 00:45:20.560 align:start position:0%
so i've been doing lots of lots of
 

00:45:20.560 --> 00:45:22.069 align:start position:0%
so i've been doing lots of lots of
videoing<00:45:21.200><c> and</c><00:45:21.280><c> the</c><00:45:21.440><c> rating</c>

00:45:22.069 --> 00:45:22.079 align:start position:0%
videoing and the rating
 

00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:23.829 align:start position:0%
videoing and the rating
i'm<00:45:22.240><c> working</c><00:45:22.560><c> with</c><00:45:22.720><c> graphic</c><00:45:23.119><c> designers</c><00:45:23.680><c> and</c>

00:45:23.829 --> 00:45:23.839 align:start position:0%
i'm working with graphic designers and
 

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i'm working with graphic designers and
learning<00:45:24.240><c> designers</c><00:45:24.880><c> and</c><00:45:25.119><c> software</c><00:45:25.520><c> support</c>

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learning designers and software support
 

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learning designers and software support
people

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people
 

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people
and<00:45:27.119><c> it's</c><00:45:27.440><c> a</c><00:45:27.599><c> brilliant</c><00:45:28.000><c> project</c>

00:45:29.510 --> 00:45:29.520 align:start position:0%
and it's a brilliant project
 

00:45:29.520 --> 00:45:31.270 align:start position:0%
and it's a brilliant project
and<00:45:29.680><c> i</c><00:45:29.760><c> wish</c><00:45:30.000><c> i</c><00:45:30.079><c> was</c><00:45:30.240><c> doing</c><00:45:30.480><c> it</c><00:45:30.560><c> full-time</c><00:45:31.040><c> but</c>

00:45:31.270 --> 00:45:31.280 align:start position:0%
and i wish i was doing it full-time but
 

00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:33.270 align:start position:0%
and i wish i was doing it full-time but
i'm<00:45:31.359><c> doing</c><00:45:31.520><c> it</c><00:45:31.599><c> with</c><00:45:31.839><c> about</c><00:45:32.480><c> 10</c><00:45:32.640><c> percent</c><00:45:32.960><c> of</c><00:45:33.119><c> my</c>

00:45:33.270 --> 00:45:33.280 align:start position:0%
i'm doing it with about 10 percent of my
 

00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:34.309 align:start position:0%
i'm doing it with about 10 percent of my
time<00:45:33.599><c> in</c><00:45:33.680><c> the</c><00:45:33.839><c> moment</c>

00:45:34.309 --> 00:45:34.319 align:start position:0%
time in the moment
 

00:45:34.319 --> 00:45:37.510 align:start position:0%
time in the moment
and<00:45:34.480><c> it's</c><00:45:34.880><c> yeah</c><00:45:35.359><c> it's</c><00:45:35.599><c> it's</c><00:45:35.839><c> hard</c><00:45:36.560><c> but</c><00:45:37.280><c> uh</c>

00:45:37.510 --> 00:45:37.520 align:start position:0%
and it's yeah it's it's hard but uh
 

00:45:37.520 --> 00:45:38.870 align:start position:0%
and it's yeah it's it's hard but uh
there's<00:45:37.760><c> probably</c><00:45:38.000><c> the</c><00:45:38.079><c> most</c><00:45:38.319><c> exciting</c><00:45:38.720><c> thing</c>

00:45:38.870 --> 00:45:38.880 align:start position:0%
there's probably the most exciting thing
 

00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:41.670 align:start position:0%
there's probably the most exciting thing
i'm<00:45:38.960><c> doing</c><00:45:39.200><c> at</c><00:45:39.280><c> the</c><00:45:39.359><c> moment</c>

00:45:41.670 --> 00:45:41.680 align:start position:0%
i'm doing at the moment
 

00:45:41.680 --> 00:45:43.829 align:start position:0%
i'm doing at the moment
so<00:45:41.920><c> you've</c><00:45:42.160><c> only</c><00:45:42.319><c> been</c><00:45:42.480><c> at</c><00:45:42.720><c> qut</c><00:45:43.440><c> for</c><00:45:43.599><c> a</c><00:45:43.680><c> few</c>

00:45:43.829 --> 00:45:43.839 align:start position:0%
so you've only been at qut for a few
 

00:45:43.839 --> 00:45:46.230 align:start position:0%
so you've only been at qut for a few
years<00:45:44.560><c> have</c><00:45:44.640><c> you</c><00:45:44.800><c> trained</c><00:45:45.119><c> some</c><00:45:45.359><c> phds</c><00:45:46.000><c> in</c><00:45:46.079><c> that</c>

00:45:46.230 --> 00:45:46.240 align:start position:0%
years have you trained some phds in that
 

00:45:46.240 --> 00:45:47.589 align:start position:0%
years have you trained some phds in that
time

00:45:47.589 --> 00:45:47.599 align:start position:0%
time
 

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time
not<00:45:47.920><c> quite</c><00:45:48.640><c> uh</c><00:45:49.119><c> i</c><00:45:49.359><c> have</c><00:45:49.760><c> at</c><00:45:50.000><c> them</c>

00:45:51.510 --> 00:45:51.520 align:start position:0%
not quite uh i have at them
 

00:45:51.520 --> 00:45:55.829 align:start position:0%
not quite uh i have at them
so<00:45:51.760><c> i</c><00:45:52.000><c> started</c><00:45:52.640><c> with</c><00:45:53.599><c> three</c><00:45:53.920><c> phd</c><00:45:54.560><c> students</c>

00:45:55.829 --> 00:45:55.839 align:start position:0%
so i started with three phd students
 

00:45:55.839 --> 00:45:57.750 align:start position:0%
so i started with three phd students
two<00:45:56.000><c> of</c><00:45:56.079><c> them</c><00:45:56.319><c> and</c><00:45:56.720><c> just</c><00:45:57.040><c> about</c><00:45:57.280><c> to</c><00:45:57.440><c> start</c>

00:45:57.750 --> 00:45:57.760 align:start position:0%
two of them and just about to start
 

00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:00.390 align:start position:0%
two of them and just about to start
writing<00:45:58.160><c> up</c><00:45:58.560><c> so</c><00:45:58.800><c> the</c><00:45:58.960><c> australian</c><00:45:59.599><c> system</c>

00:46:00.390 --> 00:46:00.400 align:start position:0%
writing up so the australian system
 

00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:03.349 align:start position:0%
writing up so the australian system
phds<00:46:01.359><c> typically</c><00:46:01.839><c> take</c><00:46:02.079><c> between</c><00:46:02.480><c> three</c><00:46:03.200><c> three</c>

00:46:03.349 --> 00:46:03.359 align:start position:0%
phds typically take between three three
 

00:46:03.359 --> 00:46:04.630 align:start position:0%
phds typically take between three three
to<00:46:03.520><c> four</c><00:46:03.760><c> years</c>

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to four years
 

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to four years
so<00:46:04.880><c> yeah</c><00:46:05.119><c> two</c><00:46:05.280><c> of</c><00:46:05.359><c> them</c><00:46:05.520><c> are</c><00:46:05.599><c> just</c><00:46:05.839><c> starting</c><00:46:06.240><c> to</c>

00:46:06.630 --> 00:46:06.640 align:start position:0%
so yeah two of them are just starting to
 

00:46:06.640 --> 00:46:08.150 align:start position:0%
so yeah two of them are just starting to
to<00:46:06.800><c> write</c><00:46:07.040><c> the</c><00:46:07.119><c> thesis</c><00:46:07.520><c> now</c><00:46:07.680><c> and</c><00:46:07.839><c> they</c><00:46:08.000><c> should</c>

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to write the thesis now and they should
 

00:46:08.160 --> 00:46:08.630 align:start position:0%
to write the thesis now and they should
be

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be
 

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be
graduated<00:46:09.280><c> the</c><00:46:09.359><c> beginning</c><00:46:09.839><c> of</c><00:46:10.000><c> next</c><00:46:10.319><c> year</c><00:46:10.960><c> and</c>

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graduated the beginning of next year and
 

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graduated the beginning of next year and
i've<00:46:11.359><c> got</c><00:46:11.599><c> some</c>

00:46:12.069 --> 00:46:12.079 align:start position:0%
i've got some
 

00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:14.150 align:start position:0%
i've got some
some<00:46:12.240><c> more</c><00:46:12.480><c> recent</c><00:46:12.800><c> phd</c><00:46:13.280><c> students</c><00:46:13.760><c> starting</c>

00:46:14.150 --> 00:46:14.160 align:start position:0%
some more recent phd students starting
 

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some more recent phd students starting
so

00:46:15.670 --> 00:46:15.680 align:start position:0%
so
 

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so
somewhat<00:46:16.240><c> i've</c><00:46:16.400><c> got</c><00:46:16.560><c> something</c><00:46:16.960><c> of</c><00:46:17.359><c> a</c>

00:46:17.430 --> 00:46:17.440 align:start position:0%
somewhat i've got something of a
 

00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:19.190 align:start position:0%
somewhat i've got something of a
pipeline<00:46:17.920><c> happening</c><00:46:18.560><c> so</c><00:46:18.720><c> that's</c><00:46:18.960><c> pretty</c>

00:46:19.190 --> 00:46:19.200 align:start position:0%
pipeline happening so that's pretty
 

00:46:19.200 --> 00:46:20.870 align:start position:0%
pipeline happening so that's pretty
exciting<00:46:19.599><c> i've</c>

00:46:20.870 --> 00:46:20.880 align:start position:0%
exciting i've
 

00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:22.950 align:start position:0%
exciting i've
been<00:46:21.839><c> what</c><00:46:22.000><c> we</c><00:46:22.079><c> call</c><00:46:22.319><c> an</c><00:46:22.480><c> associate</c>

00:46:22.950 --> 00:46:22.960 align:start position:0%
been what we call an associate
 

00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:25.109 align:start position:0%
been what we call an associate
supervisor<00:46:23.599><c> of</c><00:46:23.680><c> phd</c><00:46:24.240><c> students</c><00:46:24.560><c> before</c>

00:46:25.109 --> 00:46:25.119 align:start position:0%
supervisor of phd students before
 

00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:27.990 align:start position:0%
supervisor of phd students before
so<00:46:25.760><c> because</c><00:46:26.000><c> i</c><00:46:26.079><c> wasn't</c><00:46:26.400><c> an</c><00:46:26.560><c> academic</c><00:46:27.680><c> i</c><00:46:27.839><c> could</c>

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so because i wasn't an academic i could
 

00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:28.710 align:start position:0%
so because i wasn't an academic i could
never<00:46:28.319><c> be</c>

00:46:28.710 --> 00:46:28.720 align:start position:0%
never be
 

00:46:28.720 --> 00:46:30.870 align:start position:0%
never be
you<00:46:28.880><c> know</c><00:46:29.040><c> their</c><00:46:29.280><c> principal</c><00:46:30.160><c> their</c><00:46:30.400><c> principal</c>

00:46:30.870 --> 00:46:30.880 align:start position:0%
you know their principal their principal
 

00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:32.309 align:start position:0%
you know their principal their principal
advisor

00:46:32.309 --> 00:46:32.319 align:start position:0%
advisor
 

00:46:32.319 --> 00:46:34.550 align:start position:0%
advisor
so<00:46:32.480><c> i've</c><00:46:33.040><c> been</c><00:46:33.280><c> associated</c><00:46:33.839><c> with</c><00:46:34.079><c> four</c><00:46:34.400><c> or</c>

00:46:34.550 --> 00:46:34.560 align:start position:0%
so i've been associated with four or
 

00:46:34.560 --> 00:46:35.430 align:start position:0%
so i've been associated with four or
five

00:46:35.430 --> 00:46:35.440 align:start position:0%
five
 

00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:38.309 align:start position:0%
five
in<00:46:35.599><c> the</c><00:46:35.680><c> past</c><00:46:36.079><c> it's</c><00:46:36.240><c> not</c><00:46:36.400><c> a</c><00:46:36.560><c> great</c><00:46:36.800><c> number</c><00:46:38.160><c> but</c>

00:46:38.309 --> 00:46:38.319 align:start position:0%
in the past it's not a great number but
 

00:46:38.319 --> 00:46:39.030 align:start position:0%
in the past it's not a great number but
now<00:46:38.560><c> i've</c><00:46:38.640><c> got</c>

00:46:39.030 --> 00:46:39.040 align:start position:0%
now i've got
 

00:46:39.040 --> 00:46:41.670 align:start position:0%
now i've got
a<00:46:39.119><c> couple</c><00:46:39.359><c> of</c><00:46:39.440><c> my</c><00:46:39.680><c> own</c><00:46:39.920><c> almost</c><00:46:40.400><c> almost</c><00:46:40.800><c> done</c>

00:46:41.670 --> 00:46:41.680 align:start position:0%
a couple of my own almost almost done
 

00:46:41.680 --> 00:46:44.069 align:start position:0%
a couple of my own almost almost done
are<00:46:41.760><c> they</c><00:46:41.839><c> working</c><00:46:42.160><c> in</c><00:46:42.240><c> field</c><00:46:42.480><c> robotics</c><00:46:43.200><c> or</c>

00:46:44.069 --> 00:46:44.079 align:start position:0%
are they working in field robotics or
 

00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:46.870 align:start position:0%
are they working in field robotics or
what<00:46:44.319><c> areas</c><00:46:44.800><c> are</c><00:46:44.880><c> they</c><00:46:45.280><c> uh</c><00:46:45.920><c> the</c><00:46:46.160><c> two</c><00:46:46.400><c> are</c><00:46:46.480><c> both</c>

00:46:46.870 --> 00:46:46.880 align:start position:0%
what areas are they uh the two are both
 

00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:48.870 align:start position:0%
what areas are they uh the two are both
both<00:46:47.119><c> interior</c><00:46:47.440><c> robotics</c>

00:46:48.870 --> 00:46:48.880 align:start position:0%
both interior robotics
 

00:46:48.880 --> 00:46:52.470 align:start position:0%
both interior robotics
one<00:46:49.200><c> inkusar</c><00:46:50.400><c> is</c><00:46:50.640><c> a</c><00:46:50.960><c> korean</c><00:46:51.520><c> student</c><00:46:51.839><c> of</c><00:46:52.000><c> mine</c>

00:46:52.470 --> 00:46:52.480 align:start position:0%
one inkusar is a korean student of mine
 

00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:55.270 align:start position:0%
one inkusar is a korean student of mine
and<00:46:52.640><c> he's</c><00:46:52.960><c> working</c><00:46:53.359><c> on</c><00:46:53.839><c> flying</c><00:46:54.160><c> robots</c><00:46:55.040><c> the</c>

00:46:55.270 --> 00:46:55.280 align:start position:0%
and he's working on flying robots the
 

00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:56.309 align:start position:0%
and he's working on flying robots the
quadcopters

00:46:56.309 --> 00:46:56.319 align:start position:0%
quadcopters
 

00:46:56.319 --> 00:46:59.670 align:start position:0%
quadcopters
which<00:46:56.640><c> are</c><00:46:57.040><c> very</c><00:46:57.280><c> popular</c><00:46:57.760><c> at</c><00:46:57.839><c> the</c><00:46:57.920><c> moment</c><00:46:59.119><c> and</c>

00:46:59.670 --> 00:46:59.680 align:start position:0%
which are very popular at the moment and
 

00:46:59.680 --> 00:47:01.430 align:start position:0%
which are very popular at the moment and
you<00:46:59.839><c> see</c><00:47:00.079><c> some</c><00:47:00.319><c> fantastic</c><00:47:00.800><c> results</c><00:47:01.280><c> with</c>

00:47:01.430 --> 00:47:01.440 align:start position:0%
you see some fantastic results with
 

00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:04.150 align:start position:0%
you see some fantastic results with
quadcopters<00:47:02.319><c> you</c><00:47:02.640><c> can</c><00:47:02.880><c> see</c><00:47:03.040><c> them</c><00:47:03.280><c> playing</c>

00:47:04.150 --> 00:47:04.160 align:start position:0%
quadcopters you can see them playing
 

00:47:04.160 --> 00:47:07.109 align:start position:0%
quadcopters you can see them playing
juggling<00:47:04.720><c> balls</c><00:47:05.280><c> and</c><00:47:06.079><c> moving</c><00:47:06.560><c> synchronized</c>

00:47:07.109 --> 00:47:07.119 align:start position:0%
juggling balls and moving synchronized
 

00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:08.309 align:start position:0%
juggling balls and moving synchronized
to<00:47:07.200><c> music</c><00:47:07.520><c> and</c><00:47:07.599><c> whatever</c>

00:47:08.309 --> 00:47:08.319 align:start position:0%
to music and whatever
 

00:47:08.319 --> 00:47:10.150 align:start position:0%
to music and whatever
but<00:47:08.560><c> all</c><00:47:08.720><c> of</c><00:47:08.880><c> those</c><00:47:09.119><c> quadcopters</c><00:47:10.000><c> are</c>

00:47:10.150 --> 00:47:10.160 align:start position:0%
but all of those quadcopters are
 

00:47:10.160 --> 00:47:11.750 align:start position:0%
but all of those quadcopters are
operating<00:47:10.640><c> in</c><00:47:10.800><c> environments</c>

00:47:11.750 --> 00:47:11.760 align:start position:0%
operating in environments
 

00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:13.270 align:start position:0%
operating in environments
they<00:47:11.920><c> call</c><00:47:12.160><c> vicon</c><00:47:12.560><c> motion</c><00:47:12.960><c> capture</c>

00:47:13.270 --> 00:47:13.280 align:start position:0%
they call vicon motion capture
 

00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:14.790 align:start position:0%
they call vicon motion capture
environment<00:47:14.079><c> so</c><00:47:14.400><c> this</c>

00:47:14.790 --> 00:47:14.800 align:start position:0%
environment so this
 

00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:16.710 align:start position:0%
environment so this
big<00:47:15.040><c> room</c><00:47:15.280><c> with</c><00:47:15.440><c> all</c><00:47:15.599><c> these</c><00:47:16.079><c> fancy</c><00:47:16.560><c> and</c>

00:47:16.710 --> 00:47:16.720 align:start position:0%
big room with all these fancy and
 

00:47:16.720 --> 00:47:18.309 align:start position:0%
big room with all these fancy and
expensive<00:47:17.200><c> cameras</c><00:47:17.520><c> around</c><00:47:17.920><c> it</c>

00:47:18.309 --> 00:47:18.319 align:start position:0%
expensive cameras around it
 

00:47:18.319 --> 00:47:19.910 align:start position:0%
expensive cameras around it
looking<00:47:18.640><c> at</c><00:47:18.880><c> the</c><00:47:19.040><c> robot</c><00:47:19.440><c> and</c><00:47:19.520><c> telling</c><00:47:19.839><c> it</c>

00:47:19.910 --> 00:47:19.920 align:start position:0%
looking at the robot and telling it
 

00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:22.069 align:start position:0%
looking at the robot and telling it
where<00:47:20.160><c> it</c><00:47:20.319><c> is</c><00:47:20.800><c> very</c><00:47:21.119><c> accurately</c><00:47:21.599><c> and</c><00:47:21.760><c> very</c>

00:47:22.069 --> 00:47:22.079 align:start position:0%
where it is very accurately and very
 

00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:22.630 align:start position:0%
where it is very accurately and very
often

00:47:22.630 --> 00:47:22.640 align:start position:0%
often
 

00:47:22.640 --> 00:47:24.150 align:start position:0%
often
a<00:47:22.800><c> thousand</c><00:47:23.119><c> times</c><00:47:23.359><c> a</c><00:47:23.440><c> second</c><00:47:23.760><c> it</c><00:47:23.839><c> gets</c><00:47:24.000><c> its</c>

00:47:24.150 --> 00:47:24.160 align:start position:0%
a thousand times a second it gets its
 

00:47:24.160 --> 00:47:27.270 align:start position:0%
a thousand times a second it gets its
position<00:47:24.480><c> to</c><00:47:24.640><c> millimeter</c><00:47:25.119><c> accuracy</c>

00:47:27.270 --> 00:47:27.280 align:start position:0%
position to millimeter accuracy
 

00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:29.990 align:start position:0%
position to millimeter accuracy
the<00:47:27.440><c> real</c><00:47:27.599><c> world's</c><00:47:27.920><c> not</c><00:47:28.079><c> like</c><00:47:28.319><c> that</c><00:47:28.880><c> so</c><00:47:29.760><c> my</c>

00:47:29.990 --> 00:47:30.000 align:start position:0%
the real world's not like that so my
 

00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:31.750 align:start position:0%
the real world's not like that so my
project<00:47:30.319><c> within</c><00:47:30.640><c> queue</c><00:47:30.880><c> is</c><00:47:31.040><c> to</c><00:47:31.119><c> say</c><00:47:31.359><c> okay</c><00:47:31.599><c> can</c>

00:47:31.750 --> 00:47:31.760 align:start position:0%
project within queue is to say okay can
 

00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:33.349 align:start position:0%
project within queue is to say okay can
we<00:47:31.920><c> put</c>

00:47:33.349 --> 00:47:33.359 align:start position:0%
we put
 

00:47:33.359 --> 00:47:35.990 align:start position:0%
we put
equivalent<00:47:34.319><c> sort</c><00:47:34.480><c> of</c><00:47:34.559><c> sensor</c><00:47:34.960><c> capacity</c><00:47:35.680><c> onto</c>

00:47:35.990 --> 00:47:36.000 align:start position:0%
equivalent sort of sensor capacity onto
 

00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:37.270 align:start position:0%
equivalent sort of sensor capacity onto
the<00:47:36.160><c> vehicle</c><00:47:36.559><c> itself</c>

00:47:37.270 --> 00:47:37.280 align:start position:0%
the vehicle itself
 

00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:38.950 align:start position:0%
the vehicle itself
to<00:47:37.440><c> kind</c><00:47:37.599><c> of</c><00:47:37.680><c> turn</c><00:47:37.920><c> it</c><00:47:38.079><c> inside</c><00:47:38.480><c> out</c><00:47:38.720><c> put</c><00:47:38.880><c> a</c>

00:47:38.950 --> 00:47:38.960 align:start position:0%
to kind of turn it inside out put a
 

00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:40.790 align:start position:0%
to kind of turn it inside out put a
vicon<00:47:39.520><c> light</c><00:47:39.760><c> capability</c>

00:47:40.790 --> 00:47:40.800 align:start position:0%
vicon light capability
 

00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:43.349 align:start position:0%
vicon light capability
on<00:47:40.960><c> the</c><00:47:41.119><c> robot</c><00:47:41.920><c> and</c><00:47:42.079><c> so</c><00:47:42.319><c> we're</c><00:47:42.480><c> using</c><00:47:42.960><c> a</c><00:47:43.119><c> high</c>

00:47:43.349 --> 00:47:43.359 align:start position:0%
on the robot and so we're using a high
 

00:47:43.359 --> 00:47:44.230 align:start position:0%
on the robot and so we're using a high
speed<00:47:43.599><c> camera</c>

00:47:44.230 --> 00:47:44.240 align:start position:0%
speed camera
 

00:47:44.240 --> 00:47:47.190 align:start position:0%
speed camera
on<00:47:44.480><c> the</c><00:47:44.720><c> robot</c><00:47:45.119><c> itself</c><00:47:46.319><c> not</c><00:47:46.559><c> as</c><00:47:46.640><c> high</c><00:47:46.800><c> speed</c><00:47:47.040><c> as</c>

00:47:47.190 --> 00:47:47.200 align:start position:0%
on the robot itself not as high speed as
 

00:47:47.200 --> 00:47:49.109 align:start position:0%
on the robot itself not as high speed as
the<00:47:47.280><c> vicon</c><00:47:47.599><c> but</c><00:47:47.760><c> still</c><00:47:48.000><c> fairly</c><00:47:48.240><c> high</c><00:47:48.480><c> speed</c>

00:47:49.109 --> 00:47:49.119 align:start position:0%
the vicon but still fairly high speed
 

00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:52.230 align:start position:0%
the vicon but still fairly high speed
and<00:47:49.280><c> using</c><00:47:49.599><c> it</c><00:47:49.760><c> to</c><00:47:49.920><c> maneuver</c><00:47:50.720><c> next</c><00:47:51.040><c> to</c><00:47:51.920><c> fixed</c>

00:47:52.230 --> 00:47:52.240 align:start position:0%
and using it to maneuver next to fixed
 

00:47:52.240 --> 00:47:53.270 align:start position:0%
and using it to maneuver next to fixed
infrastructure

00:47:53.270 --> 00:47:53.280 align:start position:0%
infrastructure
 

00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:55.589 align:start position:0%
infrastructure
and<00:47:53.520><c> so</c><00:47:54.000><c> vertical</c><00:47:54.480><c> pole</c><00:47:54.800><c> inspection</c><00:47:55.280><c> is</c><00:47:55.359><c> the</c>

00:47:55.589 --> 00:47:55.599 align:start position:0%
and so vertical pole inspection is the
 

00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:57.670 align:start position:0%
and so vertical pole inspection is the
specific<00:47:56.160><c> problem</c><00:47:56.559><c> we've</c><00:47:56.800><c> chosen</c>

00:47:57.670 --> 00:47:57.680 align:start position:0%
specific problem we've chosen
 

00:47:57.680 --> 00:48:00.950 align:start position:0%
specific problem we've chosen
so<00:47:58.800><c> my</c><00:47:58.960><c> goal</c><00:47:59.200><c> to</c><00:47:59.359><c> him</c><00:47:59.599><c> was</c><00:48:00.319><c> i</c><00:48:00.480><c> want</c><00:48:00.640><c> to</c><00:48:00.720><c> be</c><00:48:00.800><c> able</c>

00:48:00.950 --> 00:48:00.960 align:start position:0%
so my goal to him was i want to be able
 

00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:02.549 align:start position:0%
so my goal to him was i want to be able
to<00:48:01.119><c> fly</c><00:48:01.520><c> this</c><00:48:01.760><c> quadcopter</c>

00:48:02.549 --> 00:48:02.559 align:start position:0%
to fly this quadcopter
 

00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:05.349 align:start position:0%
to fly this quadcopter
really<00:48:02.880><c> close</c><00:48:03.119><c> to</c><00:48:03.280><c> a</c><00:48:03.440><c> pole</c><00:48:04.720><c> safely</c><00:48:05.200><c> even</c>

00:48:05.349 --> 00:48:05.359 align:start position:0%
really close to a pole safely even
 

00:48:05.359 --> 00:48:05.990 align:start position:0%
really close to a pole safely even
though<00:48:05.599><c> i've</c><00:48:05.760><c> got</c>

00:48:05.990 --> 00:48:06.000 align:start position:0%
though i've got
 

00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:08.390 align:start position:0%
though i've got
no<00:48:06.160><c> skill</c><00:48:07.119><c> so</c><00:48:07.520><c> the</c><00:48:07.680><c> skill</c><00:48:08.000><c> is</c><00:48:08.160><c> in</c><00:48:08.240><c> the</c>

00:48:08.390 --> 00:48:08.400 align:start position:0%
no skill so the skill is in the
 

00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:10.230 align:start position:0%
no skill so the skill is in the
quadcopter<00:48:09.040><c> he</c><00:48:09.119><c> can</c><00:48:09.280><c> sense</c><00:48:09.599><c> where</c><00:48:09.760><c> it</c><00:48:09.920><c> is</c><00:48:10.000><c> with</c>

00:48:10.230 --> 00:48:10.240 align:start position:0%
quadcopter he can sense where it is with
 

00:48:10.240 --> 00:48:11.349 align:start position:0%
quadcopter he can sense where it is with
respect<00:48:10.559><c> to</c><00:48:10.640><c> the</c><00:48:10.800><c> pole</c>

00:48:11.349 --> 00:48:11.359 align:start position:0%
respect to the pole
 

00:48:11.359 --> 00:48:12.870 align:start position:0%
respect to the pole
and<00:48:11.520><c> through</c><00:48:11.680><c> the</c><00:48:11.839><c> joystick</c><00:48:12.240><c> all</c><00:48:12.480><c> i</c><00:48:12.559><c> simply</c>

00:48:12.870 --> 00:48:12.880 align:start position:0%
and through the joystick all i simply
 

00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:14.549 align:start position:0%
and through the joystick all i simply
say<00:48:13.119><c> is</c><00:48:13.200><c> go</c><00:48:13.440><c> up</c><00:48:13.599><c> and</c><00:48:13.760><c> down</c>

00:48:14.549 --> 00:48:14.559 align:start position:0%
say is go up and down
 

00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:17.430 align:start position:0%
say is go up and down
or<00:48:14.800><c> go</c><00:48:15.040><c> left</c><00:48:15.280><c> or</c><00:48:15.440><c> right</c><00:48:16.000><c> the</c><00:48:16.240><c> actual</c><00:48:16.880><c> hard</c><00:48:17.200><c> work</c>

00:48:17.430 --> 00:48:17.440 align:start position:0%
or go left or right the actual hard work
 

00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:19.030 align:start position:0%
or go left or right the actual hard work
of<00:48:17.599><c> flying</c><00:48:18.000><c> it</c><00:48:18.160><c> and</c><00:48:18.240><c> keeping</c><00:48:18.480><c> it</c><00:48:18.559><c> where</c><00:48:18.800><c> i</c><00:48:18.880><c> want</c>

00:48:19.030 --> 00:48:19.040 align:start position:0%
of flying it and keeping it where i want
 

00:48:19.040 --> 00:48:19.670 align:start position:0%
of flying it and keeping it where i want
it<00:48:19.200><c> to</c><00:48:19.280><c> be</c>

00:48:19.670 --> 00:48:19.680 align:start position:0%
it to be
 

00:48:19.680 --> 00:48:22.069 align:start position:0%
it to be
is<00:48:19.839><c> done</c><00:48:20.079><c> by</c><00:48:20.240><c> the</c><00:48:20.319><c> machine</c><00:48:21.520><c> so</c><00:48:21.680><c> that's</c><00:48:21.920><c> one</c>

00:48:22.069 --> 00:48:22.079 align:start position:0%
is done by the machine so that's one
 

00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:23.030 align:start position:0%
is done by the machine so that's one
project

00:48:23.030 --> 00:48:23.040 align:start position:0%
project
 

00:48:23.040 --> 00:48:24.870 align:start position:0%
project
the<00:48:23.200><c> other</c><00:48:23.359><c> project</c><00:48:23.760><c> by</c><00:48:24.079><c> a</c><00:48:24.400><c> student</c><00:48:24.640><c> of</c><00:48:24.720><c> mine</c>

00:48:24.870 --> 00:48:24.880 align:start position:0%
the other project by a student of mine
 

00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:26.390 align:start position:0%
the other project by a student of mine
called<00:48:25.040><c> steve</c><00:48:25.359><c> martin</c>

00:48:26.390 --> 00:48:26.400 align:start position:0%
called steve martin
 

00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:29.910 align:start position:0%
called steve martin
is<00:48:27.040><c> concerned</c><00:48:27.839><c> with</c>

00:48:29.910 --> 00:48:29.920 align:start position:0%
is concerned with
 

00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:34.150 align:start position:0%
is concerned with
uh<00:48:31.359><c> with</c><00:48:31.680><c> ground</c><00:48:32.160><c> outdoor</c><00:48:32.640><c> ground</c><00:48:32.960><c> robots</c>

00:48:34.150 --> 00:48:34.160 align:start position:0%
uh with ground outdoor ground robots
 

00:48:34.160 --> 00:48:36.069 align:start position:0%
uh with ground outdoor ground robots
sensing<00:48:34.880><c> the</c><00:48:35.119><c> characteristics</c><00:48:35.920><c> of</c><00:48:36.000><c> the</c>

00:48:36.069 --> 00:48:36.079 align:start position:0%
sensing the characteristics of the
 

00:48:36.079 --> 00:48:37.670 align:start position:0%
sensing the characteristics of the
ground<00:48:36.400><c> that</c><00:48:36.559><c> it's</c><00:48:36.720><c> driving</c><00:48:37.200><c> over</c>

00:48:37.670 --> 00:48:37.680 align:start position:0%
ground that it's driving over
 

00:48:37.680 --> 00:48:39.589 align:start position:0%
ground that it's driving over
so<00:48:37.920><c> by</c><00:48:38.079><c> looking</c><00:48:38.400><c> at</c><00:48:38.559><c> the</c><00:48:38.720><c> power</c><00:48:39.040><c> it's</c><00:48:39.200><c> exerting</c>

00:48:39.589 --> 00:48:39.599 align:start position:0%
so by looking at the power it's exerting
 

00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:41.190 align:start position:0%
so by looking at the power it's exerting
to<00:48:39.680><c> drive</c><00:48:40.000><c> over</c><00:48:40.240><c> terrain</c><00:48:40.720><c> it</c><00:48:40.800><c> can</c><00:48:40.960><c> say</c>

00:48:41.190 --> 00:48:41.200 align:start position:0%
to drive over terrain it can say
 

00:48:41.200 --> 00:48:42.150 align:start position:0%
to drive over terrain it can say
something<00:48:41.520><c> about</c>

00:48:42.150 --> 00:48:42.160 align:start position:0%
something about
 

00:48:42.160 --> 00:48:44.630 align:start position:0%
something about
its<00:48:42.400><c> traversability</c><00:48:43.760><c> and</c><00:48:43.920><c> so</c><00:48:44.240><c> he's</c><00:48:44.400><c> been</c>

00:48:44.630 --> 00:48:44.640 align:start position:0%
its traversability and so he's been
 

00:48:44.640 --> 00:48:45.670 align:start position:0%
its traversability and so he's been
doing<00:48:45.040><c> some</c>

00:48:45.670 --> 00:48:45.680 align:start position:0%
doing some
 

00:48:45.680 --> 00:48:48.309 align:start position:0%
doing some
some<00:48:45.920><c> mapping</c><00:48:47.040><c> and</c><00:48:47.200><c> then</c><00:48:47.359><c> some</c><00:48:47.599><c> path</c><00:48:47.920><c> planning</c>

00:48:48.309 --> 00:48:48.319 align:start position:0%
some mapping and then some path planning
 

00:48:48.319 --> 00:48:50.390 align:start position:0%
some mapping and then some path planning
so<00:48:48.559><c> by</c><00:48:48.720><c> driving</c><00:48:49.200><c> around</c><00:48:49.520><c> it</c><00:48:49.599><c> can</c><00:48:49.839><c> learn</c>

00:48:50.390 --> 00:48:50.400 align:start position:0%
so by driving around it can learn
 

00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:52.150 align:start position:0%
so by driving around it can learn
what's<00:48:50.720><c> an</c><00:48:50.880><c> easy</c><00:48:51.119><c> place</c><00:48:51.359><c> to</c><00:48:51.520><c> drive</c><00:48:51.839><c> and</c><00:48:51.920><c> what's</c>

00:48:52.150 --> 00:48:52.160 align:start position:0%
what's an easy place to drive and what's
 

00:48:52.160 --> 00:48:54.150 align:start position:0%
what's an easy place to drive and what's
a<00:48:52.319><c> hard</c><00:48:52.640><c> place</c><00:48:52.960><c> to</c><00:48:53.119><c> drive</c>

00:48:54.150 --> 00:48:54.160 align:start position:0%
a hard place to drive
 

00:48:54.160 --> 00:48:56.069 align:start position:0%
a hard place to drive
and<00:48:54.319><c> if</c><00:48:54.480><c> it's</c><00:48:54.720><c> got</c><00:48:55.119><c> some</c><00:48:55.359><c> goals</c><00:48:55.760><c> that</c><00:48:55.920><c> it's</c>

00:48:56.069 --> 00:48:56.079 align:start position:0%
and if it's got some goals that it's
 

00:48:56.079 --> 00:48:57.430 align:start position:0%
and if it's got some goals that it's
going<00:48:56.160><c> to</c><00:48:56.319><c> visit</c><00:48:56.720><c> then</c>

00:48:57.430 --> 00:48:57.440 align:start position:0%
going to visit then
 

00:48:57.440 --> 00:48:59.829 align:start position:0%
going to visit then
as<00:48:57.599><c> it's</c><00:48:57.920><c> learning</c><00:48:58.720><c> through</c><00:48:59.040><c> experiencing</c>

00:48:59.829 --> 00:48:59.839 align:start position:0%
as it's learning through experiencing
 

00:48:59.839 --> 00:49:00.950 align:start position:0%
as it's learning through experiencing
the<00:49:00.079><c> environment</c>

00:49:00.950 --> 00:49:00.960 align:start position:0%
the environment
 

00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:04.230 align:start position:0%
the environment
it<00:49:01.200><c> can</c><00:49:02.000><c> iteratively</c><00:49:02.880><c> improve</c><00:49:03.520><c> the</c><00:49:03.680><c> path</c><00:49:04.000><c> that</c>

00:49:04.230 --> 00:49:04.240 align:start position:0%
it can iteratively improve the path that
 

00:49:04.240 --> 00:49:05.190 align:start position:0%
it can iteratively improve the path that
it<00:49:04.319><c> takes</c>

00:49:05.190 --> 00:49:05.200 align:start position:0%
it takes
 

00:49:05.200 --> 00:49:07.670 align:start position:0%
it takes
to<00:49:05.359><c> visit</c><00:49:05.680><c> these</c><00:49:05.920><c> locations</c><00:49:06.559><c> using</c><00:49:07.119><c> minimum</c>

00:49:07.670 --> 00:49:07.680 align:start position:0%
to visit these locations using minimum
 

00:49:07.680 --> 00:49:09.829 align:start position:0%
to visit these locations using minimum
minimum<00:49:08.000><c> amount</c><00:49:08.240><c> of</c><00:49:08.400><c> energy</c>

00:49:09.829 --> 00:49:09.839 align:start position:0%
minimum amount of energy
 

00:49:09.839 --> 00:49:12.549 align:start position:0%
minimum amount of energy
so<00:49:10.000><c> that's</c><00:49:10.240><c> a</c><00:49:10.319><c> that's</c><00:49:10.559><c> a</c><00:49:10.640><c> nice</c><00:49:10.880><c> piece</c><00:49:11.119><c> of</c><00:49:11.200><c> work</c>

00:49:12.549 --> 00:49:12.559 align:start position:0%
so that's a that's a nice piece of work
 

00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:14.150 align:start position:0%
so that's a that's a nice piece of work
great

00:49:14.150 --> 00:49:14.160 align:start position:0%
great
 

00:49:14.160 --> 00:49:17.270 align:start position:0%
great
and<00:49:14.319><c> one</c><00:49:14.559><c> thing</c><00:49:14.720><c> we</c><00:49:14.880><c> often</c><00:49:15.200><c> ask</c><00:49:15.599><c> is</c><00:49:15.760><c> uh</c><00:49:16.400><c> any</c><00:49:16.720><c> uh</c>

00:49:17.270 --> 00:49:17.280 align:start position:0%
and one thing we often ask is uh any uh
 

00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:20.470 align:start position:0%
and one thing we often ask is uh any uh
spectacular<00:49:18.160><c> robot</c><00:49:18.640><c> failures</c><00:49:19.440><c> or</c><00:49:20.079><c> funny</c>

00:49:20.470 --> 00:49:20.480 align:start position:0%
spectacular robot failures or funny
 

00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:22.870 align:start position:0%
spectacular robot failures or funny
stories<00:49:21.040><c> that</c><00:49:21.119><c> you'd</c><00:49:21.280><c> like</c><00:49:21.520><c> to</c><00:49:21.680><c> share</c>

00:49:22.870 --> 00:49:22.880 align:start position:0%
stories that you'd like to share
 

00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:26.630 align:start position:0%
stories that you'd like to share
ah<00:49:24.880><c> there's</c><00:49:25.200><c> been</c><00:49:25.760><c> probably</c><00:49:26.079><c> quite</c><00:49:26.319><c> a</c><00:49:26.400><c> lot</c><00:49:26.480><c> of</c>

00:49:26.630 --> 00:49:26.640 align:start position:0%
ah there's been probably quite a lot of
 

00:49:26.640 --> 00:49:28.390 align:start position:0%
ah there's been probably quite a lot of
robot<00:49:27.040><c> failures</c>

00:49:28.390 --> 00:49:28.400 align:start position:0%
robot failures
 

00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:30.390 align:start position:0%
robot failures
the<00:49:28.559><c> one</c><00:49:28.800><c> that's</c><00:49:29.040><c> probably</c><00:49:29.359><c> most</c><00:49:29.680><c> mortifying</c>

00:49:30.390 --> 00:49:30.400 align:start position:0%
the one that's probably most mortifying
 

00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:32.069 align:start position:0%
the one that's probably most mortifying
as<00:49:30.880><c> a</c><00:49:30.960><c> controls</c><00:49:31.520><c> guy</c>

00:49:32.069 --> 00:49:32.079 align:start position:0%
as a controls guy
 

00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:33.670 align:start position:0%
as a controls guy
is<00:49:32.400><c> when</c><00:49:32.559><c> we're</c><00:49:32.720><c> doing</c><00:49:32.880><c> some</c><00:49:33.119><c> early</c><00:49:33.359><c> work</c><00:49:33.599><c> on</c>

00:49:33.670 --> 00:49:33.680 align:start position:0%
is when we're doing some early work on
 

00:49:33.680 --> 00:49:35.589 align:start position:0%
is when we're doing some early work on
these<00:49:33.920><c> big</c><00:49:34.240><c> drag</c><00:49:34.559><c> line</c><00:49:34.800><c> excavators</c><00:49:35.280><c> so</c><00:49:35.440><c> this</c>

00:49:35.589 --> 00:49:35.599 align:start position:0%
these big drag line excavators so this
 

00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:36.870 align:start position:0%
these big drag line excavators so this
is<00:49:35.839><c> massive</c>

00:49:36.870 --> 00:49:36.880 align:start position:0%
is massive
 

00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:39.510 align:start position:0%
is massive
three<00:49:37.280><c> and</c><00:49:37.359><c> a</c><00:49:37.440><c> half</c><00:49:37.680><c> thousand</c><00:49:38.160><c> ton</c><00:49:38.400><c> machine</c>

00:49:39.510 --> 00:49:39.520 align:start position:0%
three and a half thousand ton machine
 

00:49:39.520 --> 00:49:39.990 align:start position:0%
three and a half thousand ton machine
and

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and
 

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and
we<00:49:40.559><c> it</c><00:49:40.800><c> rotates</c><00:49:41.280><c> on</c><00:49:41.440><c> its</c><00:49:41.680><c> base</c><00:49:42.880><c> and</c><00:49:43.200><c> so</c><00:49:43.520><c> i</c><00:49:43.680><c> was</c>

00:49:43.829 --> 00:49:43.839 align:start position:0%
we it rotates on its base and so i was
 

00:49:43.839 --> 00:49:45.589 align:start position:0%
we it rotates on its base and so i was
running<00:49:44.079><c> the</c><00:49:44.240><c> motion</c><00:49:44.640><c> control</c><00:49:45.040><c> software</c><00:49:45.440><c> for</c>

00:49:45.589 --> 00:49:45.599 align:start position:0%
running the motion control software for
 

00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:46.230 align:start position:0%
running the motion control software for
this

00:49:46.230 --> 00:49:46.240 align:start position:0%
this
 

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this
and<00:49:46.480><c> wanting</c><00:49:46.800><c> it</c><00:49:46.960><c> to</c><00:49:47.680><c> to</c><00:49:47.839><c> rotate</c><00:49:48.480><c> i</c><00:49:48.720><c> got</c><00:49:48.880><c> a</c><00:49:49.040><c> sign</c>

00:49:49.349 --> 00:49:49.359 align:start position:0%
and wanting it to to rotate i got a sign
 

00:49:49.359 --> 00:49:51.030 align:start position:0%
and wanting it to to rotate i got a sign
wrong<00:49:49.599><c> so</c><00:49:49.760><c> instead</c><00:49:50.000><c> of</c><00:49:50.160><c> negative</c><00:49:50.559><c> feedback</c><00:49:50.960><c> on</c>

00:49:51.030 --> 00:49:51.040 align:start position:0%
wrong so instead of negative feedback on
 

00:49:51.040 --> 00:49:52.870 align:start position:0%
wrong so instead of negative feedback on
this<00:49:51.119><c> thing</c><00:49:51.359><c> it</c><00:49:51.440><c> was</c><00:49:51.680><c> a</c><00:49:51.920><c> positive</c><00:49:52.319><c> feedback</c><00:49:52.720><c> so</c>

00:49:52.870 --> 00:49:52.880 align:start position:0%
this thing it was a positive feedback so
 

00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:53.670 align:start position:0%
this thing it was a positive feedback so
you<00:49:52.960><c> run</c><00:49:53.119><c> the</c><00:49:53.280><c> code</c>

00:49:53.670 --> 00:49:53.680 align:start position:0%
you run the code
 

00:49:53.680 --> 00:49:56.150 align:start position:0%
you run the code
the<00:49:53.839><c> whole</c><00:49:54.160><c> thing</c><00:49:54.319><c> just</c><00:49:54.640><c> started</c><00:49:55.040><c> moving</c><00:49:55.760><c> uh</c>

00:49:56.150 --> 00:49:56.160 align:start position:0%
the whole thing just started moving uh
 

00:49:56.160 --> 00:49:57.750 align:start position:0%
the whole thing just started moving uh
really<00:49:56.480><c> quickly</c><00:49:56.880><c> and</c><00:49:57.040><c> getting</c><00:49:57.280><c> faster</c><00:49:57.680><c> and</c>

00:49:57.750 --> 00:49:57.760 align:start position:0%
really quickly and getting faster and
 

00:49:57.760 --> 00:49:58.549 align:start position:0%
really quickly and getting faster and
faster

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faster
 

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faster
uh<00:49:58.960><c> not</c><00:49:59.200><c> slower</c><00:50:00.079><c> so</c><00:50:00.400><c> yeah</c><00:50:00.559><c> that</c><00:50:00.800><c> was</c>

00:50:01.670 --> 00:50:01.680 align:start position:0%
uh not slower so yeah that was
 

00:50:01.680 --> 00:50:04.870 align:start position:0%
uh not slower so yeah that was
that<00:50:01.839><c> was</c><00:50:03.280><c> that</c><00:50:03.440><c> was</c><00:50:03.599><c> spectacular</c><00:50:04.160><c> i</c><00:50:04.240><c> mean</c><00:50:04.559><c> did</c>

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that was that was spectacular i mean did
 

00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:05.349 align:start position:0%
that was that was spectacular i mean did
what

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what
 

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what
theoretically<00:50:05.920><c> it</c><00:50:06.000><c> should</c><00:50:06.240><c> do</c><00:50:06.480><c> but</c><00:50:06.720><c> i</c><00:50:06.800><c> was</c><00:50:07.040><c> on</c>

00:50:07.190 --> 00:50:07.200 align:start position:0%
theoretically it should do but i was on
 

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theoretically it should do but i was on
a<00:50:07.280><c> very</c><00:50:07.520><c> massive</c><00:50:07.839><c> machine</c><00:50:08.240><c> that</c><00:50:08.400><c> i'm</c><00:50:08.559><c> sitting</c>

00:50:08.870 --> 00:50:08.880 align:start position:0%
a very massive machine that i'm sitting
 

00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:09.270 align:start position:0%
a very massive machine that i'm sitting
in

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in
 

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in
right<00:50:10.319><c> i</c><00:50:10.400><c> mean</c><00:50:10.559><c> half</c><00:50:10.720><c> a</c><00:50:10.800><c> dozen</c><00:50:11.119><c> other</c><00:50:11.280><c> people</c>

00:50:11.510 --> 00:50:11.520 align:start position:0%
right i mean half a dozen other people
 

00:50:11.520 --> 00:50:13.109 align:start position:0%
right i mean half a dozen other people
are<00:50:11.599><c> sitting</c><00:50:11.839><c> in</c><00:50:12.079><c> as</c><00:50:12.240><c> well</c><00:50:12.480><c> it</c><00:50:12.559><c> was</c>

00:50:13.109 --> 00:50:13.119 align:start position:0%
are sitting in as well it was
 

00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:16.630 align:start position:0%
are sitting in as well it was
yeah<00:50:13.440><c> embarrassing</c><00:50:15.040><c> oh</c><00:50:15.200><c> you</c><00:50:15.359><c> eat</c><00:50:15.520><c> it</c>

00:50:16.630 --> 00:50:16.640 align:start position:0%
yeah embarrassing oh you eat it
 

00:50:16.640 --> 00:50:18.309 align:start position:0%
yeah embarrassing oh you eat it
it<00:50:16.800><c> just</c><00:50:16.880><c> took</c><00:50:17.119><c> a</c><00:50:17.200><c> minute</c><00:50:17.440><c> away</c><00:50:17.760><c> what's</c><00:50:18.079><c> what's</c>

00:50:18.309 --> 00:50:18.319 align:start position:0%
it just took a minute away what's what's
 

00:50:18.319 --> 00:50:23.990 align:start position:0%
it just took a minute away what's what's
going<00:50:18.559><c> on</c>

00:50:23.990 --> 00:50:24.000 align:start position:0%
 
 

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and<00:50:24.319><c> uh</c><00:50:24.480><c> what's</c><00:50:24.720><c> your</c><00:50:24.960><c> recommendation</c><00:50:25.680><c> to</c>

00:50:25.910 --> 00:50:25.920 align:start position:0%
and uh what's your recommendation to
 

00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:27.670 align:start position:0%
and uh what's your recommendation to
young<00:50:26.160><c> people</c><00:50:26.480><c> who</c><00:50:26.640><c> might</c><00:50:26.880><c> be</c><00:50:27.040><c> interested</c><00:50:27.520><c> in</c>

00:50:27.670 --> 00:50:27.680 align:start position:0%
young people who might be interested in
 

00:50:27.680 --> 00:50:29.910 align:start position:0%
young people who might be interested in
a<00:50:27.920><c> career</c><00:50:28.240><c> in</c><00:50:28.319><c> robotics</c>

00:50:29.910 --> 00:50:29.920 align:start position:0%
a career in robotics
 

00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:34.790 align:start position:0%
a career in robotics
uh<00:50:30.800><c> you</c><00:50:30.960><c> should</c><00:50:31.119><c> do</c><00:50:31.359><c> it</c><00:50:32.319><c> robotics</c><00:50:32.880><c> is</c><00:50:33.040><c> gonna</c><00:50:33.280><c> be</c>

00:50:34.790 --> 00:50:34.800 align:start position:0%
uh you should do it robotics is gonna be
 

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uh you should do it robotics is gonna be
you<00:50:34.880><c> know</c><00:50:35.280><c> it's</c><00:50:35.440><c> gonna</c><00:50:35.680><c> be</c><00:50:35.839><c> a</c><00:50:35.920><c> really</c><00:50:36.160><c> big</c>

00:50:36.309 --> 00:50:36.319 align:start position:0%
you know it's gonna be a really big
 

00:50:36.319 --> 00:50:37.750 align:start position:0%
you know it's gonna be a really big
thing<00:50:36.480><c> in</c><00:50:36.559><c> the</c><00:50:36.640><c> future</c><00:50:36.960><c> i</c><00:50:37.040><c> mean</c><00:50:37.200><c> you</c><00:50:37.520><c> just</c>

00:50:37.750 --> 00:50:37.760 align:start position:0%
thing in the future i mean you just
 

00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:38.549 align:start position:0%
thing in the future i mean you just
think<00:50:37.920><c> about</c><00:50:38.240><c> it</c>

00:50:38.549 --> 00:50:38.559 align:start position:0%
think about it
 

00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:39.990 align:start position:0%
think about it
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00:50:39.990 --> 00:50:40.000 align:start position:0%
10 years time are they going to be more
 

00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:41.670 align:start position:0%
10 years time are they going to be more
robust<00:50:40.319><c> to</c><00:50:40.400><c> the</c><00:50:40.480><c> world</c><00:50:40.720><c> or</c><00:50:40.880><c> less</c><00:50:41.440><c> there's</c>

00:50:41.670 --> 00:50:41.680 align:start position:0%
robust to the world or less there's
 

00:50:41.680 --> 00:50:43.109 align:start position:0%
robust to the world or less there's
going<00:50:41.760><c> to</c><00:50:41.920><c> be</c><00:50:42.079><c> more</c>

00:50:43.109 --> 00:50:43.119 align:start position:0%
going to be more
 

00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:46.390 align:start position:0%
going to be more
because<00:50:43.599><c> there's</c><00:50:43.839><c> a</c><00:50:43.920><c> whole</c><00:50:44.319><c> bunch</c><00:50:44.880><c> of</c><00:50:46.000><c> i</c><00:50:46.160><c> think</c>

00:50:46.390 --> 00:50:46.400 align:start position:0%
because there's a whole bunch of i think
 

00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:48.309 align:start position:0%
because there's a whole bunch of i think
societal<00:50:47.119><c> pressures</c><00:50:47.680><c> which</c><00:50:47.920><c> are</c><00:50:48.000><c> going</c><00:50:48.160><c> to</c>

00:50:48.309 --> 00:50:48.319 align:start position:0%
societal pressures which are going to
 

00:50:48.319 --> 00:50:50.309 align:start position:0%
societal pressures which are going to
cause

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cause
 

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cause
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00:50:54.470 --> 00:50:54.480 align:start position:0%
more robots to be adopted in society as
 

00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:56.870 align:start position:0%
more robots to be adopted in society as
demographic<00:50:55.200><c> shift</c><00:50:55.680><c> as</c><00:50:55.839><c> a</c><00:50:55.920><c> population</c><00:50:56.480><c> we</c><00:50:56.640><c> get</c>

00:50:56.870 --> 00:50:56.880 align:start position:0%
demographic shift as a population we get
 

00:50:56.880 --> 00:50:58.549 align:start position:0%
demographic shift as a population we get
older<00:50:57.440><c> there's</c><00:50:57.599><c> a</c><00:50:57.680><c> whole</c><00:50:57.839><c> bunch</c><00:50:58.079><c> of</c><00:50:58.240><c> labor</c>

00:50:58.549 --> 00:50:58.559 align:start position:0%
older there's a whole bunch of labor
 

00:50:58.559 --> 00:50:59.829 align:start position:0%
older there's a whole bunch of labor
still<00:50:58.800><c> needs</c><00:50:59.040><c> to</c><00:50:59.119><c> be</c><00:50:59.280><c> done</c><00:50:59.440><c> but</c><00:50:59.599><c> i</c><00:50:59.680><c> think</c>

00:50:59.829 --> 00:50:59.839 align:start position:0%
still needs to be done but i think
 

00:50:59.839 --> 00:51:01.510 align:start position:0%
still needs to be done but i think
there's<00:51:00.000><c> going</c><00:51:00.160><c> to</c><00:51:00.240><c> be</c><00:51:00.319><c> less</c><00:51:00.559><c> people</c><00:51:00.880><c> to</c><00:51:01.040><c> do</c><00:51:01.200><c> it</c>

00:51:01.510 --> 00:51:01.520 align:start position:0%
there's going to be less people to do it
 

00:51:01.520 --> 00:51:03.190 align:start position:0%
there's going to be less people to do it
there's<00:51:02.000><c> in</c><00:51:02.319><c> agriculture</c><00:51:02.880><c> which</c><00:51:03.040><c> is</c><00:51:03.119><c> a</c>

00:51:03.190 --> 00:51:03.200 align:start position:0%
there's in agriculture which is a
 

00:51:03.200 --> 00:51:05.109 align:start position:0%
there's in agriculture which is a
current<00:51:03.520><c> interest</c><00:51:03.760><c> of</c><00:51:03.920><c> mine</c>

00:51:05.109 --> 00:51:05.119 align:start position:0%
current interest of mine
 

00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:06.470 align:start position:0%
current interest of mine
you<00:51:05.280><c> know</c><00:51:05.359><c> there's</c><00:51:05.599><c> going</c><00:51:05.680><c> to</c><00:51:05.760><c> be</c><00:51:05.920><c> more</c><00:51:06.160><c> mouths</c>

00:51:06.470 --> 00:51:06.480 align:start position:0%
you know there's going to be more mouths
 

00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:08.390 align:start position:0%
you know there's going to be more mouths
to<00:51:06.640><c> feed</c><00:51:06.960><c> on</c><00:51:07.040><c> the</c><00:51:07.200><c> planet</c><00:51:07.520><c> there's</c><00:51:07.760><c> less</c><00:51:08.079><c> land</c>

00:51:08.390 --> 00:51:08.400 align:start position:0%
to feed on the planet there's less land
 

00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:09.190 align:start position:0%
to feed on the planet there's less land
because<00:51:08.880><c> of</c>

00:51:09.190 --> 00:51:09.200 align:start position:0%
because of
 

00:51:09.200 --> 00:51:12.069 align:start position:0%
because of
urban<00:51:09.599><c> encroachment</c><00:51:10.480><c> climate's</c><00:51:11.040><c> changing</c>

00:51:12.069 --> 00:51:12.079 align:start position:0%
urban encroachment climate's changing
 

00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:12.950 align:start position:0%
urban encroachment climate's changing
all<00:51:12.240><c> sorts</c><00:51:12.640><c> of</c>

00:51:12.950 --> 00:51:12.960 align:start position:0%
all sorts of
 

00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:15.109 align:start position:0%
all sorts of
all<00:51:13.119><c> sorts</c><00:51:13.359><c> of</c><00:51:13.520><c> things</c><00:51:14.160><c> i</c><00:51:14.319><c> don't</c><00:51:14.480><c> think</c><00:51:14.640><c> we</c><00:51:14.800><c> can</c>

00:51:15.109 --> 00:51:15.119 align:start position:0%
all sorts of things i don't think we can
 

00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:17.030 align:start position:0%
all sorts of things i don't think we can
produce<00:51:15.760><c> food</c>

00:51:17.030 --> 00:51:17.040 align:start position:0%
produce food
 

00:51:17.040 --> 00:51:19.589 align:start position:0%
produce food
as<00:51:17.200><c> much</c><00:51:17.440><c> food</c><00:51:17.680><c> as</c><00:51:17.839><c> we</c><00:51:18.000><c> need</c><00:51:18.400><c> unless</c><00:51:18.720><c> we</c><00:51:18.960><c> adopt</c>

00:51:19.589 --> 00:51:19.599 align:start position:0%
as much food as we need unless we adopt
 

00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:21.270 align:start position:0%
as much food as we need unless we adopt
technology<00:51:20.079><c> like</c><00:51:20.319><c> robotics</c>

00:51:21.270 --> 00:51:21.280 align:start position:0%
technology like robotics
 

00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:22.470 align:start position:0%
technology like robotics
it's<00:51:21.440><c> going</c><00:51:21.599><c> to</c><00:51:21.680><c> be</c><00:51:21.920><c> you</c><00:51:22.000><c> know</c><00:51:22.160><c> it's</c><00:51:22.319><c> going</c><00:51:22.400><c> to</c>

00:51:22.470 --> 00:51:22.480 align:start position:0%
it's going to be you know it's going to
 

00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:24.549 align:start position:0%
it's going to be you know it's going to
be<00:51:22.640><c> important</c><00:51:23.040><c> in</c><00:51:23.119><c> health</c><00:51:23.440><c> care</c>

00:51:24.549 --> 00:51:24.559 align:start position:0%
be important in health care
 

00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:26.870 align:start position:0%
be important in health care
which<00:51:24.800><c> is</c><00:51:24.960><c> something</c><00:51:25.440><c> that</c><00:51:26.079><c> most</c><00:51:26.319><c> societies</c>

00:51:26.870 --> 00:51:26.880 align:start position:0%
which is something that most societies
 

00:51:26.880 --> 00:51:28.950 align:start position:0%
which is something that most societies
just<00:51:27.119><c> can't</c><00:51:27.440><c> afford</c>

00:51:28.950 --> 00:51:28.960 align:start position:0%
just can't afford
 

00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:30.630 align:start position:0%
just can't afford
the<00:51:29.119><c> health</c><00:51:29.440><c> care</c><00:51:29.680><c> that</c><00:51:29.839><c> their</c><00:51:30.079><c> citizens</c>

00:51:30.630 --> 00:51:30.640 align:start position:0%
the health care that their citizens
 

00:51:30.640 --> 00:51:33.109 align:start position:0%
the health care that their citizens
expect<00:51:31.680><c> and</c><00:51:32.000><c> i</c><00:51:32.160><c> think</c><00:51:32.319><c> robots</c><00:51:32.720><c> going</c><00:51:32.880><c> to</c><00:51:32.960><c> play</c>

00:51:33.109 --> 00:51:33.119 align:start position:0%
expect and i think robots going to play
 

00:51:33.119 --> 00:51:34.549 align:start position:0%
expect and i think robots going to play
an<00:51:33.280><c> important</c><00:51:33.680><c> role</c><00:51:33.920><c> there</c>

00:51:34.549 --> 00:51:34.559 align:start position:0%
an important role there
 

00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:37.190 align:start position:0%
an important role there
so<00:51:34.800><c> labor</c><00:51:34.800><c> labor-intensive</c><00:51:36.559><c> and</c><00:51:36.960><c> there</c><00:51:37.119><c> are</c>

00:51:37.190 --> 00:51:37.200 align:start position:0%
so labor labor-intensive and there are
 

00:51:37.200 --> 00:51:38.870 align:start position:0%
so labor labor-intensive and there are
some<00:51:37.440><c> jobs</c><00:51:37.680><c> that</c><00:51:37.839><c> are</c><00:51:37.920><c> simple</c><00:51:38.160><c> enough</c><00:51:38.480><c> robots</c>

00:51:38.870 --> 00:51:38.880 align:start position:0%
some jobs that are simple enough robots
 

00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:39.750 align:start position:0%
some jobs that are simple enough robots
could<00:51:38.960><c> do</c><00:51:39.119><c> them</c><00:51:39.280><c> now</c>

00:51:39.750 --> 00:51:39.760 align:start position:0%
could do them now
 

00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:41.270 align:start position:0%
could do them now
and<00:51:39.839><c> as</c><00:51:40.000><c> robots</c><00:51:40.400><c> get</c><00:51:40.480><c> more</c><00:51:40.640><c> capable</c><00:51:41.040><c> than</c><00:51:41.200><c> they</c>

00:51:41.270 --> 00:51:41.280 align:start position:0%
and as robots get more capable than they
 

00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:42.950 align:start position:0%
and as robots get more capable than they
can<00:51:41.440><c> do</c><00:51:41.599><c> more</c><00:51:41.839><c> and</c><00:51:41.920><c> more</c>

00:51:42.950 --> 00:51:42.960 align:start position:0%
can do more and more
 

00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:46.069 align:start position:0%
can do more and more
uh<00:51:43.119><c> sophisticated</c><00:51:43.920><c> tasks</c><00:51:44.240><c> so</c><00:51:45.040><c> there's</c><00:51:45.680><c> huge</c>

00:51:46.069 --> 00:51:46.079 align:start position:0%
uh sophisticated tasks so there's huge
 

00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:48.470 align:start position:0%
uh sophisticated tasks so there's huge
huge<00:51:46.400><c> opportunities</c><00:51:47.200><c> in</c><00:51:47.440><c> in</c><00:51:47.599><c> robotics</c>

00:51:48.470 --> 00:51:48.480 align:start position:0%
huge opportunities in in robotics
 

00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:51.510 align:start position:0%
huge opportunities in in robotics
so<00:51:48.640><c> yeah</c><00:51:49.040><c> get</c><00:51:49.280><c> into</c><00:51:49.520><c> it</c>

00:51:51.510 --> 00:51:51.520 align:start position:0%
so yeah get into it
 

00:51:51.520 --> 00:51:53.030 align:start position:0%
so yeah get into it
now<00:51:51.680><c> what</c><00:51:51.760><c> do</c><00:51:51.920><c> you</c><00:51:52.000><c> see</c><00:51:52.160><c> as</c><00:51:52.240><c> the</c><00:51:52.400><c> biggest</c><00:51:52.880><c> kind</c>

00:51:53.030 --> 00:51:53.040 align:start position:0%
now what do you see as the biggest kind
 

00:51:53.040 --> 00:51:55.349 align:start position:0%
now what do you see as the biggest kind
of<00:51:53.440><c> theoretical</c><00:51:54.079><c> or</c><00:51:54.319><c> technical</c><00:51:54.880><c> problems</c>

00:51:55.349 --> 00:51:55.359 align:start position:0%
of theoretical or technical problems
 

00:51:55.359 --> 00:51:57.270 align:start position:0%
of theoretical or technical problems
facing<00:51:55.760><c> robotics</c><00:51:56.319><c> over</c><00:51:56.480><c> the</c><00:51:56.640><c> next</c>

00:51:57.270 --> 00:51:57.280 align:start position:0%
facing robotics over the next
 

00:51:57.280 --> 00:52:00.549 align:start position:0%
facing robotics over the next
five<00:51:57.520><c> to</c><00:51:57.680><c> ten</c><00:51:58.079><c> years</c><00:51:58.480><c> or</c><00:51:58.640><c> beyond</c>

00:52:00.549 --> 00:52:00.559 align:start position:0%
five to ten years or beyond
 

00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:03.750 align:start position:0%
five to ten years or beyond
i<00:52:00.960><c> think</c><00:52:01.200><c> it's</c><00:52:01.440><c> probably</c><00:52:01.920><c> just</c><00:52:02.160><c> picking</c>

00:52:03.750 --> 00:52:03.760 align:start position:0%
i think it's probably just picking
 

00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:06.309 align:start position:0%
i think it's probably just picking
picking<00:52:04.079><c> the</c><00:52:04.240><c> right</c><00:52:04.559><c> problems</c><00:52:05.119><c> to</c><00:52:05.440><c> to</c><00:52:05.680><c> solve</c><00:52:06.160><c> i</c>

00:52:06.309 --> 00:52:06.319 align:start position:0%
picking the right problems to to solve i
 

00:52:06.319 --> 00:52:07.030 align:start position:0%
picking the right problems to to solve i
think

00:52:07.030 --> 00:52:07.040 align:start position:0%
think
 

00:52:07.040 --> 00:52:09.510 align:start position:0%
think
a<00:52:07.280><c> lot</c><00:52:07.440><c> of</c><00:52:07.520><c> the</c><00:52:07.760><c> technologies</c><00:52:08.640><c> techniques</c><00:52:09.280><c> we</c>

00:52:09.510 --> 00:52:09.520 align:start position:0%
a lot of the technologies techniques we
 

00:52:09.520 --> 00:52:11.829 align:start position:0%
a lot of the technologies techniques we
want

00:52:11.829 --> 00:52:11.839 align:start position:0%
want
 

00:52:11.839 --> 00:52:13.270 align:start position:0%
want
are<00:52:12.079><c> already</c><00:52:12.480><c> there</c><00:52:12.640><c> i</c><00:52:12.720><c> think</c><00:52:12.880><c> we</c><00:52:13.040><c> have</c>

00:52:13.270 --> 00:52:13.280 align:start position:0%
are already there i think we have
 

00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:15.190 align:start position:0%
are already there i think we have
sufficiently<00:52:14.000><c> good</c>

00:52:15.190 --> 00:52:15.200 align:start position:0%
sufficiently good
 

00:52:15.200 --> 00:52:17.990 align:start position:0%
sufficiently good
techniques<00:52:15.760><c> i</c><00:52:15.920><c> think</c><00:52:17.040><c> we</c><00:52:17.200><c> often</c><00:52:17.440><c> don't</c><00:52:17.680><c> have</c>

00:52:17.990 --> 00:52:18.000 align:start position:0%
techniques i think we often don't have
 

00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:18.470 align:start position:0%
techniques i think we often don't have
is

00:52:18.470 --> 00:52:18.480 align:start position:0%
is
 

00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:21.670 align:start position:0%
is
is<00:52:18.559><c> the</c><00:52:18.720><c> business</c><00:52:20.240><c> the</c><00:52:20.400><c> business</c><00:52:20.880><c> case</c>

00:52:21.670 --> 00:52:21.680 align:start position:0%
is the business the business case
 

00:52:21.680 --> 00:52:24.950 align:start position:0%
is the business the business case
but<00:52:21.920><c> i</c><00:52:22.079><c> think</c><00:52:22.400><c> in</c><00:52:22.640><c> general</c>

00:52:24.950 --> 00:52:24.960 align:start position:0%
but i think in general
 

00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:26.549 align:start position:0%
but i think in general
it's<00:52:25.359><c> not</c><00:52:25.520><c> the</c><00:52:25.680><c> techniques</c><00:52:26.160><c> it's</c><00:52:26.240><c> not</c><00:52:26.400><c> the</c>

00:52:26.549 --> 00:52:26.559 align:start position:0%
it's not the techniques it's not the
 

00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:28.309 align:start position:0%
it's not the techniques it's not the
computers<00:52:27.119><c> they're</c><00:52:27.359><c> not</c><00:52:27.520><c> what's</c><00:52:27.760><c> holding</c><00:52:28.160><c> us</c>

00:52:28.309 --> 00:52:28.319 align:start position:0%
computers they're not what's holding us
 

00:52:28.319 --> 00:52:29.430 align:start position:0%
computers they're not what's holding us
back<00:52:28.640><c> i</c><00:52:28.720><c> think</c><00:52:28.960><c> we're</c>

00:52:29.430 --> 00:52:29.440 align:start position:0%
back i think we're
 

00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:32.069 align:start position:0%
back i think we're
probably<00:52:30.000><c> not</c><00:52:30.319><c> focusing</c><00:52:30.880><c> on</c><00:52:31.520><c> all</c><00:52:31.680><c> the</c><00:52:31.760><c> right</c>

00:52:32.069 --> 00:52:32.079 align:start position:0%
probably not focusing on all the right
 

00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:37.430 align:start position:0%
probably not focusing on all the right
problems

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so<00:52:37.680><c> it's</c><00:52:37.920><c> the</c><00:52:38.079><c> comm</c><00:52:38.480><c> the</c><00:52:38.559><c> problems</c><00:52:38.960><c> really</c>

00:52:39.190 --> 00:52:39.200 align:start position:0%
so it's the comm the problems really
 

00:52:39.200 --> 00:52:40.710 align:start position:0%
so it's the comm the problems really
around<00:52:39.520><c> the</c><00:52:39.599><c> commercialization</c><00:52:40.480><c> of</c><00:52:40.559><c> the</c>

00:52:40.710 --> 00:52:40.720 align:start position:0%
around the commercialization of the
 

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around the commercialization of the
technology

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is<00:52:44.160><c> there</c><00:52:44.319><c> anything</c><00:52:44.640><c> that</c><00:52:44.800><c> we</c><00:52:44.960><c> missed</c>

00:52:45.750 --> 00:52:45.760 align:start position:0%
is there anything that we missed
 

00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:47.109 align:start position:0%
is there anything that we missed
anything<00:52:46.240><c> you'd</c><00:52:46.400><c> like</c><00:52:46.640><c> to</c>

00:52:47.109 --> 00:52:47.119 align:start position:0%
anything you'd like to
 

00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:51.510 align:start position:0%
anything you'd like to
add<00:52:47.520><c> or</c><00:52:47.680><c> talk</c><00:52:47.920><c> about</c><00:52:48.480><c> ah</c><00:52:50.000><c> i</c><00:52:50.160><c> don't</c><00:52:50.400><c> think</c><00:52:50.640><c> so</c>

00:52:51.510 --> 00:52:51.520 align:start position:0%
add or talk about ah i don't think so
 

00:52:51.520 --> 00:52:55.589 align:start position:0%
add or talk about ah i don't think so
it's<00:52:51.760><c> been</c><00:52:51.920><c> a</c><00:52:52.000><c> good</c><00:52:52.160><c> chat</c><00:52:52.880><c> yeah</c>

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we<00:52:55.760><c> got</c><00:52:56.000><c> through</c><00:52:56.160><c> a</c><00:52:56.240><c> lot</c><00:52:56.559><c> very</c><00:52:56.720><c> quickly</c><00:52:58.400><c> that's</c>

00:52:58.630 --> 00:52:58.640 align:start position:0%
we got through a lot very quickly that's
 

00:52:58.640 --> 00:53:00.309 align:start position:0%
we got through a lot very quickly that's
great<00:52:59.040><c> okay</c>

00:53:00.309 --> 00:53:00.319 align:start position:0%
great okay
 

00:53:00.319 --> 00:53:03.599 align:start position:0%
great okay
thank<00:53:00.480><c> you</c><00:53:01.040><c> no</c><00:53:01.200><c> worries</c>