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it 00:34:43.190 --> 00:34:43.200 align:start position:0% pragmatist so i'm quite happy to do it 00:34:43.200 --> 00:34:44.950 align:start position:0% pragmatist so i'm quite happy to do it in<00:34:43.280> a<00:34:43.359> way<00:34:43.599> that<00:34:43.760> they<00:34:44.079> don't 00:34:44.950 --> 00:34:44.960 align:start position:0% in a way that they don't 00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:47.990 align:start position:0% in a way that they don't so<00:34:45.200> for<00:34:45.359> example<00:34:47.599> early 00:34:47.990 --> 00:34:48.000 align:start position:0% so for example early 00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:49.990 align:start position:0% so for example early on<00:34:48.240> after<00:34:48.480> we<00:34:48.639> did<00:34:48.800> this<00:34:48.960> two-dimensional 00:34:49.990 --> 00:34:50.000 align:start position:0% on after we did this two-dimensional 00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:51.909 align:start position:0% on after we did this two-dimensional recognition<00:34:50.560> we<00:34:50.720> 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