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align:start position:0% excitement you know i mean we had this uh 00:30:27.669 --> 00:30:27.679 align:start position:0% uh 00:30:27.679 --> 00:30:30.070 align:start position:0% uh another<00:30:28.000> thing<00:30:28.320> pam<00:30:28.640> and<00:30:28.799> i<00:30:29.039> applied<00:30:29.600> for 00:30:30.070 --> 00:30:30.080 align:start position:0% another thing pam and i applied for 00:30:30.080 --> 00:30:31.190 align:start position:0% another thing pam and i applied for money 00:30:31.190 --> 00:30:31.200 align:start position:0% money 00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:34.149 align:start position:0% money for<00:30:31.440> a<00:30:31.679> graduate<00:30:32.320> student<00:30:33.279> workshop<00:30:33.919> or 00:30:34.149 --> 00:30:34.159 align:start position:0% for a graduate student workshop or 00:30:34.159 --> 00:30:37.350 align:start position:0% for a graduate student workshop or conference<00:30:34.720> and<00:30:34.880> we<00:30:35.039> did<00:30:35.200> that<00:30:35.520> 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something like that which meant that 00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:31.350 align:start position:0% or something like that which meant that we<00:32:30.720> had 00:32:31.350 --> 00:32:31.360 align:start position:0% we had 00:32:31.360 --> 00:32:35.830 align:start position:0% we had um<00:32:34.320> you<00:32:34.399> know<00:32:34.640> a<00:32:34.880> standard 00:32:35.830 --> 00:32:35.840 align:start position:0% um you know a standard 00:32:35.840 --> 00:32:39.110 align:start position:0% um you know a standard rate<00:32:36.159> for<00:32:36.399> very<00:32:36.720> good<00:32:36.960> conferences<00:32:37.840> 24 00:32:39.110 --> 00:32:39.120 align:start position:0% rate for very good conferences 24 00:32:39.120 --> 00:32:43.590 align:start position:0% rate for very good conferences 24 selection<00:32:40.000> or<00:32:40.840> less<00:32:41.919> and 00:32:43.590 --> 00:32:43.600 align:start position:0% selection or less and 00:32:43.600 --> 00:32:46.710 align:start position:0% selection or less 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00:43:46.710 align:start position:0% and so the question now is how do you model 00:43:46.710 --> 00:43:46.720 align:start position:0% model 00:43:46.720 --> 00:43:48.470 align:start position:0% model the<00:43:46.880> way<00:43:47.040> it<00:43:47.200> should<00:43:47.440> be<00:43:47.839> given<00:43:48.160> that<00:43:48.319> the 00:43:48.470 --> 00:43:48.480 align:start position:0% the way it should be given that the 00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:50.470 align:start position:0% the way it should be given that the robot<00:43:49.040> is<00:43:49.200> not<00:43:49.440> going<00:43:49.599> to<00:43:49.680> be<00:43:49.839> able<00:43:50.000> to<00:43:50.160> act 00:43:50.470 --> 00:43:50.480 align:start position:0% robot is not going to be able to act 00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:52.950 align:start position:0% robot is not going to be able to act just<00:43:50.720> like<00:43:50.880> a<00:43:51.040> person 00:43:52.950 --> 00:43:52.960 align:start position:0% just like a person 00:43:52.960 --> 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00:54:13.280 align:start position:0% first of all it turns out that it's 00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:15.430 align:start position:0% first of all it turns out that it's really<00:54:13.599> really<00:54:14.000> hard<00:54:14.400> to<00:54:14.640> build 00:54:15.430 --> 00:54:15.440 align:start position:0% really really hard to build 00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:20.390 align:start position:0% really really hard to build um<00:54:15.839> economical<00:54:16.880> robots<00:54:18.160> that<00:54:18.400> make<00:54:18.640> sense 00:54:20.390 --> 00:54:20.400 align:start position:0% um economical robots that make sense 00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:23.270 align:start position:0% um economical robots that make sense i<00:54:20.559> think<00:54:20.800> irobot<00:54:21.839> has<00:54:22.079> done<00:54:22.480> an<00:54:22.640> incredible 00:54:23.270 --> 00:54:23.280 align:start position:0% i think irobot has done an incredible 00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:24.230 align:start position:0% i think irobot has done an 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