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okay so we're just going to generally
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ask you some questions about
 

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ask you some questions about
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how were you born and grew up in your
 

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how were you born and grew up in your
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early education
 

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and how you learned that okay go ask him
 

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and how you learned that okay go ask him
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so where were you born and
 

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so where were you born and
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where did you start your education in
 

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where did you start your education in
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what did you do your undergraduate uh
 

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what did you do your undergraduate uh
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what did you study there mathematics
 

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what did you study there mathematics
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and uh when did you start to become
 

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and uh when did you start to become
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in the fall
 

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in the fall
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of 1948 there was a conference
 

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of 1948 there was a conference
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at caltech called hixson
 

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at caltech called hixson
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hi-xon symposium on cerebral mechanisms
 

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hi-xon symposium on cerebral mechanisms
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and it gave me the idea of using
 

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and it gave me the idea of using
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for to behave intelligently
 

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and many years later after when i got
 

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but my lecture be autobiographical
 

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to look up who had talked about using
 

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to look up who had talked about using
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computers to behave intelligently
 

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that i had simply jumped to the
 

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that i had simply jumped to the
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both uh john von neumann and warren
 

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mcculloch were at that
 

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mcculloch were at that
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well i've had had subsequent
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interaction with von neumann
 

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i never had any personal interaction
 

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i never had any personal interaction
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uh was that interaction on theory of
 

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uh was that interaction on theory of
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computation or automatic theory
 

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so this was 1948 i had just graduated
 

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so this was 1948 i had just graduated
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and spent a year an additional year at
 

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and spent a year an additional year at
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caltech as a graduate student
 

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and then i went to princeton as a
 

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and when i went to princeton
 

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and when i went to princeton
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uh i went to see the neumann
 

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and uh told him about some ideas that i
 

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and uh told him about some ideas that i
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after just a little bit of further
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i decided that the ideas that i'd
 

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were not very good so i didn't write
 

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were not very good so i didn't write
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i should have but because
 

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they were reinvented by other people or
 

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at least some of them were
 

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at least some of them were
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and the problem with it was
 

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that there was no way
 

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in that model of putting particular
 

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in that model of putting particular
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the brain learning particular facts or
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and so that was 1949
 

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and so that was 1949
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in which uh
 

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i did discuss how to make the brain
 

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learn particular facts that is
 

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learn particular facts that is
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representing uh
 

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perhaps in mathematical logic
 

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called programs with common sense
 

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did play an important role in starting
 

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did play an important role in starting
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did you continue your conversations with
 

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did you continue your conversations with
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von neumann on these talks
 

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when i organize the
 

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conference on artificial intelligence
 

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i wanted one neumann i wanted to invite
 

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i wanted one neumann i wanted to invite
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as a participant but
 

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i kind of doubt that he would have liked
 

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i kind of doubt that he would have liked
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alan newell told me about his
 

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alan newell told me about his
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negative reaction to newell's ideas on a
 

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negative reaction to newell's ideas on a
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and it wasn't quite the same thing
 

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and it wasn't quite the same thing
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it allowed me to feel that of course
 

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this is many years later that
 

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this is many years later that
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he might not have had a positive
 

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he might not have had a positive
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reaction to my ideas
 

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what was his objections with the chess
 

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what was his objections with the chess
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i don't know maybe
 

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i don't know maybe
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newell told me and i don't remember
 

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newell told me and i don't remember
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only headed second hand
 

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was a consultant to rand corporation
 

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and so was mondayman and
 

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and so was mondayman and
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uh maybe
 

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uh maybe
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uh you know
 

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when i'm undiscouraged iran corporation
 

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when i'm undiscouraged iran corporation
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so how did you come which is bad advice
 

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so how did you come which is bad advice
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which rant corporation fortunately did
 

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which rant corporation fortunately did
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not take
 

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so what what
 

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what led you to organize the conference
 

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what led you to organize the conference
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at dartmouth
 

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at dartmouth
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i'm not a very good organizer
 

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but i have quite good
 

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but i have quite good
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initiative in deciding that something
 

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initiative in deciding that something
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should be organized
 

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and um previously i
 

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and um previously i
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organized i
 

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got together with claude shannon
 

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got together with claude shannon
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we sent out invitations to contribute
 

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we sent out invitations to contribute
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papers to something
 

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that later was published as
 

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that later was published as
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maybe it was published in some
 

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maybe it was published in some
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autonomous studies
 

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autonomous studies
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anyway it was published by princeton
 

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anyway it was published by princeton
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university press
 

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and did you know most of the
 

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and did you know most of the
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contributors before you
 

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contributors before you
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issued a call or did you meet them
 

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issued a call or did you meet them
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through the process of
 

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now i knew minsky because he was a
 

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now i knew minsky because he was a
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fellow graduate student at
 

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fellow graduate student at
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uh

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uh
 

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uh
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unlike minsky who has a big talent for
 

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unlike minsky who has a big talent for
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when i was in mit i never went to see
 

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when i was in mit i never went to see
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mcculloch
 

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mcculloch
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and actually
 

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and actually
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attempted to avoid
 

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attempted to avoid
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because having read his book
 

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because having read his book
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why did you think that your ideas
 

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why did you think that your ideas
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wedded to the idea of
 

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wedded to the idea of
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mathematical feedback in the sense that
 

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mathematical feedback in the sense that
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there was
 

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there was
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a numerical measure of the difference
 

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a numerical measure of the difference
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between
 

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between
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where you were and where you wanted to
 

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where you were and where you wanted to
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get to
 

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get to
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were quite different we're interested
 

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were quite different we're interested
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are in
 

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are in
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uh logical deduction
 

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uh logical deduction
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from facts that you had to
 

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from facts that you had to
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uh facts about how to achieve a goal
 

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uh facts about how to achieve a goal
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cybernetic form but neither i nor
 

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cybernetic form but neither i nor
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anybody else ever did
 

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anybody else ever did
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but i talked about it from time to time
 

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but i talked about it from time to time
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now the slogan of cybernetics
 

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now the slogan of cybernetics
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was very popular
 

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was very popular
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particularly in the soviet union
 

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particularly in the soviet union
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as soon as they were allowed to stop
 

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as soon as they were allowed to stop
attacking<00:13:04.839><c> it</c>

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attacking it
 

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attacking it
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as long as stalin was alive they had to
 

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as long as stalin was alive they had to
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that<00:13:41.120><c> was</c>

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after i got my phd
 

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after i got my phd
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it<00:14:00.000><c> was</c><00:14:00.839><c> um</c>

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it was um
 

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it was um
on<00:14:05.680><c> solving</c>

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on solving
 

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on solving
differential<00:14:07.199><c> equations</c>

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differential equations
 

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differential equations
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between a space of gradients
 

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between a space of gradients
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and a space of vector fields
 

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and a space of vector fields
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that satisfied
 

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that satisfied
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and then um where when did you arrive at
 

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and then um where when did you arrive at
mit

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mit
 

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mit
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what when did you start at mit
 

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what when did you start at mit
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oh uh when i got my phd
 

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oh uh when i got my phd
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i stayed at two years at princeton as an
 

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i stayed at two years at princeton as an
instructor

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instructor
 

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instructor
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and after a year stanford decided they
 

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and after a year stanford decided they
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had three
 

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had three
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acting assistant professors and they
 

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acting assistant professors and they
kept

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kept
 

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kept
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two of them and i was the third and i
 

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two of them and i was the third and i
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and then um
 

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and then um
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uh our set to set up the new england
 

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uh our set to set up the new england
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computation center
 

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computation center
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and it was physically at mit
 

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and it was physically at mit
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and uh a third of its time was
 

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and uh a third of its time was
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devoted well went to mit directly
 

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devoted well went to mit directly
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um

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um
 

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um
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available to new england colleges
 

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available to new england colleges
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and uh i ended up being the dartmouth
 

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and uh i ended up being the dartmouth
representative

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representative
 

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representative
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on that and
 

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on that and
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oh i picked up computing very fast
 

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oh i picked up computing very fast
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oh that was because i had spent a summer
 

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oh that was because i had spent a summer
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at ibm
 

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at ibm
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and what kind of projects were you
 

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and what kind of projects were you
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well<00:16:48.839><c> um</c>

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mostly still most of my time was in pure
 

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mostly still most of my time was in pure
mathematics

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considering pure mathematics which is
 

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considering pure mathematics which is
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they made quite reasonable decision in
 

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they made quite reasonable decision in
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deciding they'd keep the other two guys
 

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deciding they'd keep the other two guys
and

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and
 

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and
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let me go
 

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let me go
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because while i was a pure mathematician
 

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because while i was a pure mathematician
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be distracted by thinking about
 

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be distracted by thinking about
ai<00:17:39.600><c> but</c>

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at that time not really getting
 

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at that time not really getting
far<00:17:45.520><c> enough</c><00:17:46.000><c> to</c><00:17:47.280><c> in</c>

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far enough to in
 

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far enough to in
my<00:17:48.799><c> major</c><00:17:49.280><c> ideas</c><00:17:51.039><c> to</c><00:17:51.280><c> publish</c>

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my major ideas to publish
 

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my major ideas to publish
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i only got that far in 1958
 

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i only got that far in 1958
i<00:17:57.360><c> was</c>

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um when did you start actually
 

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um when did you start actually
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programming computers with what you
 

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programming computers with what you
considered<00:18:10.720><c> to</c><00:18:10.880><c> be</c><00:18:11.039><c> ai</c>

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considered to be ai
 

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considered to be ai
well<00:18:13.760><c> the</c><00:18:13.919><c> first</c><00:18:14.160><c> thing</c><00:18:14.480><c> i</c><00:18:14.640><c> did</c><00:18:14.960><c> was</c><00:18:15.200><c> start</c><00:18:15.600><c> to</c>

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well the first thing i did was start to
 

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well the first thing i did was start to
write<00:18:16.000><c> a</c><00:18:16.160><c> chess</c><00:18:16.480><c> program</c>

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write a chess program
 

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write a chess program
which<00:18:18.320><c> i</c><00:18:18.480><c> wrote</c><00:18:18.720><c> in</c><00:18:18.880><c> fortran</c>

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and

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i<00:18:24.880><c> wrote</c><00:18:25.280><c> the</c><00:18:25.679><c> easy</c><00:18:26.840><c> part</c>

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i wrote the easy part
 

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i wrote the easy part
which<00:18:28.799><c> were</c><00:18:29.039><c> the</c><00:18:29.200><c> legal</c><00:18:29.600><c> move</c><00:18:29.919><c> routines</c><00:18:30.720><c> and</c>

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which were the legal move routines and
 

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which were the legal move routines and
so<00:18:31.200><c> forth</c>

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so forth
 

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so forth
and<00:18:33.919><c> then</c><00:18:36.000><c> i</c><00:18:36.240><c> was</c><00:18:36.559><c> stuck</c>

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and then i was stuck
 

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and then i was stuck
on<00:18:37.360><c> the</c><00:18:37.520><c> main</c><00:18:38.000><c> strategy</c>

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and<00:18:41.280><c> dithered</c><00:18:41.760><c> about</c><00:18:42.080><c> that</c><00:18:43.840><c> but</c>

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and dithered about that but
 

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and dithered about that but
i<00:18:47.679><c> turned</c><00:18:48.000><c> the</c><00:18:48.240><c> program</c><00:18:48.880><c> over</c><00:18:49.280><c> to</c>

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i turned the program over to
 

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i turned the program over to
some<00:18:51.120><c> mit</c><00:18:51.840><c> students</c>

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undergraduates<00:18:57.120><c> who</c>

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undergraduates who
 

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undergraduates who
completed<00:18:58.160><c> it</c><00:19:00.000><c> and</c>

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they<00:19:04.799><c> first</c><00:19:05.200><c> completed</c><00:19:05.840><c> it</c>

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they first completed it
 

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they first completed it
for<00:19:08.080><c> the</c><00:19:08.240><c> ibm</c><00:19:08.840><c> 704</c>

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and<00:19:12.240><c> then</c><00:19:12.960><c> redid</c><00:19:13.440><c> it</c><00:19:13.679><c> for</c><00:19:13.919><c> the</c>

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deck<00:19:16.640><c> pdp-6</c>

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and<00:19:22.559><c> i</c><00:19:22.640><c> think</c><00:19:22.880><c> they</c><00:19:23.120><c> called</c><00:19:23.440><c> it</c><00:19:23.840><c> in</c><00:19:24.000><c> their</c>

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and i think they called it in their
 

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and i think they called it in their
version

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version
 

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version
mac<00:19:25.200><c> hack</c><00:19:25.600><c> 6</c>

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but<00:19:28.640><c> i</c><00:19:28.799><c> noticed</c><00:19:29.280><c> that</c><00:19:29.520><c> it</c><00:19:29.679><c> still</c><00:19:30.080><c> had</c>

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but i noticed that it still had
 

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but i noticed that it still had
even<00:19:32.160><c> in</c><00:19:32.240><c> the</c><00:19:32.480><c> pdp6</c><00:19:33.360><c> version</c><00:19:33.840><c> a</c><00:19:33.919><c> lot</c><00:19:34.080><c> of</c><00:19:34.320><c> my</c>

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even in the pdp6 version a lot of my
 

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even in the pdp6 version a lot of my
symbols<00:19:35.120><c> in</c><00:19:36.840><c> them</c>

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and<00:19:40.240><c> why</c><00:19:40.400><c> did</c><00:19:40.559><c> you</c><00:19:40.799><c> choose</c><00:19:41.039><c> to</c><00:19:41.120><c> do</c><00:19:41.360><c> a</c><00:19:41.679><c> chess</c>

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and why did you choose to do a chess
 

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and why did you choose to do a chess
program<00:19:42.640><c> and</c><00:19:42.880><c> a</c><00:19:43.039><c> lot</c><00:19:43.200><c> of</c><00:19:43.280><c> others</c><00:19:43.600><c> were</c><00:19:43.760><c> talking</c>

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program and a lot of others were talking
 

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program and a lot of others were talking
about<00:19:44.240><c> chess</c>

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about chess
 

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about chess
what<00:19:47.280><c> where</c><00:19:47.520><c> others</c><00:19:47.840><c> were</c><00:19:48.080><c> talking</c><00:19:48.400><c> about</c>

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what where others were talking about
 

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what where others were talking about
mathematics<00:19:49.440><c> in</c><00:19:49.600><c> chess</c><00:19:50.840><c> but</c>

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mathematics in chess but
 

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mathematics in chess but
no<00:19:53.200><c> it</c><00:19:53.360><c> was</c><00:19:53.840><c> um</c>

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actually<00:19:58.400><c> about</c><00:19:58.720><c> the</c><00:19:58.960><c> second</c><00:19:59.600><c> program</c>

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actually about the second program
 

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actually about the second program
that<00:20:01.600><c> played</c><00:20:01.919><c> a</c><00:20:02.000><c> full</c><00:20:02.400><c> game</c>

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that played a full game
 

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that played a full game
uh<00:20:04.720><c> the</c><00:20:04.880><c> first</c><00:20:05.280><c> one</c><00:20:05.520><c> being</c><00:20:06.720><c> well</c><00:20:06.960><c> the</c><00:20:07.120><c> first</c>

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uh the first one being well the first
 

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uh the first one being well the first
the<00:20:07.840><c> second</c><00:20:08.159><c> american</c><00:20:08.799><c> program</c><00:20:10.000><c> play</c><00:20:10.240><c> a</c><00:20:10.400><c> full</c>

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the second american program play a full
 

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the second american program play a full
game

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game
 

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game
uh

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i<00:20:16.640><c> don't</c><00:20:16.880><c> know</c><00:20:17.120><c> when</c><00:20:17.440><c> the</c><00:20:17.600><c> russian</c><00:20:18.559><c> program</c>

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i don't know when the russian program
 

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i don't know when the russian program
came<00:20:19.440><c> along</c><00:20:19.919><c> but</c><00:20:20.080><c> it</c><00:20:20.240><c> might</c><00:20:20.480><c> have</c><00:20:20.559><c> been</c><00:20:20.720><c> a</c>

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came along but it might have been a
 

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came along but it might have been a
little<00:20:21.039><c> earlier</c>

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touring<00:20:27.039><c> had</c><00:20:27.280><c> all</c><00:20:27.440><c> the</c><00:20:27.679><c> ideas</c>

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touring had all the ideas
 

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touring had all the ideas
even<00:20:29.200><c> earlier</c><00:20:31.120><c> but</c>

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even earlier but
 

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even earlier but
but<00:20:32.840><c> never</c><00:20:33.919><c> had</c>

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but never had
 

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but never had
sufficient<00:20:37.679><c> computer</c><00:20:38.320><c> access</c>

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sufficient computer access
 

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sufficient computer access
even<00:20:40.960><c> on</c><00:20:41.520><c> computers</c><00:20:43.039><c> of</c><00:20:43.280><c> which</c>

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even on computers of which
 

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even on computers of which
he<00:20:44.480><c> was</c><00:20:44.799><c> the</c><00:20:44.960><c> main</c><00:20:45.520><c> person</c><00:20:46.080><c> who</c><00:20:46.840><c> designed</c>

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now<00:20:56.880><c> i</c><00:20:57.280><c> had</c><00:20:57.520><c> a</c><00:20:57.679><c> new</c><00:20:57.919><c> idea</c>

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now i had a new idea
 

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now i had a new idea
or<00:21:00.480><c> at</c><00:21:00.559><c> least</c><00:21:00.880><c> it</c><00:21:01.039><c> was</c><00:21:01.280><c> new</c>

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uh<00:21:04.799><c> in</c><00:21:04.960><c> the</c><00:21:05.120><c> west</c><00:21:05.679><c> the</c><00:21:05.840><c> russians</c><00:21:06.400><c> also</c>

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uh in the west the russians also
 

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uh in the west the russians also
invented<00:21:07.360><c> it</c><00:21:07.640><c> independently</c>

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invented it independently
 

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invented it independently
although<00:21:10.080><c> i</c><00:21:10.159><c> was</c><00:21:10.400><c> first</c><00:21:10.960><c> at</c><00:21:11.440><c> first</c>

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although i was first at first
 

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although i was first at first
at<00:21:12.960><c> least</c><00:21:13.200><c> their</c><00:21:13.440><c> paper</c><00:21:13.919><c> on</c><00:21:14.080><c> it</c><00:21:14.159><c> was</c><00:21:14.840><c> 1963.</c><00:21:15.919><c> and</c>

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at least their paper on it was 1963. and
 

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at least their paper on it was 1963. and
i<00:21:16.400><c> was</c><00:21:17.440><c> haranguing</c><00:21:18.240><c> people</c><00:21:18.559><c> on</c><00:21:18.799><c> it</c><00:21:18.960><c> and</c>

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probably<00:21:21.840><c> even</c><00:21:22.159><c> in</c><00:21:22.520><c> 1956</c>

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that<00:21:26.799><c> was</c><00:21:26.960><c> the</c><00:21:27.200><c> alpha</c><00:21:27.600><c> beta</c>

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that was the alpha beta
 

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that was the alpha beta
heuristic

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but<00:21:36.320><c> my</c><00:21:36.559><c> alpha</c><00:21:36.960><c> beta</c><00:21:37.280><c> heuristic</c><00:21:38.080><c> was</c>

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but my alpha beta heuristic was
 

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but my alpha beta heuristic was
complicated<00:21:40.400><c> by</c><00:21:42.000><c> thinking</c><00:21:42.480><c> of</c>

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complicated by thinking of
 

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complicated by thinking of
optimistic<00:21:43.520><c> and</c><00:21:43.679><c> pessimistic</c><00:21:44.520><c> evaluations</c>

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optimistic and pessimistic evaluations
 

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optimistic and pessimistic evaluations
so<00:21:47.440><c> the</c><00:21:47.679><c> fact</c><00:21:48.000><c> is</c><00:21:48.400><c> if</c><00:21:48.559><c> you</c><00:21:49.520><c> gave</c><00:21:49.840><c> up</c><00:21:50.000><c> that</c>

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so the fact is if you gave up that
 

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so the fact is if you gave up that
notion

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notion
 

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notion
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and just took a simple evaluation the
 

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and just took a simple evaluation the
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fact that it gave the same result as
 

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fact that it gave the same result as
minimax

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minimax
 

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minimax
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mike<00:22:04.000><c> levin</c><00:22:05.200><c> and</c><00:22:06.559><c> dan</c>

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mike levin and dan
 

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mike levin and dan
edwards<00:22:07.440><c> who</c><00:22:07.679><c> actually</c><00:22:08.080><c> wrote</c><00:22:08.320><c> a</c><00:22:08.400><c> paper</c><00:22:08.799><c> on</c>

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edwards who actually wrote a paper on
 

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edwards who actually wrote a paper on
that<00:22:09.360><c> fact</c>

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the<00:22:19.679><c> person</c><00:22:20.240><c> whoever</c>

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the person whoever
 

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the person whoever
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who disentangled who did what
 

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who disentangled who did what
is<00:22:24.880><c> don</c><00:22:25.200><c> knuth</c><00:22:25.679><c> who</c><00:22:25.840><c> wrote</c><00:22:26.080><c> a</c><00:22:26.559><c> paper</c><00:22:27.039><c> for</c>

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is don knuth who wrote a paper for
 

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is don knuth who wrote a paper for
artificial<00:22:28.000><c> intelligence</c>

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artificial intelligence
 

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artificial intelligence
in<00:22:30.480><c> which</c><00:22:30.880><c> he</c>

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interviewed<00:22:35.520><c> people</c>

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interviewed people
 

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interviewed people
but<00:22:38.840><c> um</c><00:22:40.640><c> i</c><00:22:40.799><c> was</c><00:22:41.039><c> the</c><00:22:41.200><c> first</c>

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person outside of you know i don't think
 

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person outside of you know i don't think
i<00:22:46.480><c> was</c><00:22:46.640><c> the</c><00:22:46.720><c> first</c><00:22:47.039><c> person</c>

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to<00:22:51.360><c> try</c><00:22:51.600><c> to</c><00:22:51.840><c> identify</c><00:22:52.400><c> that</c><00:22:52.640><c> was</c><00:22:52.880><c> a</c><00:22:52.960><c> kind</c><00:22:53.120><c> of</c>

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to try to identify that was a kind of
 

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to try to identify that was a kind of
separate<00:22:53.760><c> thing</c>

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arthur<00:22:56.880><c> samuel</c><00:22:57.440><c> had</c><00:22:57.760><c> something</c><00:22:59.200><c> like</c><00:22:59.520><c> it</c>

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arthur samuel had something like it
 

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arthur samuel had something like it
in<00:23:00.159><c> his</c><00:23:00.480><c> checkered</c><00:23:00.960><c> program</c>

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in his checkered program
 

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in his checkered program
but<00:23:04.640><c> he</c><00:23:04.880><c> never</c>

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but he never
 

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but he never
sort<00:23:06.799><c> of</c><00:23:07.120><c> picked</c><00:23:07.440><c> it</c><00:23:07.600><c> out</c><00:23:07.919><c> as</c><00:23:08.240><c> a</c><00:23:09.200><c> separate</c>

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sort of picked it out as a separate
 

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sort of picked it out as a separate
intellectual<00:23:11.280><c> object</c>

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and<00:23:16.320><c> um</c><00:23:17.600><c> when</c><00:23:17.760><c> did</c><00:23:17.919><c> you</c><00:23:18.080><c> come</c><00:23:18.240><c> to</c><00:23:18.400><c> understand</c>

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and um when did you come to understand
 

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and um when did you come to understand
that<00:23:18.880><c> it</c><00:23:18.960><c> was</c><00:23:19.120><c> really</c><00:23:19.360><c> kind</c><00:23:19.520><c> of</c><00:23:19.679><c> a</c><00:23:19.840><c> movement</c>

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that it was really kind of a movement
 

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that it was really kind of a movement
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of ai but it would be really a field of
 

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of ai but it would be really a field of
its<00:23:24.159><c> own</c>

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well

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uh<00:23:45.760><c> okay</c><00:23:46.240><c> in</c><00:23:46.400><c> one</c><00:23:46.640><c> sense</c><00:23:47.039><c> you</c><00:23:47.120><c> can</c><00:23:47.440><c> say</c>

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uh okay in one sense you can say
 

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uh okay in one sense you can say
on<00:23:49.200><c> one</c><00:23:49.440><c> particular</c><00:23:50.159><c> date</c><00:23:50.720><c> which</c><00:23:50.960><c> was</c><00:23:51.200><c> august</c>

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on one particular date which was august
 

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on one particular date which was august
31<00:23:52.520><c> 1955.</c>

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31 1955.
 

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31 1955.
uh

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now<00:23:59.200><c> maybe</c><00:23:59.520><c> earlier</c><00:24:00.720><c> maybe</c><00:24:02.840><c> 1952</c>

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i<00:24:06.480><c> wrote</c><00:24:06.720><c> these</c><00:24:07.120><c> i</c><00:24:07.279><c> called</c><00:24:07.679><c> this</c><00:24:08.000><c> call</c><00:24:08.240><c> for</c>

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i wrote these i called this call for
 

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i wrote these i called this call for
these<00:24:08.640><c> papers</c><00:24:09.120><c> on</c><00:24:09.360><c> automata</c><00:24:10.000><c> studies</c>

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these papers on automata studies
 

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these papers on automata studies
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and when the papers came in i was
 

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and when the papers came in i was
disappointed

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disappointed
 

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disappointed
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too many of them were about automata
 

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too many of them were about automata
and<00:24:22.159><c> i</c><00:24:22.400><c> remember</c><00:24:22.720><c> having</c><00:24:23.039><c> a</c><00:24:23.200><c> discussion</c><00:24:23.760><c> with</c>

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and i remember having a discussion with
 

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and i remember having a discussion with
claude<00:24:24.480><c> shannon</c>

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claude shannon
 

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claude shannon
where<00:24:26.480><c> i</c><00:24:26.720><c> was</c><00:24:27.039><c> interested</c><00:24:30.840><c> in</c>

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where i was interested in
 

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where i was interested in
uh

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machine<00:24:37.039><c> intelligence</c>

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uh<00:24:42.400><c> and</c><00:24:42.559><c> he</c><00:24:42.799><c> thought</c><00:24:43.039><c> any</c><00:24:43.440><c> such</c><00:24:43.760><c> title</c><00:24:44.159><c> was</c>

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uh and he thought any such title was
 

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uh and he thought any such title was
much<00:24:44.640><c> too</c><00:24:44.880><c> flashy</c>

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much too flashy
 

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much too flashy
uh<00:24:48.159><c> and</c><00:24:48.320><c> so</c><00:24:48.559><c> we</c><00:24:48.799><c> picked</c><00:24:49.039><c> this</c><00:24:49.360><c> automatic</c>

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uh and so we picked this automatic
 

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uh and so we picked this automatic
theory<00:24:50.240><c> of</c><00:24:50.400><c> automata</c>

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theory of automata
 

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theory of automata
or<00:24:51.279><c> something</c><00:24:51.679><c> like</c><00:24:51.919><c> that</c><00:24:52.960><c> as</c><00:24:53.279><c> being</c><00:24:53.600><c> the</c>

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or something like that as being the
 

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or something like that as being the
title

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book<00:25:05.440><c> was</c><00:25:05.840><c> made</c><00:25:06.240><c> may</c><00:25:06.400><c> this</c><00:25:07.200><c> suggestion</c><00:25:07.760><c> was</c>

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book was made may this suggestion was
 

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book was made may this suggestion was
made<00:25:08.240><c> to</c><00:25:08.480><c> me</c>

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made to me
 

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made to me
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by a princeton graduate student by the
 

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by a princeton graduate student by the
name<00:25:12.880><c> of</c><00:25:13.120><c> jerry</c><00:25:13.520><c> reynolds</c>

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name of jerry reynolds
 

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name of jerry reynolds
which<00:25:15.760><c> is</c><00:25:16.240><c> just</c><00:25:16.559><c> a</c><00:25:16.720><c> purely</c>

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which is just a purely
 

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which is just a purely
uh<00:25:18.880><c> oral</c><00:25:19.279><c> dis</c><00:25:20.240><c> suggestion</c><00:25:20.960><c> made</c><00:25:21.200><c> in</c>

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conversation

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but<00:25:31.520><c> anyway</c><00:25:32.400><c> um</c>

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the august 31 was when i
 

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the august 31 was when i
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wrote the proposal for the dartmouth
 

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wrote the proposal for the dartmouth
summer<00:25:41.200><c> study</c>

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summer study
 

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summer study
i<00:25:42.640><c> got</c><00:25:42.880><c> three</c><00:25:43.200><c> other</c><00:25:43.440><c> people</c><00:25:43.760><c> to</c><00:25:43.919><c> go</c><00:25:44.159><c> in</c><00:25:44.240><c> with</c>

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i got three other people to go in with
 

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i got three other people to go in with
me<00:25:44.640><c> on</c><00:25:44.880><c> it</c><00:25:45.039><c> minsky</c><00:25:45.600><c> and</c>

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me on it minsky and
 

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me on it minsky and
shannon<00:25:54.840><c> and</c>

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i'm<00:25:59.039><c> forgetting</c><00:25:59.600><c> who</c><00:25:59.840><c> else</c>

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and<00:26:04.159><c> we</c>

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proposed<00:26:07.279><c> to</c><00:26:07.440><c> the</c><00:26:07.600><c> rockefeller</c><00:26:08.840><c> foundation</c>

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proposed to the rockefeller foundation
 

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proposed to the rockefeller foundation
for<00:26:11.679><c> a</c><00:26:12.480><c> summer</c><00:26:12.880><c> study</c>

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where<00:26:17.919><c> some</c><00:26:18.159><c> number</c><00:26:18.480><c> of</c><00:26:18.720><c> people</c><00:26:19.120><c> like</c><00:26:19.440><c> 10</c>

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where some number of people like 10
 

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where some number of people like 10
would<00:26:21.120><c> devote</c><00:26:21.520><c> the</c><00:26:21.760><c> entire</c><00:26:23.440><c> summer</c>

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would devote the entire summer
 

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would devote the entire summer
to<00:26:25.440><c> thinking</c><00:26:25.760><c> about</c><00:26:26.080><c> artificial</c>

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to thinking about artificial
 

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to thinking about artificial
intelligence

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and<00:26:32.080><c> i</c><00:26:32.480><c> introduce</c>

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and i introduce
 

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and i introduce
the<00:26:33.520><c> term</c><00:26:34.000><c> artificial</c><00:26:36.840><c> intelligence</c>

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the term artificial intelligence
 

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the term artificial intelligence
on<00:26:39.520><c> that</c><00:26:39.919><c> date</c><00:26:41.520><c> when</c><00:26:41.840><c> i</c>

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on that date when i
 

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on that date when i
wrote<00:26:43.200><c> the</c><00:26:43.440><c> proposal</c><00:26:45.279><c> i</c><00:26:45.520><c> had</c><00:26:45.679><c> to</c><00:26:45.840><c> think</c><00:26:46.080><c> of</c><00:26:46.240><c> a</c>

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wrote the proposal i had to think of a
 

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wrote the proposal i had to think of a
name<00:26:46.640><c> to</c><00:26:46.880><c> call</c><00:26:47.120><c> it</c>

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name to call it
 

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name to call it
the<00:26:47.840><c> thought</c><00:26:48.000><c> of</c><00:26:48.159><c> artificial</c><00:26:48.880><c> intelligence</c>

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the thought of artificial intelligence
 

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the thought of artificial intelligence
ah

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now<00:26:56.720><c> later</c><00:26:57.200><c> donald</c><00:26:57.679><c> mickey</c>

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now later donald mickey
 

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now later donald mickey
used<00:26:59.760><c> the</c><00:26:59.919><c> term</c><00:27:00.320><c> machine</c><00:27:00.799><c> intelligence</c>

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used the term machine intelligence
 

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used the term machine intelligence
and<00:27:04.880><c> my</c><00:27:05.200><c> opinion</c><00:27:05.760><c> is</c><00:27:05.919><c> that</c><00:27:06.080><c> that</c><00:27:06.320><c> was</c><00:27:06.559><c> a</c><00:27:06.640><c> better</c>

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and my opinion is that that was a better
 

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and my opinion is that that was a better
choice

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who<00:27:14.320><c> ended</c><00:27:14.559><c> up</c><00:27:14.720><c> coming</c><00:27:15.039><c> to</c><00:27:15.200><c> the</c><00:27:15.360><c> conference</c>

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who ended up coming to the conference
 

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who ended up coming to the conference
well<00:27:17.919><c> my</c><00:27:18.240><c> idea</c><00:27:19.039><c> that</c><00:27:19.520><c> um</c>

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well my idea that um
 

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well my idea that um
a<00:27:21.279><c> bunch</c><00:27:21.520><c> of</c><00:27:22.000><c> a</c><00:27:22.159><c> bunch</c><00:27:22.480><c> of</c><00:27:22.640><c> people</c><00:27:22.960><c> would</c>

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a bunch of a bunch of people would
 

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a bunch of a bunch of people would
devote<00:27:23.520><c> the</c><00:27:23.760><c> entire</c><00:27:24.320><c> some</c>

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devote the entire some
 

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devote the entire some
summer<00:27:26.559><c> to</c><00:27:26.799><c> it</c><00:27:28.000><c> didn't</c><00:27:28.320><c> work</c>

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summer to it didn't work
 

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summer to it didn't work
the<00:27:30.320><c> first</c><00:27:30.640><c> place</c><00:27:32.159><c> the</c><00:27:32.320><c> rockefeller</c>

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the first place the rockefeller
 

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the first place the rockefeller
foundation<00:27:33.600><c> didn't</c><00:27:33.840><c> do</c><00:27:34.000><c> this</c>

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foundation didn't do this
 

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foundation didn't do this
anywhere<00:27:35.360><c> near</c><00:27:35.679><c> enough</c><00:27:36.080><c> money</c>

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but<00:27:40.159><c> the</c><00:27:41.760><c> second</c><00:27:42.240><c> place</c>

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uh

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uh
 

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uh
hardly<00:27:49.279><c> any</c><00:27:49.679><c> of</c><00:27:49.840><c> the</c><00:27:50.080><c> people</c><00:27:50.480><c> who</c><00:27:50.720><c> did</c><00:27:50.960><c> come</c>

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hardly any of the people who did come
 

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hardly any of the people who did come
were<00:27:53.279><c> willing</c><00:27:53.679><c> to</c><00:27:53.840><c> devote</c><00:27:55.120><c> that</c><00:27:55.360><c> much</c><00:27:55.760><c> time</c>

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were willing to devote that much time
 

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were willing to devote that much time
it<00:27:57.600><c> was</c><00:27:57.919><c> more</c><00:27:58.159><c> than</c><00:27:58.320><c> like</c><00:27:58.720><c> they</c><00:27:58.880><c> were</c><00:27:59.200><c> willing</c>

00:27:59.510 --> 00:27:59.520 align:start position:0%
it was more than like they were willing
 

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it was more than like they were willing
to<00:27:59.760><c> come</c><00:28:00.080><c> for</c><00:28:00.320><c> a</c><00:28:00.399><c> few</c><00:28:00.640><c> days</c>

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to come for a few days
 

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to come for a few days
and<00:28:01.279><c> tell</c><00:28:01.520><c> us</c><00:28:01.679><c> what</c><00:28:01.840><c> they</c><00:28:02.000><c> were</c><00:28:02.240><c> doing</c><00:28:03.840><c> and</c>

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and tell us what they were doing and
 

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and tell us what they were doing and
then<00:28:04.159><c> they</c><00:28:04.320><c> would</c><00:28:04.480><c> go</c><00:28:04.720><c> off</c><00:28:04.960><c> and</c><00:28:05.120><c> do</c><00:28:05.360><c> it</c>

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then they would go off and do it
 

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then they would go off and do it
now<00:28:07.520><c> the</c><00:28:07.679><c> only</c><00:28:08.080><c> people</c>

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who<00:28:10.720><c> were</c><00:28:13.120><c> seriously</c><00:28:14.159><c> devoted</c><00:28:14.799><c> to</c><00:28:15.039><c> artificial</c>

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who were seriously devoted to artificial
 

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who were seriously devoted to artificial
intelligence<00:28:16.799><c> at</c><00:28:16.960><c> the</c><00:28:17.120><c> time</c>

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intelligence at the time
 

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intelligence at the time
where<00:28:20.720><c> i</c><00:28:20.960><c> saw</c><00:28:21.679><c> minsky</c>

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newland<00:28:24.960><c> simon</c>

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and<00:28:29.520><c> i'd</c><00:28:29.760><c> say</c><00:28:30.320><c> ray</c><00:28:30.559><c> solomon</c>

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now

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now
 

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now
of<00:28:45.279><c> these</c><00:28:47.039><c> the</c><00:28:47.200><c> furthest</c><00:28:47.840><c> events</c><00:28:48.399><c> were</c><00:28:48.559><c> under</c>

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of these the furthest events were under
 

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of these the furthest events were under
one<00:28:49.200><c> sign</c>

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and

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i<00:29:05.600><c> got</c><00:29:05.840><c> the</c><00:29:06.080><c> idea</c><00:29:06.399><c> of</c><00:29:06.480><c> this</c><00:29:06.799><c> processing</c><00:29:07.600><c> from</c>

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but<00:29:11.039><c> they</c><00:29:11.600><c> had</c>

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they<00:29:14.640><c> used</c><00:29:14.960><c> an</c><00:29:15.120><c> absolutely</c><00:29:15.760><c> terrible</c>

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they used an absolutely terrible
 

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they used an absolutely terrible
language

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language
 

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language
over<00:29:18.720><c> the</c><00:29:19.039><c> ipl</c>

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which

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they<00:29:26.240><c> stuck</c><00:29:26.559><c> with</c><00:29:26.799><c> for</c><00:29:27.039><c> quite</c><00:29:27.279><c> a</c><00:29:27.360><c> long</c><00:29:27.760><c> time</c>

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they stuck with for quite a long time
 

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they stuck with for quite a long time
finally<00:29:31.919><c> the</c><00:29:32.159><c> cmu</c><00:29:32.880><c> people</c>

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finally the cmu people
 

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finally the cmu people
switch<00:29:33.840><c> to</c><00:29:38.840><c> lisp</c>

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well<00:29:43.600><c> maybe</c><00:29:43.840><c> that's</c><00:29:44.159><c> not</c><00:29:44.399><c> quite</c><00:29:44.640><c> true</c><00:29:45.120><c> anyway</c>

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well maybe that's not quite true anyway
 

00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:54.549 align:start position:0%
well maybe that's not quite true anyway
ipo<00:29:46.880><c> was</c><00:29:52.840><c> abandoned</c>

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ipo was abandoned
 

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ipo was abandoned
and<00:29:55.600><c> lisp</c><00:29:56.799><c> took</c><00:29:57.039><c> the</c><00:29:57.279><c> idea</c><00:29:57.679><c> of</c>

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and lisp took the idea of
 

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and lisp took the idea of
list<00:29:58.399><c> processing</c><00:29:59.200><c> from</c><00:29:59.520><c> them</c><00:30:00.960><c> and</c><00:30:01.200><c> then</c>

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list processing from them and then
 

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list processing from them and then
for<00:30:02.559><c> the</c><00:30:02.799><c> form</c><00:30:03.039><c> of</c><00:30:03.200><c> the</c><00:30:03.279><c> language</c>

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took<00:30:06.840><c> fortran</c><00:30:07.840><c> as</c><00:30:08.159><c> its</c>

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took fortran as its
 

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took fortran as its
model<00:30:11.200><c> but</c><00:30:11.440><c> then</c><00:30:11.679><c> it</c><00:30:11.919><c> turned</c><00:30:12.240><c> out</c>

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model but then it turned out
 

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model but then it turned out
that<00:30:13.200><c> um</c>

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to<00:30:18.559><c> write</c><00:30:19.039><c> a</c><00:30:19.440><c> program</c><00:30:20.840><c> for</c>

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to write a program for
 

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to write a program for
symbolic<00:30:22.840><c> differentiation</c>

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would<00:30:27.760><c> go</c><00:30:28.080><c> well</c>

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if<00:30:31.440><c> the</c>

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algorithm<00:30:35.279><c> was</c><00:30:35.520><c> allowed</c><00:30:35.840><c> to</c><00:30:36.000><c> be</c><00:30:36.480><c> it's</c><00:30:36.640><c> not</c><00:30:36.880><c> a</c>

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algorithm was allowed to be it's not a
 

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algorithm was allowed to be it's not a
function

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function
 

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function
of<00:30:38.320><c> differentiation</c><00:30:39.279><c> function</c><00:30:40.159><c> first</c><00:30:40.399><c> of</c><00:30:40.559><c> all</c>

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of differentiation function first of all
 

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of differentiation function first of all
if<00:30:41.200><c> differentiation</c><00:30:42.000><c> was</c><00:30:42.240><c> considered</c><00:30:42.720><c> to</c><00:30:42.880><c> be</c>

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if differentiation was considered to be
 

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if differentiation was considered to be
a<00:30:43.200><c> function</c>

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a function
 

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a function
uh<00:30:45.360><c> applied</c><00:30:45.840><c> to</c><00:30:46.000><c> the</c><00:30:46.159><c> symbolic</c><00:30:46.720><c> expressions</c>

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uh applied to the symbolic expressions
 

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uh applied to the symbolic expressions
and<00:30:48.320><c> secondly</c><00:30:48.880><c> if</c><00:30:49.039><c> that</c><00:30:49.360><c> function</c><00:30:49.840><c> was</c>

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and secondly if that function was
 

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and secondly if that function was
allowed<00:30:51.279><c> to</c><00:30:51.520><c> be</c>

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allowed to be
 

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allowed to be
recursive<00:30:53.840><c> in</c><00:30:53.919><c> the</c><00:30:54.159><c> sense</c><00:30:54.480><c> of</c><00:30:55.360><c> in</c><00:30:55.520><c> the</c>

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recursive in the sense of in the
 

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recursive in the sense of in the
computer<00:30:56.159><c> science</c><00:30:56.720><c> sense</c>

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computer science sense
 

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computer science sense
of<00:30:57.519><c> calling</c><00:30:58.000><c> itself</c><00:31:00.000><c> and</c>

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of calling itself and
 

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of calling itself and
uh<00:31:02.840><c> so</c>

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i<00:31:06.399><c> i</c><00:31:07.120><c> think</c><00:31:07.519><c> that</c><00:31:08.720><c> lisp</c>

00:31:09.909 --> 00:31:09.919 align:start position:0%
i i think that lisp
 

00:31:09.919 --> 00:31:13.669 align:start position:0%
i i think that lisp
which<00:31:10.159><c> was</c><00:31:10.399><c> introduced</c><00:31:12.080><c> or</c><00:31:12.399><c> i</c><00:31:12.640><c> started</c><00:31:13.120><c> on</c><00:31:13.279><c> it</c>

00:31:13.669 --> 00:31:13.679 align:start position:0%
which was introduced or i started on it
 

00:31:13.679 --> 00:31:18.310 align:start position:0%
which was introduced or i started on it
in<00:31:13.919><c> the</c><00:31:15.440><c> fall</c><00:31:15.760><c> of</c><00:31:16.840><c> 1958</c>

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in the fall of 1958
 

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in the fall of 1958
ah<00:31:20.000><c> it</c><00:31:20.320><c> may</c><00:31:20.480><c> be</c><00:31:20.640><c> the</c><00:31:20.799><c> first</c>

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ah it may be the first
 

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ah it may be the first
language<00:31:24.320><c> no</c><00:31:24.559><c> that's</c><00:31:24.880><c> not</c><00:31:25.039><c> quite</c><00:31:25.360><c> true</c>

00:31:25.750 --> 00:31:25.760 align:start position:0%
language no that's not quite true
 

00:31:25.760 --> 00:31:29.430 align:start position:0%
language no that's not quite true
i<00:31:25.919><c> think</c><00:31:26.240><c> ibl</c><00:31:27.600><c> the</c><00:31:27.760><c> functions</c><00:31:28.399><c> could</c>

00:31:29.430 --> 00:31:29.440 align:start position:0%
i think ibl the functions could
 

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i think ibl the functions could
call<00:31:29.679><c> themselves</c><00:31:31.360><c> but</c><00:31:31.600><c> not</c><00:31:31.919><c> through</c>

00:31:32.470 --> 00:31:32.480 align:start position:0%
call themselves but not through
 

00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:35.830 align:start position:0%
call themselves but not through
an<00:31:32.720><c> automatic</c><00:31:33.360><c> mechanism</c><00:31:35.039><c> built</c><00:31:35.360><c> into</c><00:31:35.600><c> the</c>

00:31:35.830 --> 00:31:35.840 align:start position:0%
an automatic mechanism built into the
 

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an automatic mechanism built into the
structure

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structure
 

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structure
of<00:31:36.640><c> the</c><00:31:38.159><c> language</c>

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so<00:31:41.120><c> anyway</c><00:31:42.720><c> that</c><00:31:42.960><c> was</c>

00:31:44.630 --> 00:31:44.640 align:start position:0%
so anyway that was
 

00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:48.389 align:start position:0%
so anyway that was
started<00:31:45.120><c> programming</c><00:31:45.679><c> lisp</c>

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but<00:31:48.559><c> the</c><00:31:48.720><c> curious</c><00:31:49.279><c> thing</c><00:31:49.600><c> is</c>

00:31:51.590 --> 00:31:51.600 align:start position:0%
but the curious thing is
 

00:31:51.600 --> 00:31:56.549 align:start position:0%
but the curious thing is
that

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i

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wrote<00:31:59.840><c> a</c><00:32:00.000><c> report</c>

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uh<00:32:03.600><c> in</c><00:32:03.919><c> the</c><00:32:05.519><c> beginning</c><00:32:06.000><c> of</c><00:32:06.080><c> 59</c>

00:32:08.630 --> 00:32:08.640 align:start position:0%
uh in the beginning of 59
 

00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:12.149 align:start position:0%
uh in the beginning of 59
in<00:32:08.720><c> which</c><00:32:08.960><c> i</c><00:32:09.120><c> wanted</c><00:32:09.440><c> to</c><00:32:09.760><c> show</c><00:32:10.320><c> that</c><00:32:10.720><c> this</c>

00:32:12.149 --> 00:32:12.159 align:start position:0%
in which i wanted to show that this
 

00:32:12.159 --> 00:32:15.269 align:start position:0%
in which i wanted to show that this
was<00:32:12.840><c> universal</c>

00:32:15.269 --> 00:32:15.279 align:start position:0%
was universal
 

00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:18.549 align:start position:0%
was universal
as<00:32:15.519><c> a</c><00:32:15.600><c> main</c><00:32:15.919><c> computational</c><00:32:16.799><c> means</c><00:32:18.000><c> and</c><00:32:18.240><c> so</c><00:32:18.399><c> i</c>

00:32:18.549 --> 00:32:18.559 align:start position:0%
as a main computational means and so i
 

00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:21.830 align:start position:0%
as a main computational means and so i
wrote<00:32:18.799><c> a</c><00:32:18.880><c> universal</c><00:32:19.600><c> function</c>

00:32:21.830 --> 00:32:21.840 align:start position:0%
wrote a universal function
 

00:32:21.840 --> 00:32:25.509 align:start position:0%
wrote a universal function
and<00:32:22.480><c> i</c><00:32:22.799><c> wanted</c><00:32:23.120><c> to</c><00:32:23.360><c> show</c><00:32:23.679><c> that</c><00:32:24.720><c> compared</c><00:32:25.200><c> to</c><00:32:25.360><c> a</c>

00:32:25.509 --> 00:32:25.519 align:start position:0%
and i wanted to show that compared to a
 

00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:28.070 align:start position:0%
and i wanted to show that compared to a
universal<00:32:26.080><c> turing</c><00:32:26.840><c> machine</c>

00:32:28.070 --> 00:32:28.080 align:start position:0%
universal turing machine
 

00:32:28.080 --> 00:32:31.350 align:start position:0%
universal turing machine
the<00:32:30.720><c> which</c><00:32:31.039><c> took</c>

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the which took
 

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the which took
touring<00:32:32.720><c> about</c><00:32:33.120><c> six</c><00:32:33.440><c> pages</c><00:32:34.000><c> to</c><00:32:34.159><c> describe</c>

00:32:35.909 --> 00:32:35.919 align:start position:0%
touring about six pages to describe
 

00:32:35.919 --> 00:32:39.669 align:start position:0%
touring about six pages to describe
in<00:32:36.080><c> his</c><00:32:36.279><c> 1936</c><00:32:37.360><c> paper</c><00:32:38.880><c> was</c><00:32:39.200><c> only</c>

00:32:39.669 --> 00:32:39.679 align:start position:0%
in his 1936 paper was only
 

00:32:39.679 --> 00:32:43.430 align:start position:0%
in his 1936 paper was only
a<00:32:39.760><c> few</c><00:32:40.840><c> lines</c><00:32:42.000><c> and</c><00:32:42.399><c> this</c>

00:32:43.430 --> 00:32:43.440 align:start position:0%
a few lines and this
 

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a few lines and this
i<00:32:43.679><c> should</c><00:32:43.919><c> do</c><00:32:44.080><c> that</c>

00:32:46.470 --> 00:32:46.480 align:start position:0%
 
 

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uh<00:32:48.159><c> well</c><00:32:48.480><c> the</c><00:32:48.559><c> thing</c><00:32:48.720><c> that</c><00:32:48.880><c> i</c><00:32:49.039><c> wrote</c><00:32:49.279><c> down</c><00:32:49.519><c> had</c>

00:32:49.750 --> 00:32:49.760 align:start position:0%
uh well the thing that i wrote down had
 

00:32:49.760 --> 00:32:51.909 align:start position:0%
uh well the thing that i wrote down had
a<00:32:49.840><c> bug</c><00:32:50.080><c> in</c><00:32:50.240><c> it</c>

00:32:51.909 --> 00:32:51.919 align:start position:0%
a bug in it
 

00:32:51.919 --> 00:32:55.269 align:start position:0%
a bug in it
but<00:32:52.159><c> in</c><00:32:52.320><c> any</c><00:32:52.559><c> case</c>

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one<00:32:55.519><c> of</c><00:32:55.760><c> the</c><00:32:57.360><c> programmers</c><00:32:58.080><c> steve</c><00:32:58.399><c> russell</c>

00:33:00.389 --> 00:33:00.399 align:start position:0%
one of the programmers steve russell
 

00:33:00.399 --> 00:33:04.950 align:start position:0%
one of the programmers steve russell
saw<00:33:00.720><c> that</c><00:33:01.360><c> my</c><00:33:02.720><c> report</c>

00:33:04.950 --> 00:33:04.960 align:start position:0%
saw that my report
 

00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:08.630 align:start position:0%
saw that my report
and<00:33:06.159><c> programmed</c><00:33:06.799><c> you</c><00:33:07.039><c> that</c>

00:33:08.630 --> 00:33:08.640 align:start position:0%
and programmed you that
 

00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:10.950 align:start position:0%
and programmed you that
in<00:33:08.799><c> the</c><00:33:08.960><c> sense</c><00:33:09.279><c> of</c><00:33:09.760><c> what</c><00:33:09.919><c> we</c><00:33:10.080><c> were</c><00:33:10.320><c> doing</c><00:33:10.640><c> then</c>

00:33:10.950 --> 00:33:10.960 align:start position:0%
in the sense of what we were doing then
 

00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:11.990 align:start position:0%
in the sense of what we were doing then
with<00:33:11.200><c> lisp</c>

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with lisp
 

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with lisp
is<00:33:12.240><c> we</c><00:33:12.399><c> were</c><00:33:12.559><c> hoping</c><00:33:12.799><c> to</c><00:33:12.960><c> have</c><00:33:13.120><c> a</c><00:33:13.200><c> compiler</c><00:33:13.919><c> but</c>

00:33:14.149 --> 00:33:14.159 align:start position:0%
is we were hoping to have a compiler but
 

00:33:14.159 --> 00:33:16.230 align:start position:0%
is we were hoping to have a compiler but
we<00:33:14.320><c> didn't</c><00:33:14.640><c> have</c><00:33:14.799><c> a</c><00:33:14.960><c> compiler</c>

00:33:16.230 --> 00:33:16.240 align:start position:0%
we didn't have a compiler
 

00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:19.509 align:start position:0%
we didn't have a compiler
so<00:33:16.480><c> we</c><00:33:16.640><c> were</c><00:33:16.799><c> doing</c><00:33:17.120><c> hand</c><00:33:17.440><c> compiling</c><00:33:19.120><c> and</c><00:33:19.360><c> he</c>

00:33:19.509 --> 00:33:19.519 align:start position:0%
so we were doing hand compiling and he
 

00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:20.870 align:start position:0%
so we were doing hand compiling and he
hand<00:33:19.840><c> compiled</c><00:33:20.320><c> eval</c>

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hand compiled eval
 

00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:23.029 align:start position:0%
hand compiled eval
and<00:33:21.039><c> said</c><00:33:21.279><c> well</c><00:33:21.519><c> we</c><00:33:21.679><c> have</c><00:33:21.919><c> an</c><00:33:22.159><c> interpreter</c><00:33:22.799><c> for</c>

00:33:23.029 --> 00:33:23.039 align:start position:0%
and said well we have an interpreter for
 

00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:25.430 align:start position:0%
and said well we have an interpreter for
this

00:33:25.430 --> 00:33:25.440 align:start position:0%
this
 

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this
and<00:33:28.000><c> after</c><00:33:28.480><c> a</c><00:33:28.640><c> little</c>

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put<00:33:34.559><c> up</c><00:33:34.720><c> a</c><00:33:34.799><c> little</c><00:33:35.120><c> resistance</c><00:33:36.000><c> and</c><00:33:36.080><c> i</c><00:33:36.559><c> had</c><00:33:36.799><c> to</c>

00:33:36.870 --> 00:33:36.880 align:start position:0%
put up a little resistance and i had to
 

00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:39.750 align:start position:0%
put up a little resistance and i had to
agree<00:33:37.279><c> that</c><00:33:37.519><c> steve</c><00:33:37.919><c> was</c><00:33:38.159><c> right</c>

00:33:39.750 --> 00:33:39.760 align:start position:0%
agree that steve was right
 

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agree that steve was right
and

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okay<00:33:46.000><c> well</c><00:33:46.240><c> enough</c><00:33:46.559><c> of</c><00:33:46.640><c> that</c>

00:33:49.590 --> 00:33:49.600 align:start position:0%
 
 

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tell<00:33:49.760><c> me</c><00:33:49.919><c> about</c><00:33:50.080><c> the</c><00:33:50.480><c> ai</c><00:33:50.880><c> lab</c><00:33:51.120><c> at</c><00:33:51.279><c> mit</c>

00:34:04.830 --> 00:34:04.840 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:34:04.840 --> 00:34:07.509 align:start position:0%
 
well

00:34:07.509 --> 00:34:07.519 align:start position:0%
well
 

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well
minsky<00:34:08.079><c> and</c><00:34:08.240><c> i</c><00:34:08.560><c> started</c><00:34:09.119><c> that</c>

00:34:11.669 --> 00:34:11.679 align:start position:0%
 
 

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now<00:34:11.919><c> here's</c><00:34:12.399><c> my</c><00:34:12.720><c> version</c><00:34:13.119><c> which</c><00:34:13.440><c> may</c><00:34:13.599><c> not</c><00:34:13.919><c> be</c>

00:34:14.149 --> 00:34:14.159 align:start position:0%
now here's my version which may not be
 

00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:20.149 align:start position:0%
now here's my version which may not be
entirely<00:34:18.839><c> correct</c>

00:34:20.149 --> 00:34:20.159 align:start position:0%
entirely correct
 

00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:22.470 align:start position:0%
entirely correct
and<00:34:20.320><c> that</c><00:34:20.560><c> is</c><00:34:20.720><c> that</c><00:34:20.960><c> i</c><00:34:21.280><c> encountered</c><00:34:21.919><c> minsky</c>

00:34:22.470 --> 00:34:22.480 align:start position:0%
and that is that i encountered minsky
 

00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:25.270 align:start position:0%
and that is that i encountered minsky
and<00:34:22.639><c> the</c><00:34:22.800><c> corridor</c>

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and the corridor
 

00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:27.669 align:start position:0%
and the corridor
said<00:34:25.599><c> we</c><00:34:25.760><c> ought</c><00:34:25.919><c> to</c><00:34:26.000><c> have</c><00:34:26.240><c> a</c><00:34:27.040><c> we</c><00:34:27.200><c> really</c><00:34:27.520><c> ought</c>

00:34:27.669 --> 00:34:27.679 align:start position:0%
said we ought to have a we really ought
 

00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:29.430 align:start position:0%
said we ought to have a we really ought
to<00:34:27.760><c> have</c><00:34:27.919><c> an</c><00:34:28.079><c> artificial</c><00:34:28.720><c> intelligence</c>

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to have an artificial intelligence
 

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to have an artificial intelligence
laboratory

00:34:31.430 --> 00:34:31.440 align:start position:0%
laboratory
 

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laboratory
and<00:34:31.599><c> he</c><00:34:31.760><c> said</c><00:34:31.919><c> that's</c><00:34:32.159><c> a</c><00:34:32.240><c> good</c><00:34:32.480><c> idea</c><00:34:32.879><c> let's</c><00:34:33.119><c> do</c>

00:34:33.349 --> 00:34:33.359 align:start position:0%
and he said that's a good idea let's do
 

00:34:33.359 --> 00:34:36.389 align:start position:0%
and he said that's a good idea let's do
that

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and<00:34:36.639><c> then</c><00:34:37.040><c> along</c><00:34:37.599><c> came</c><00:34:38.879><c> jerry</c><00:34:39.280><c> wiesner</c><00:34:39.839><c> who</c><00:34:40.079><c> is</c>

00:34:40.230 --> 00:34:40.240 align:start position:0%
and then along came jerry wiesner who is
 

00:34:40.240 --> 00:34:42.149 align:start position:0%
and then along came jerry wiesner who is
the<00:34:40.320><c> head</c><00:34:40.560><c> of</c><00:34:40.639><c> the</c><00:34:40.879><c> research</c><00:34:41.359><c> laboratory</c><00:34:41.919><c> of</c>

00:34:42.149 --> 00:34:42.159 align:start position:0%
the head of the research laboratory of
 

00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:46.069 align:start position:0%
the head of the research laboratory of
electronics

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and<00:34:46.320><c> i</c><00:34:46.560><c> said</c><00:34:46.800><c> marvin</c><00:34:47.280><c> and</c><00:34:47.440><c> i</c><00:34:47.599><c> want</c><00:34:47.760><c> to</c><00:34:47.919><c> have</c><00:34:48.079><c> an</c>

00:34:48.230 --> 00:34:48.240 align:start position:0%
and i said marvin and i want to have an
 

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and i said marvin and i want to have an
artificial<00:34:48.879><c> intelligence</c><00:34:49.520><c> laboratory</c>

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and<00:34:52.879><c> he</c><00:34:53.040><c> said</c><00:34:53.599><c> all</c><00:34:53.760><c> right</c><00:34:54.079><c> what</c><00:34:54.240><c> do</c><00:34:54.320><c> you</c><00:34:54.480><c> need</c>

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and<00:34:57.280><c> i</c><00:34:57.440><c> said</c><00:34:57.920><c> we</c><00:34:58.160><c> need</c><00:34:58.720><c> a</c><00:35:00.839><c> room</c>

00:35:02.230 --> 00:35:02.240 align:start position:0%
and i said we need a room
 

00:35:02.240 --> 00:35:05.990 align:start position:0%
and i said we need a room
and<00:35:03.119><c> the</c><00:35:03.359><c> secretary</c>

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and the secretary
 

00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:10.150 align:start position:0%
and the secretary
and<00:35:06.320><c> a</c><00:35:06.480><c> key</c><00:35:06.720><c> punch</c><00:35:07.119><c> and</c><00:35:07.280><c> two</c><00:35:07.520><c> programmers</c>

00:35:10.150 --> 00:35:10.160 align:start position:0%
and a key punch and two programmers
 

00:35:10.160 --> 00:35:14.230 align:start position:0%
and a key punch and two programmers
the<00:35:10.320><c> reason</c><00:35:10.800><c> i</c><00:35:10.880><c> said</c><00:35:13.040><c> and</c><00:35:13.280><c> how</c><00:35:13.440><c> about</c><00:35:13.839><c> six</c>

00:35:14.230 --> 00:35:14.240 align:start position:0%
the reason i said and how about six
 

00:35:14.240 --> 00:35:19.430 align:start position:0%
the reason i said and how about six
graduate<00:35:14.839><c> students</c>

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and<00:35:19.680><c> we</c><00:35:19.839><c> said</c><00:35:20.160><c> yes</c>

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and<00:35:23.119><c> that</c><00:35:23.359><c> was</c><00:35:23.599><c> it</c><00:35:24.640><c> and</c><00:35:24.800><c> the</c><00:35:24.960><c> reason</c><00:35:25.280><c> why</c><00:35:25.520><c> that</c>

00:35:25.750 --> 00:35:25.760 align:start position:0%
and that was it and the reason why that
 

00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:28.150 align:start position:0%
and that was it and the reason why that
was<00:35:26.000><c> it</c>

00:35:28.150 --> 00:35:28.160 align:start position:0%
was it
 

00:35:28.160 --> 00:35:31.349 align:start position:0%
was it
was<00:35:28.560><c> that</c><00:35:29.760><c> mit</c>

00:35:31.349 --> 00:35:31.359 align:start position:0%
was that mit
 

00:35:31.359 --> 00:35:35.349 align:start position:0%
was that mit
had<00:35:31.839><c> just</c><00:35:32.240><c> received</c><00:35:34.000><c> a</c><00:35:34.160><c> joint</c><00:35:34.640><c> services</c>

00:35:35.349 --> 00:35:35.359 align:start position:0%
had just received a joint services
 

00:35:35.359 --> 00:35:38.310 align:start position:0%
had just received a joint services
contract

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and<00:35:38.800><c> what</c><00:35:39.040><c> mit</c><00:35:39.680><c> had</c><00:35:39.839><c> done</c>

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and what mit had done
 

00:35:41.680 --> 00:35:45.030 align:start position:0%
and what mit had done
was<00:35:42.160><c> that</c><00:35:42.839><c> on</c>

00:35:45.030 --> 00:35:45.040 align:start position:0%
was that on
 

00:35:45.040 --> 00:35:49.349 align:start position:0%
was that on
it<00:35:45.200><c> had</c><00:35:45.680><c> divided</c><00:35:46.720><c> the</c><00:35:46.880><c> prize</c><00:35:47.520><c> up</c>

00:35:49.349 --> 00:35:49.359 align:start position:0%
it had divided the prize up
 

00:35:49.359 --> 00:35:53.750 align:start position:0%
it had divided the prize up
among<00:35:50.400><c> various</c><00:35:50.960><c> departments</c>

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and<00:35:53.920><c> the</c><00:35:54.079><c> mathematics</c><00:35:54.800><c> departments</c><00:35:56.839><c> share</c>

00:35:57.990 --> 00:35:58.000 align:start position:0%
and the mathematics departments share
 

00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:02.870 align:start position:0%
and the mathematics departments share
was<00:35:58.400><c> support</c><00:35:58.880><c> for</c><00:35:59.119><c> six</c><00:35:59.440><c> graduate</c><00:36:00.000><c> students</c>

00:36:02.870 --> 00:36:02.880 align:start position:0%
 
 

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but<00:36:03.599><c> um</c>

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it<00:36:11.040><c> wasn't</c><00:36:11.440><c> clear</c><00:36:11.839><c> what</c><00:36:12.160><c> this</c><00:36:12.640><c> joint</c><00:36:13.040><c> serves</c>

00:36:13.430 --> 00:36:13.440 align:start position:0%
it wasn't clear what this joint serves
 

00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:14.069 align:start position:0%
it wasn't clear what this joint serves
as<00:36:13.599><c> a</c><00:36:13.760><c> good</c>

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as a good
 

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as a good
contract<00:36:15.520><c> would</c><00:36:15.760><c> do</c><00:36:16.000><c> with</c><00:36:16.160><c> the</c><00:36:16.400><c> six</c><00:36:16.720><c> graduate</c>

00:36:17.270 --> 00:36:17.280 align:start position:0%
contract would do with the six graduate
 

00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:19.190 align:start position:0%
contract would do with the six graduate
students

00:36:19.190 --> 00:36:19.200 align:start position:0%
students
 

00:36:19.200 --> 00:36:22.390 align:start position:0%
students
so<00:36:19.599><c> when</c><00:36:19.839><c> minsky</c><00:36:20.400><c> came</c><00:36:20.640><c> along</c>

00:36:22.390 --> 00:36:22.400 align:start position:0%
so when minsky came along
 

00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:29.190 align:start position:0%
so when minsky came along
uh<00:36:23.760><c> minsky</c><00:36:24.160><c> and</c><00:36:24.320><c> i</c><00:36:24.560><c> came</c><00:36:24.839><c> along</c>

00:36:29.190 --> 00:36:29.200 align:start position:0%
 
 

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listener<00:36:30.400><c> had</c><00:36:30.560><c> a</c><00:36:30.720><c> solution</c><00:36:31.359><c> to</c><00:36:31.599><c> his</c><00:36:31.839><c> problem</c>

00:36:33.750 --> 00:36:33.760 align:start position:0%
listener had a solution to his problem
 

00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:39.349 align:start position:0%
listener had a solution to his problem
and

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turned<00:36:39.760><c> over</c><00:36:40.160><c> his</c><00:36:40.400><c> 76</c>

00:36:43.109 --> 00:36:43.119 align:start position:0%
turned over his 76
 

00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:46.470 align:start position:0%
turned over his 76
these<00:36:43.440><c> six</c><00:36:43.760><c> graduate</c><00:36:44.320><c> students</c><00:36:44.880><c> so</c><00:36:45.839><c> somehow</c>

00:36:46.470 --> 00:36:46.480 align:start position:0%
these six graduate students so somehow
 

00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:48.150 align:start position:0%
these six graduate students so somehow
the

00:36:48.150 --> 00:36:48.160 align:start position:0%
the
 

00:36:48.160 --> 00:36:52.829 align:start position:0%
the
resources<00:36:48.880><c> were</c><00:36:49.760><c> suddenly</c><00:36:50.480><c> available</c>

00:36:52.829 --> 00:36:52.839 align:start position:0%
resources were suddenly available
 

00:36:52.839 --> 00:36:57.430 align:start position:0%
resources were suddenly available
so<00:36:54.880><c> it</c><00:36:55.119><c> spoiled</c><00:36:55.760><c> me</c>

00:36:57.430 --> 00:36:57.440 align:start position:0%
so it spoiled me
 

00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:01.990 align:start position:0%
so it spoiled me
in<00:36:57.599><c> the</c><00:36:57.839><c> sense</c><00:36:58.400><c> that</c><00:37:00.160><c> i</c><00:37:00.480><c> felt</c><00:37:00.880><c> that</c>

00:37:01.990 --> 00:37:02.000 align:start position:0%
in the sense that i felt that
 

00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:04.470 align:start position:0%
in the sense that i felt that
that's<00:37:02.320><c> the</c><00:37:02.560><c> model</c><00:37:02.960><c> of</c><00:37:03.119><c> what</c><00:37:03.359><c> a</c><00:37:03.599><c> proposal</c><00:37:04.320><c> and</c>

00:37:04.470 --> 00:37:04.480 align:start position:0%
that's the model of what a proposal and
 

00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:06.310 align:start position:0%
that's the model of what a proposal and
its<00:37:04.720><c> acceptance</c>

00:37:06.310 --> 00:37:06.320 align:start position:0%
its acceptance
 

00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:08.230 align:start position:0%
its acceptance
you<00:37:06.560><c> just</c><00:37:06.800><c> meet</c><00:37:07.040><c> the</c><00:37:07.200><c> guy</c><00:37:07.440><c> in</c><00:37:07.520><c> the</c><00:37:07.680><c> corridor</c>

00:37:08.230 --> 00:37:08.240 align:start position:0%
you just meet the guy in the corridor
 

00:37:08.240 --> 00:37:09.589 align:start position:0%
you just meet the guy in the corridor
and<00:37:08.400><c> ask</c><00:37:08.720><c> him</c>

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and ask him
 

00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:12.870 align:start position:0%
and ask him
and<00:37:09.839><c> he</c><00:37:10.000><c> says</c><00:37:10.320><c> yes</c>

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it<00:37:12.960><c> says</c><00:37:13.200><c> what</c><00:37:13.440><c> else</c><00:37:13.680><c> do</c><00:37:13.760><c> you</c><00:37:13.920><c> mean</c>

00:37:16.790 --> 00:37:16.800 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:20.829 align:start position:0%
 
so<00:37:16.960><c> who</c><00:37:17.280><c> are</c><00:37:17.440><c> some</c><00:37:17.599><c> of</c><00:37:17.760><c> the</c><00:37:17.839><c> first</c><00:37:18.240><c> uh</c><00:37:18.560><c> graduate</c>

00:37:20.829 --> 00:37:20.839 align:start position:0%
so who are some of the first uh graduate
 

00:37:20.839 --> 00:37:22.069 align:start position:0%
so who are some of the first uh graduate
students

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students
 

00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:27.109 align:start position:0%
students
uh<00:37:23.839><c> there's</c><00:37:24.240><c> david</c><00:37:24.640><c> lucken</c><00:37:25.119><c> and</c><00:37:25.280><c> david</c><00:37:25.760><c> park</c>

00:37:27.109 --> 00:37:27.119 align:start position:0%
uh there's david lucken and david park
 

00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:30.310 align:start position:0%
uh there's david lucken and david park
they're<00:37:27.440><c> both</c><00:37:27.920><c> englishmen</c>

00:37:30.310 --> 00:37:30.320 align:start position:0%
they're both englishmen
 

00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:34.069 align:start position:0%
they're both englishmen
and

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they<00:37:34.240><c> wrote</c><00:37:34.720><c> theses</c><00:37:35.280><c> in</c><00:37:35.440><c> pure</c><00:37:35.760><c> mathematics</c>

00:37:37.910 --> 00:37:37.920 align:start position:0%
they wrote theses in pure mathematics
 

00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:41.270 align:start position:0%
they wrote theses in pure mathematics
but<00:37:38.079><c> they</c><00:37:38.560><c> later</c><00:37:39.040><c> switched</c>

00:37:41.270 --> 00:37:41.280 align:start position:0%
but they later switched
 

00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:44.069 align:start position:0%
but they later switched
to<00:37:41.680><c> a</c><00:37:41.920><c> topic</c><00:37:42.400><c> they</c><00:37:42.640><c> had</c><00:37:42.960><c> resisted</c><00:37:43.680><c> when</c><00:37:43.920><c> i</c>

00:37:44.069 --> 00:37:44.079 align:start position:0%
to a topic they had resisted when i
 

00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:48.310 align:start position:0%
to a topic they had resisted when i
proposed<00:37:44.720><c> it</c>

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which<00:37:48.560><c> was</c><00:37:48.800><c> proven</c><00:37:49.200><c> programs</c><00:37:49.839><c> correct</c>

00:37:51.670 --> 00:37:51.680 align:start position:0%
which was proven programs correct
 

00:37:51.680 --> 00:37:58.470 align:start position:0%
which was proven programs correct
both<00:37:51.920><c> of</c><00:37:52.079><c> them</c><00:37:52.320><c> did</c><00:37:52.480><c> that</c>

00:37:58.470 --> 00:37:58.480 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:02.069 align:start position:0%
 
the<00:37:59.200><c> name</c><00:37:59.520><c> of</c><00:37:59.839><c> braden</c>

00:38:02.069 --> 00:38:02.079 align:start position:0%
the name of braden
 

00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:05.990 align:start position:0%
the name of braden
forgotten<00:38:02.560><c> his</c><00:38:02.800><c> first</c><00:38:03.119><c> name</c><00:38:05.040><c> he</c><00:38:05.280><c> subsequently</c>

00:38:05.990 --> 00:38:06.000 align:start position:0%
forgotten his first name he subsequently
 

00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:17.030 align:start position:0%
forgotten his first name he subsequently
went<00:38:06.240><c> to</c><00:38:06.320><c> work</c>

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00:38:17.040 --> 00:38:20.950 align:start position:0%
 
now<00:38:17.280><c> there</c><00:38:17.440><c> was</c><00:38:17.839><c> jim</c><00:38:18.320><c> slagle</c>

00:38:20.950 --> 00:38:20.960 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:23.030 align:start position:0%
 
but<00:38:21.119><c> i</c><00:38:21.359><c> forget</c><00:38:21.760><c> whether</c><00:38:22.079><c> he</c><00:38:22.240><c> was</c><00:38:22.480><c> one</c><00:38:22.640><c> of</c><00:38:22.720><c> those</c>

00:38:23.030 --> 00:38:23.040 align:start position:0%
but i forget whether he was one of those
 

00:38:23.040 --> 00:38:31.430 align:start position:0%
but i forget whether he was one of those
six<00:38:23.359><c> or</c><00:38:23.520><c> not</c>

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in<00:38:31.680><c> the</c><00:38:32.000><c> spring</c><00:38:32.640><c> of</c><00:38:33.160><c> 1962</c>

00:38:35.270 --> 00:38:35.280 align:start position:0%
in the spring of 1962
 

00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:44.829 align:start position:0%
in the spring of 1962
mit<00:38:36.079><c> by</c><00:38:36.240><c> then</c><00:38:36.560><c> mit</c><00:38:37.040><c> had</c><00:38:37.200><c> promoted</c><00:38:37.760><c> me</c><00:38:38.000><c> to</c>

00:38:44.829 --> 00:38:44.839 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:38:44.839 --> 00:38:45.990 align:start position:0%
 
oh

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oh
 

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oh
after<00:38:46.560><c> this</c><00:38:47.760><c> confessed</c><00:38:48.320><c> to</c><00:38:48.480><c> double-crossing</c>

00:38:49.349 --> 00:38:49.359 align:start position:0%
after this confessed to double-crossing
 

00:38:49.359 --> 00:38:50.710 align:start position:0%
after this confessed to double-crossing
dartmouth

00:38:50.710 --> 00:38:50.720 align:start position:0%
dartmouth
 

00:38:50.720 --> 00:38:55.349 align:start position:0%
dartmouth
uh<00:38:52.480><c> john</c><00:38:52.800><c> kemeny</c><00:38:53.520><c> who</c><00:38:53.760><c> had</c>

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uh john kemeny who had
 

00:38:55.359 --> 00:39:03.349 align:start position:0%
uh john kemeny who had
hired<00:38:55.760><c> me</c><00:38:56.079><c> at</c><00:38:58.839><c> dartmouth</c>

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so<00:39:03.599><c> i</c><00:39:03.680><c> was</c><00:39:03.839><c> dartmouth's</c><00:39:04.400><c> representative</c><00:39:06.000><c> on</c>

00:39:06.230 --> 00:39:06.240 align:start position:0%
so i was dartmouth's representative on
 

00:39:06.240 --> 00:39:07.750 align:start position:0%
so i was dartmouth's representative on
this<00:39:06.560><c> thing</c>

00:39:07.750 --> 00:39:07.760 align:start position:0%
this thing
 

00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:11.670 align:start position:0%
this thing
and<00:39:08.320><c> i</c><00:39:08.640><c> got</c><00:39:08.880><c> a</c><00:39:09.040><c> sloan</c><00:39:09.440><c> foundation</c><00:39:10.240><c> fellowship</c>

00:39:11.670 --> 00:39:11.680 align:start position:0%
and i got a sloan foundation fellowship
 

00:39:11.680 --> 00:39:14.390 align:start position:0%
and i got a sloan foundation fellowship
which<00:39:11.920><c> i</c><00:39:12.160><c> spent</c><00:39:12.480><c> in</c><00:39:12.720><c> mit</c><00:39:13.520><c> that</c><00:39:13.680><c> is</c><00:39:13.920><c> for</c><00:39:14.160><c> one</c>

00:39:14.390 --> 00:39:14.400 align:start position:0%
which i spent in mit that is for one
 

00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:16.230 align:start position:0%
which i spent in mit that is for one
year

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year
 

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year
and

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mit<00:39:20.079><c> was</c><00:39:20.320><c> willing</c><00:39:20.640><c> to</c><00:39:20.800><c> hire</c><00:39:21.119><c> me</c>

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mit was willing to hire me
 

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mit was willing to hire me
and<00:39:23.920><c> as</c><00:39:24.240><c> a</c><00:39:25.839><c> assistant</c><00:39:26.400><c> professor</c><00:39:26.880><c> of</c>

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and as a assistant professor of
 

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and as a assistant professor of
communication

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communication
 

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communication
sciences<00:39:28.880><c> in</c><00:39:29.040><c> the</c><00:39:29.680><c> electrical</c><00:39:30.160><c> engineering</c>

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sciences in the electrical engineering
 

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sciences in the electrical engineering
department

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department
 

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department
and

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so<00:39:36.640><c> i</c>

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gave<00:39:40.480><c> up</c><00:39:40.560><c> the</c><00:39:40.720><c> dartmouth</c><00:39:41.200><c> appointment</c><00:39:41.760><c> and</c>

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gave up the dartmouth appointment and
 

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gave up the dartmouth appointment and
went<00:39:43.920><c> to</c><00:39:44.079><c> mit</c><00:39:46.720><c> and</c>

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went to mit and
 

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went to mit and
by<00:39:47.359><c> the</c><00:39:47.520><c> spring</c><00:39:47.839><c> of</c><00:39:48.000><c> 62</c><00:39:50.160><c> i</c><00:39:50.400><c> had</c><00:39:50.480><c> been</c><00:39:50.720><c> promoted</c>

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by the spring of 62 i had been promoted
 

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by the spring of 62 i had been promoted
to<00:39:51.520><c> associate</c><00:39:52.079><c> professor</c><00:39:52.800><c> at</c><00:39:52.960><c> mit</c>

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to associate professor at mit
 

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to associate professor at mit
and<00:39:55.920><c> i</c><00:39:56.079><c> got</c><00:39:58.000><c> quite</c><00:39:58.240><c> out</c><00:39:58.400><c> of</c><00:39:58.480><c> the</c><00:39:58.640><c> blue</c>

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and i got quite out of the blue
 

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and i got quite out of the blue
a<00:40:00.400><c> telephone</c><00:40:01.119><c> call</c><00:40:01.520><c> from</c><00:40:01.839><c> george</c><00:40:02.240><c> fox</c><00:40:02.640><c> forsyth</c>

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a telephone call from george fox forsyth
 

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a telephone call from george fox forsyth
at<00:40:03.520><c> stanford</c>

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at stanford
 

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at stanford
who<00:40:06.800><c> asked</c><00:40:07.119><c> me</c><00:40:07.280><c> if</c><00:40:07.440><c> i'd</c><00:40:07.680><c> be</c><00:40:07.839><c> willing</c><00:40:08.160><c> to</c><00:40:08.400><c> come</c>

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who asked me if i'd be willing to come
 

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who asked me if i'd be willing to come
to<00:40:08.839><c> stanford</c>

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to stanford
 

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to stanford
and<00:40:11.839><c> being</c><00:40:12.240><c> slightly</c>

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and being slightly
 

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and being slightly
miffed<00:40:14.720><c> by</c><00:40:15.040><c> stanford</c><00:40:15.760><c> having</c><00:40:16.160><c> previously</c>

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miffed by stanford having previously
 

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miffed by stanford having previously
decided<00:40:17.520><c> not</c><00:40:17.760><c> to</c>

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decided not to
 

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decided not to
keep<00:40:18.960><c> me</c><00:40:21.119><c> i</c><00:40:21.280><c> said</c><00:40:21.520><c> well</c><00:40:21.760><c> i've</c><00:40:21.839><c> been</c><00:40:22.079><c> at</c>

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keep me i said well i've been at
 

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keep me i said well i've been at
stanford<00:40:22.839><c> before</c>

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stanford before
 

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stanford before
i<00:40:24.720><c> could</c><00:40:24.960><c> only</c><00:40:25.200><c> come</c><00:40:25.440><c> as</c><00:40:25.599><c> a</c><00:40:25.760><c> full</c><00:40:26.000><c> professor</c>

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i could only come as a full professor
 

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i could only come as a full professor
and<00:40:28.400><c> i</c><00:40:28.560><c> thought</c><00:40:28.800><c> that</c><00:40:29.119><c> would</c><00:40:29.359><c> turn</c><00:40:29.680><c> him</c><00:40:29.839><c> off</c>

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and i thought that would turn him off
 

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and i thought that would turn him off
but<00:40:31.520><c> he</c><00:40:31.680><c> said</c><00:40:32.000><c> i</c><00:40:32.160><c> think</c><00:40:32.400><c> i</c><00:40:32.560><c> can</c><00:40:32.800><c> manage</c><00:40:33.280><c> that</c>

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uh

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uh
 

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uh
and<00:40:40.000><c> uh</c><00:40:42.000><c> i</c><00:40:42.160><c> was</c><00:40:42.319><c> very</c><00:40:42.640><c> startled</c><00:40:43.280><c> because</c><00:40:43.680><c> i've</c>

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and uh i was very startled because i've
 

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and uh i was very startled because i've
been

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been
 

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been
just<00:40:44.400><c> made</c><00:40:44.640><c> an</c><00:40:44.800><c> associate</c><00:40:45.359><c> professor</c><00:40:45.920><c> at</c><00:40:46.079><c> mit</c>

00:40:46.710 --> 00:40:46.720 align:start position:0%
just made an associate professor at mit
 

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just made an associate professor at mit
and<00:40:46.800><c> that</c><00:40:46.960><c> would</c>

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and that would
 

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and that would
be<00:40:48.160><c> a</c><00:40:48.319><c> jump</c><00:40:48.640><c> in</c><00:40:48.800><c> one</c><00:40:49.040><c> year</c><00:40:50.160><c> to</c><00:40:50.400><c> a</c><00:40:50.480><c> full</c>

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be a jump in one year to a full
 

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be a jump in one year to a full
professor

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and<00:40:56.560><c> i'd</c><00:40:56.880><c> never</c>

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heard<00:41:01.440><c> of</c><00:41:01.599><c> forsyth</c><00:41:02.319><c> before</c>

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heard of forsyth before
 

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heard of forsyth before
and<00:41:05.280><c> uh</c><00:41:05.760><c> later</c><00:41:06.160><c> on</c><00:41:06.480><c> when</c><00:41:06.720><c> i</c><00:41:07.040><c> looked</c><00:41:07.359><c> him</c><00:41:07.520><c> up</c>

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and uh later on when i looked him up
 

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and uh later on when i looked him up
he's<00:41:08.880><c> a</c><00:41:08.960><c> numerical</c><00:41:09.599><c> analyst</c><00:41:11.440><c> and</c><00:41:11.680><c> he</c><00:41:11.760><c> would</c>

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he's a numerical analyst and he would
 

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he's a numerical analyst and he would
have<00:41:12.079><c> had</c>

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have had
 

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have had
no<00:41:12.720><c> occasion</c><00:41:13.280><c> to</c><00:41:13.520><c> have</c><00:41:13.760><c> ever</c><00:41:14.000><c> read</c><00:41:14.240><c> a</c><00:41:14.400><c> paper</c><00:41:14.800><c> of</c>

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no occasion to have ever read a paper of
 

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no occasion to have ever read a paper of
mine

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mine
 

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mine
in<00:41:16.240><c> the</c><00:41:16.319><c> course</c><00:41:16.640><c> of</c><00:41:16.720><c> his</c><00:41:17.040><c> work</c><00:41:18.720><c> but</c><00:41:19.040><c> he</c>

00:41:19.670 --> 00:41:19.680 align:start position:0%
in the course of his work but he
 

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in the course of his work but he
was<00:41:20.240><c> had</c><00:41:20.480><c> the</c><00:41:20.640><c> ambition</c><00:41:22.400><c> to</c><00:41:22.560><c> have</c><00:41:22.800><c> a</c><00:41:22.960><c> computer</c>

00:41:23.510 --> 00:41:23.520 align:start position:0%
was had the ambition to have a computer
 

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was had the ambition to have a computer
science<00:41:23.920><c> department</c>

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science department
 

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science department
and

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i<00:41:29.119><c> had</c><00:41:29.440><c> already</c><00:41:29.760><c> had</c><00:41:30.079><c> some</c>

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i had already had some
 

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i had already had some
had<00:41:32.240><c> developed</c><00:41:32.640><c> some</c><00:41:32.880><c> reputation</c><00:41:33.680><c> there</c>

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i<00:41:37.760><c> don't</c><00:41:38.000><c> know</c><00:41:38.319><c> precisely</c><00:41:39.040><c> what</c><00:41:39.280><c> the</c>

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i don't know precisely what the
 

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i don't know precisely what the
reputation

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reputation
 

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reputation
was<00:41:42.800><c> it</c><00:41:43.040><c> certainly</c><00:41:43.440><c> was</c><00:41:43.680><c> connected</c><00:41:44.160><c> with</c><00:41:44.400><c> ai</c>

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was it certainly was connected with ai
 

00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:47.190 align:start position:0%
was it certainly was connected with ai
and<00:41:45.200><c> also</c><00:41:45.599><c> with</c><00:41:45.839><c> proving</c>

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and also with proving
 

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and also with proving
facts<00:41:47.520><c> about</c><00:41:47.920><c> computer</c><00:41:48.400><c> programs</c>

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but<00:41:53.920><c> anyway</c><00:41:54.640><c> um</c>

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now<00:41:57.280><c> mit</c><00:41:58.000><c> was</c><00:41:58.240><c> willing</c><00:41:58.640><c> to</c><00:41:59.520><c> there's</c><00:41:59.839><c> also</c>

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now mit was willing to there's also
 

00:42:01.200 --> 00:42:04.790 align:start position:0%
now mit was willing to there's also
a<00:42:01.440><c> jump</c><00:42:01.760><c> in</c><00:42:02.079><c> salary</c>

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associated<00:42:05.440><c> with</c><00:42:05.599><c> a</c><00:42:05.760><c> stanford</c><00:42:06.319><c> officer</c>

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associated with a stanford officer
 

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associated with a stanford officer
now<00:42:08.480><c> mit</c><00:42:08.960><c> was</c><00:42:09.200><c> willing</c><00:42:09.440><c> to</c><00:42:10.160><c> more</c><00:42:10.319><c> than</c><00:42:10.560><c> match</c>

00:42:10.870 --> 00:42:10.880 align:start position:0%
now mit was willing to more than match
 

00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:12.870 align:start position:0%
now mit was willing to more than match
the<00:42:11.119><c> salary</c>

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the salary
 

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the salary
which<00:42:13.119><c> was</c><00:42:13.599><c> startling</c><00:42:14.240><c> to</c><00:42:14.480><c> me</c><00:42:14.720><c> from</c><00:42:15.040><c> 9000</c><00:42:15.920><c> to</c>

00:42:17.750 --> 00:42:17.760 align:start position:0%
which was startling to me from 9000 to
 

00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:21.270 align:start position:0%
which was startling to me from 9000 to
mit<00:42:18.240><c> was</c><00:42:18.400><c> going</c><00:42:18.640><c> to</c><00:42:18.800><c> go</c><00:42:18.960><c> to</c><00:42:19.119><c> 15</c><00:42:19.680><c> 000</c>

00:42:21.270 --> 00:42:21.280 align:start position:0%
mit was going to go to 15 000
 

00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:22.710 align:start position:0%
mit was going to go to 15 000
but<00:42:21.440><c> they</c><00:42:21.599><c> weren't</c><00:42:21.839><c> willing</c><00:42:22.079><c> to</c><00:42:22.240><c> make</c><00:42:22.480><c> me</c><00:42:22.640><c> a</c>

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but they weren't willing to make me a
 

00:42:22.720 --> 00:42:25.270 align:start position:0%
but they weren't willing to make me a
full<00:42:22.960><c> professor</c><00:42:23.599><c> right</c><00:42:23.839><c> away</c>

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full professor right away
 

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full professor right away
because<00:42:26.079><c> they</c><00:42:26.400><c> considered</c>

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uh<00:42:29.680><c> minsk</c><00:42:30.079><c> and</c><00:42:30.319><c> me</c><00:42:30.480><c> to</c><00:42:30.640><c> be</c><00:42:30.880><c> a</c><00:42:31.040><c> pair</c>

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and<00:42:36.079><c> couldn't</c><00:42:36.400><c> promote</c>

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and couldn't promote
 

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and couldn't promote
didn't<00:42:37.359><c> feel</c><00:42:37.599><c> they</c><00:42:37.680><c> could</c><00:42:37.920><c> promote</c><00:42:38.319><c> one</c>

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didn't feel they could promote one
 

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didn't feel they could promote one
without<00:42:38.960><c> the</c><00:42:39.119><c> other</c>

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without the other
 

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without the other
and<00:42:40.560><c> we</c><00:42:40.640><c> were</c><00:42:40.800><c> in</c><00:42:40.960><c> different</c><00:42:41.280><c> departments</c><00:42:42.240><c> in</c>

00:42:42.390 --> 00:42:42.400 align:start position:0%
and we were in different departments in
 

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and we were in different departments in
a<00:42:42.800><c> math</c><00:42:43.119><c> department</c>

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would<00:42:48.000><c> have</c><00:42:48.160><c> had</c><00:42:48.400><c> to</c><00:42:48.640><c> agree</c>

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to<00:42:52.160><c> promote</c><00:42:52.560><c> minsky</c>

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so<00:42:56.000><c> they</c><00:42:56.160><c> were</c><00:42:56.640><c> willing</c><00:42:56.960><c> to</c><00:42:57.119><c> make</c><00:42:57.359><c> me</c><00:42:57.599><c> director</c>

00:42:58.069 --> 00:42:58.079 align:start position:0%
so they were willing to make me director
 

00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:00.069 align:start position:0%
so they were willing to make me director
of<00:42:58.240><c> research</c><00:42:58.800><c> for</c><00:42:58.960><c> the</c><00:42:59.119><c> computer</c><00:42:59.599><c> science</c>

00:43:00.069 --> 00:43:00.079 align:start position:0%
of research for the computer science
 

00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:02.150 align:start position:0%
of research for the computer science
department<00:43:00.720><c> and</c><00:43:00.880><c> so</c><00:43:01.119><c> forth</c>

00:43:02.150 --> 00:43:02.160 align:start position:0%
department and so forth
 

00:43:02.160 --> 00:43:04.150 align:start position:0%
department and so forth
but<00:43:02.400><c> i</c><00:43:02.560><c> really</c><00:43:02.880><c> did</c><00:43:03.119><c> like</c><00:43:03.359><c> california</c><00:43:04.079><c> and</c>

00:43:04.150 --> 00:43:04.160 align:start position:0%
but i really did like california and
 

00:43:04.160 --> 00:43:08.230 align:start position:0%
but i really did like california and
wanted<00:43:04.400><c> to</c><00:43:04.480><c> go</c><00:43:04.720><c> back</c><00:43:04.880><c> to</c><00:43:05.040><c> california</c>

00:43:08.230 --> 00:43:08.240 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:43:08.240 --> 00:43:10.829 align:start position:0%
 
so<00:43:08.480><c> i</c><00:43:08.640><c> ended</c><00:43:08.960><c> up</c><00:43:09.200><c> accepting</c><00:43:09.680><c> the</c><00:43:09.839><c> stanford</c>

00:43:10.829 --> 00:43:10.839 align:start position:0%
so i ended up accepting the stanford
 

00:43:10.839 --> 00:43:24.710 align:start position:0%
so i ended up accepting the stanford
office

00:43:24.710 --> 00:43:24.720 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:43:24.720 --> 00:43:27.670 align:start position:0%
 
it's<00:43:24.960><c> beautiful</c><00:43:25.359><c> here</c><00:43:25.839><c> um</c><00:43:26.720><c> so</c><00:43:27.040><c> it</c><00:43:27.119><c> was</c><00:43:27.280><c> anybody</c>

00:43:27.670 --> 00:43:27.680 align:start position:0%
it's beautiful here um so it was anybody
 

00:43:27.680 --> 00:43:29.589 align:start position:0%
it's beautiful here um so it was anybody
else<00:43:27.920><c> working</c><00:43:28.319><c> in</c><00:43:28.480><c> computer</c><00:43:28.960><c> science</c><00:43:29.440><c> at</c>

00:43:29.589 --> 00:43:29.599 align:start position:0%
else working in computer science at
 

00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:38.829 align:start position:0%
else working in computer science at
stanford<00:43:30.079><c> when</c><00:43:30.240><c> you've</c><00:43:31.720><c> arrived</c>

00:43:38.829 --> 00:43:38.839 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:43:38.839 --> 00:43:42.790 align:start position:0%
 
well

00:43:42.790 --> 00:43:42.800 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:47.510 align:start position:0%
 
forsythe<00:43:45.119><c> was</c><00:43:45.359><c> a</c><00:43:45.440><c> numerical</c><00:43:46.240><c> analyst</c>

00:43:47.510 --> 00:43:47.520 align:start position:0%
forsythe was a numerical analyst
 

00:43:47.520 --> 00:43:51.990 align:start position:0%
forsythe was a numerical analyst
and<00:43:49.280><c> he</c><00:43:49.520><c> considered</c><00:43:50.160><c> numerical</c><00:43:50.800><c> analysts</c>

00:43:51.990 --> 00:43:52.000 align:start position:0%
and he considered numerical analysts
 

00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:57.190 align:start position:0%
and he considered numerical analysts
analysis<00:43:52.720><c> to</c><00:43:52.880><c> be</c><00:43:53.119><c> part</c><00:43:53.440><c> of</c><00:43:54.960><c> computer</c><00:43:55.520><c> science</c>

00:43:57.190 --> 00:43:57.200 align:start position:0%
analysis to be part of computer science
 

00:43:57.200 --> 00:44:03.190 align:start position:0%
analysis to be part of computer science
i<00:43:57.440><c> was</c><00:43:57.680><c> the</c><00:43:57.839><c> first</c><00:43:58.240><c> person</c><00:43:58.720><c> he</c><00:43:58.960><c> hired</c>

00:44:03.190 --> 00:44:03.200 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:44:03.200 --> 00:44:06.790 align:start position:0%
 
and<00:44:03.359><c> then</c><00:44:03.920><c> the</c><00:44:04.319><c> second</c><00:44:04.720><c> person</c><00:44:05.200><c> was</c><00:44:05.440><c> a</c>

00:44:06.790 --> 00:44:06.800 align:start position:0%
and then the second person was a
 

00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:10.230 align:start position:0%
and then the second person was a
young<00:44:07.200><c> numerical</c><00:44:07.839><c> analyst</c>

00:44:10.230 --> 00:44:10.240 align:start position:0%
young numerical analyst
 

00:44:10.240 --> 00:44:19.829 align:start position:0%
young numerical analyst
jane<00:44:10.560><c> goblin</c>

00:44:19.829 --> 00:44:19.839 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:44:19.839 --> 00:44:24.150 align:start position:0%
 
and<00:44:20.160><c> uh</c><00:44:21.040><c> and</c><00:44:21.280><c> he</c><00:44:21.599><c> launched</c><00:44:22.000><c> a</c><00:44:22.160><c> great</c><00:44:22.480><c> campaign</c>

00:44:24.150 --> 00:44:24.160 align:start position:0%
and uh and he launched a great campaign
 

00:44:24.160 --> 00:44:27.270 align:start position:0%
and uh and he launched a great campaign
and<00:44:24.400><c> eventually</c><00:44:24.960><c> got</c><00:44:25.200><c> donald</c><00:44:25.599><c> trump</c>

00:44:27.270 --> 00:44:27.280 align:start position:0%
and eventually got donald trump
 

00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:30.870 align:start position:0%
and eventually got donald trump
to<00:44:27.520><c> come</c><00:44:27.760><c> to</c><00:44:27.920><c> stanford</c>

00:44:30.870 --> 00:44:30.880 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:36.069 align:start position:0%
 
so<00:44:31.119><c> forthcycle</c><00:44:31.760><c> was</c><00:44:34.839><c> up</c>

00:44:36.069 --> 00:44:36.079 align:start position:0%
so forthcycle was up
 

00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:40.069 align:start position:0%
so forthcycle was up
uh<00:44:38.960><c> that</c><00:44:39.200><c> was</c><00:44:39.520><c> a</c>

00:44:40.069 --> 00:44:40.079 align:start position:0%
uh that was a
 

00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:42.950 align:start position:0%
uh that was a
real<00:44:41.200><c> had</c><00:44:41.440><c> a</c><00:44:41.520><c> real</c><00:44:41.839><c> talent</c><00:44:42.240><c> for</c><00:44:42.480><c> building</c><00:44:42.880><c> a</c>

00:44:42.950 --> 00:44:42.960 align:start position:0%
real had a real talent for building a
 

00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:46.069 align:start position:0%
real had a real talent for building a
department

00:44:46.069 --> 00:44:46.079 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:49.430 align:start position:0%
 
we<00:44:46.240><c> were</c><00:44:46.560><c> the</c><00:44:47.760><c> second</c><00:44:48.400><c> computer</c><00:44:48.960><c> science</c>

00:44:49.430 --> 00:44:49.440 align:start position:0%
we were the second computer science
 

00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:51.190 align:start position:0%
we were the second computer science
department

00:44:51.190 --> 00:44:51.200 align:start position:0%
department
 

00:44:51.200 --> 00:44:54.950 align:start position:0%
department
in<00:44:51.359><c> the</c><00:44:51.520><c> country</c><00:44:51.920><c> and</c><00:44:52.079><c> maybe</c><00:44:52.400><c> in</c><00:44:52.480><c> the</c><00:44:52.640><c> world</c>

00:44:54.950 --> 00:44:54.960 align:start position:0%
in the country and maybe in the world
 

00:44:54.960 --> 00:45:16.829 align:start position:0%
in the country and maybe in the world
purdue<00:44:55.440><c> was</c><00:44:55.760><c> ahead</c><00:44:56.079><c> of</c><00:44:56.240><c> us</c><00:44:56.480><c> by</c><00:44:56.720><c> a</c><00:44:56.800><c> few</c><00:45:02.839><c> months</c>

00:45:16.829 --> 00:45:16.839 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:45:16.839 --> 00:45:22.230 align:start position:0%
 
well

00:45:22.230 --> 00:45:22.240 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:45:22.240 --> 00:45:25.510 align:start position:0%
 
the<00:45:22.480><c> students</c><00:45:22.880><c> who've</c><00:45:23.119><c> worked</c><00:45:23.440><c> for</c><00:45:23.599><c> me</c>

00:45:25.510 --> 00:45:25.520 align:start position:0%
the students who've worked for me
 

00:45:25.520 --> 00:45:28.230 align:start position:0%
the students who've worked for me
are<00:45:25.680><c> one</c><00:45:25.920><c> of</c><00:45:26.000><c> them</c><00:45:27.119><c> who</c><00:45:27.280><c> worked</c><00:45:27.520><c> for</c><00:45:27.760><c> me</c><00:45:27.920><c> on</c><00:45:28.079><c> the</c>

00:45:28.230 --> 00:45:28.240 align:start position:0%
are one of them who worked for me on the
 

00:45:28.240 --> 00:45:30.309 align:start position:0%
are one of them who worked for me on the
chess<00:45:28.560><c> program</c>

00:45:30.309 --> 00:45:30.319 align:start position:0%
chess program
 

00:45:30.319 --> 00:45:33.990 align:start position:0%
chess program
now<00:45:30.640><c> on</c><00:45:30.839><c> kodak</c><00:45:32.960><c> went</c><00:45:33.119><c> to</c><00:45:33.280><c> work</c><00:45:33.599><c> for</c>

00:45:33.990 --> 00:45:34.000 align:start position:0%
now on kodak went to work for
 

00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:38.790 align:start position:0%
now on kodak went to work for
dec<00:45:36.160><c> and</c><00:45:36.640><c> was</c><00:45:36.880><c> one</c><00:45:37.119><c> of</c><00:45:37.200><c> the</c><00:45:37.440><c> designers</c><00:45:38.319><c> of</c><00:45:38.560><c> the</c>

00:45:38.790 --> 00:45:38.800 align:start position:0%
dec and was one of the designers of the
 

00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:41.990 align:start position:0%
dec and was one of the designers of the
pdp-6

00:45:41.990 --> 00:45:42.000 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:45.670 align:start position:0%
 
and<00:45:43.280><c> one</c><00:45:43.520><c> of</c><00:45:43.599><c> the</c><00:45:43.839><c> ideas</c>

00:45:45.670 --> 00:45:45.680 align:start position:0%
and one of the ideas
 

00:45:45.680 --> 00:45:47.510 align:start position:0%
and one of the ideas
that<00:45:45.839><c> he</c><00:45:46.079><c> and</c><00:45:46.240><c> the</c><00:45:46.400><c> other</c><00:45:46.640><c> people</c><00:45:46.960><c> that</c><00:45:47.200><c> that</c>

00:45:47.510 --> 00:45:47.520 align:start position:0%
that he and the other people that that
 

00:45:47.520 --> 00:45:49.750 align:start position:0%
that he and the other people that that
took<00:45:47.839><c> from</c><00:45:48.079><c> me</c>

00:45:49.750 --> 00:45:49.760 align:start position:0%
took from me
 

00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:55.109 align:start position:0%
took from me
which

00:45:55.109 --> 00:45:55.119 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:58.309 align:start position:0%
 
was<00:45:55.280><c> the</c><00:45:55.440><c> idea</c><00:45:55.760><c> of</c><00:45:55.920><c> time</c><00:45:56.240><c> sharing</c>

00:45:58.309 --> 00:45:58.319 align:start position:0%
was the idea of time sharing
 

00:45:58.319 --> 00:46:04.390 align:start position:0%
was the idea of time sharing
which<00:45:58.640><c> i</c><00:45:58.800><c> hadn't</c><00:45:59.119><c> mentioned</c><00:45:59.599><c> before</c>

00:46:04.390 --> 00:46:04.400 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:07.510 align:start position:0%
 
somewhere<00:46:04.880><c> at</c><00:46:05.040><c> mit</c><00:46:05.680><c> there's</c><00:46:06.000><c> a</c><00:46:06.079><c> big</c>

00:46:07.510 --> 00:46:07.520 align:start position:0%
somewhere at mit there's a big
 

00:46:07.520 --> 00:46:09.750 align:start position:0%
somewhere at mit there's a big
set<00:46:07.760><c> of</c><00:46:08.000><c> oral</c><00:46:08.400><c> interviews</c><00:46:09.040><c> with</c><00:46:09.280><c> me</c><00:46:09.440><c> on</c><00:46:09.680><c> the</c>

00:46:09.750 --> 00:46:09.760 align:start position:0%
set of oral interviews with me on the
 

00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:12.829 align:start position:0%
set of oral interviews with me on the
subject<00:46:10.240><c> of</c><00:46:10.400><c> time</c><00:46:10.640><c> sharing</c>

00:46:12.829 --> 00:46:12.839 align:start position:0%
subject of time sharing
 

00:46:12.839 --> 00:46:16.470 align:start position:0%
subject of time sharing
but

00:46:16.470 --> 00:46:16.480 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:20.309 align:start position:0%
 
but<00:46:16.800><c> anyway</c><00:46:17.280><c> the</c><00:46:17.520><c> pdp-6</c><00:46:18.560><c> was</c>

00:46:20.309 --> 00:46:20.319 align:start position:0%
but anyway the pdp-6 was
 

00:46:20.319 --> 00:46:23.829 align:start position:0%
but anyway the pdp-6 was
had<00:46:20.720><c> in</c><00:46:20.880><c> it</c>

00:46:23.829 --> 00:46:23.839 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:46:23.839 --> 00:46:27.270 align:start position:0%
 
uh<00:46:24.480><c> an</c><00:46:24.720><c> interrupt</c><00:46:25.359><c> system</c><00:46:26.079><c> designed</c><00:46:26.720><c> for</c><00:46:26.960><c> time</c>

00:46:27.270 --> 00:46:27.280 align:start position:0%
uh an interrupt system designed for time
 

00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:28.950 align:start position:0%
uh an interrupt system designed for time
sharing

00:46:28.950 --> 00:46:28.960 align:start position:0%
sharing
 

00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:33.990 align:start position:0%
sharing
and<00:46:29.359><c> also</c><00:46:29.839><c> some</c><00:46:30.079><c> instructions</c><00:46:30.880><c> that</c><00:46:31.119><c> were</c>

00:46:33.990 --> 00:46:34.000 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:39.589 align:start position:0%
 
suitable<00:46:34.480><c> for</c><00:46:34.720><c> lisp</c>

00:46:39.589 --> 00:46:39.599 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:42.950 align:start position:0%
 
it<00:46:39.760><c> didn't</c><00:46:40.000><c> require</c><00:46:40.560><c> much</c><00:46:41.680><c> or</c><00:46:42.400><c> rather</c><00:46:42.800><c> it</c>

00:46:42.950 --> 00:46:42.960 align:start position:0%
it didn't require much or rather it
 

00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:43.589 align:start position:0%
it didn't require much or rather it
didn't<00:46:43.200><c> make</c>

00:46:43.589 --> 00:46:43.599 align:start position:0%
didn't make
 

00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:47.190 align:start position:0%
didn't make
it<00:46:43.680><c> was</c><00:46:44.079><c> much</c><00:46:44.400><c> better</c><00:46:46.160><c> without</c><00:46:46.560><c> it</c>

00:46:47.190 --> 00:46:47.200 align:start position:0%
it was much better without it
 

00:46:47.200 --> 00:46:54.829 align:start position:0%
it was much better without it
they<00:46:47.359><c> were</c><00:46:47.599><c> half</c><00:46:47.839><c> word</c><00:46:48.079><c> manipulation</c>

00:46:54.829 --> 00:46:54.839 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:46:54.839 --> 00:46:56.950 align:start position:0%
 
instructions

00:46:56.950 --> 00:46:56.960 align:start position:0%
instructions
 

00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:59.510 align:start position:0%
instructions
but<00:46:57.200><c> oh</c><00:46:57.520><c> we</c><00:46:57.680><c> didn't</c><00:46:58.240><c> give</c><00:46:58.480><c> it</c><00:46:58.640><c> a</c><00:46:58.720><c> big</c><00:46:58.960><c> advantage</c>

00:46:59.510 --> 00:46:59.520 align:start position:0%
but oh we didn't give it a big advantage
 

00:46:59.520 --> 00:47:01.270 align:start position:0%
but oh we didn't give it a big advantage
over<00:46:59.839><c> any</c><00:47:00.160><c> other</c>

00:47:01.270 --> 00:47:01.280 align:start position:0%
over any other
 

00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:05.589 align:start position:0%
over any other
computer<00:47:03.520><c> that</c><00:47:03.839><c> existed</c><00:47:04.480><c> at</c><00:47:04.640><c> the</c><00:47:04.800><c> time</c><00:47:05.200><c> in</c><00:47:05.359><c> any</c>

00:47:05.589 --> 00:47:05.599 align:start position:0%
computer that existed at the time in any
 

00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:07.510 align:start position:0%
computer that existed at the time in any
country

00:47:07.510 --> 00:47:07.520 align:start position:0%
country
 

00:47:07.520 --> 00:47:12.950 align:start position:0%
country
that<00:47:09.119><c> is</c><00:47:09.440><c> that</c><00:47:09.599><c> it</c><00:47:09.760><c> had</c><00:47:10.000><c> an</c><00:47:10.160><c> 18-bit</c><00:47:10.960><c> address</c>

00:47:12.950 --> 00:47:12.960 align:start position:0%
that is that it had an 18-bit address
 

00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:17.349 align:start position:0%
that is that it had an 18-bit address
and<00:47:15.760><c> the</c>

00:47:17.349 --> 00:47:17.359 align:start position:0%
and the
 

00:47:17.359 --> 00:47:21.190 align:start position:0%
and the
ibm<00:47:18.000><c> 704</c><00:47:19.280><c> and</c><00:47:19.520><c> its</c><00:47:19.680><c> successors</c>

00:47:21.190 --> 00:47:21.200 align:start position:0%
ibm 704 and its successors
 

00:47:21.200 --> 00:47:24.950 align:start position:0%
ibm 704 and its successors
could<00:47:21.440><c> have</c><00:47:21.680><c> had</c><00:47:21.920><c> an</c><00:47:22.079><c> 18-bit</c><00:47:22.839><c> address</c>

00:47:24.950 --> 00:47:24.960 align:start position:0%
could have had an 18-bit address
 

00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:28.950 align:start position:0%
could have had an 18-bit address
but<00:47:25.760><c> the</c><00:47:26.000><c> engineers</c><00:47:27.920><c> could</c><00:47:28.160><c> not</c><00:47:28.319><c> build</c><00:47:28.640><c> such</c><00:47:28.880><c> a</c>

00:47:28.950 --> 00:47:28.960 align:start position:0%
but the engineers could not build such a
 

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but the engineers could not build such a
big<00:47:29.200><c> memory</c><00:47:29.680><c> at</c><00:47:29.760><c> the</c><00:47:30.000><c> time</c>

00:47:31.750 --> 00:47:31.760 align:start position:0%
big memory at the time
 

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big memory at the time
and<00:47:32.000><c> so</c><00:47:32.400><c> they</c><00:47:34.640><c> designed</c><00:47:35.359><c> it</c>

00:47:37.190 --> 00:47:37.200 align:start position:0%
and so they designed it
 

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and so they designed it
so<00:47:37.440><c> that</c><00:47:37.680><c> a</c><00:47:37.760><c> 15-bit</c><00:47:38.559><c> address</c><00:47:39.040><c> was</c><00:47:39.200><c> the</c><00:47:39.359><c> maximum</c>

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so that a 15-bit address was the maximum
 

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so that a 15-bit address was the maximum
the<00:47:40.160><c> 704</c><00:47:40.960><c> could</c><00:47:41.200><c> have</c>

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the 704 could have
 

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the 704 could have
and<00:47:42.880><c> when</c><00:47:43.119><c> the</c><00:47:44.400><c> soviets</c><00:47:45.119><c> copied</c>

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and when the soviets copied
 

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and when the soviets copied
american<00:47:47.599><c> computers</c><00:47:48.240><c> they</c><00:47:48.559><c> also</c><00:47:49.119><c> did</c><00:47:49.359><c> a</c>

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american computers they also did a
 

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american computers they also did a
15-bit<00:47:50.839><c> address</c>

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15-bit address
 

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15-bit address
but<00:47:52.640><c> the</c><00:47:52.960><c> soviets</c><00:47:53.520><c> copied</c><00:47:53.920><c> the</c><00:47:54.079><c> 15</c><00:47:54.559><c> beta</c>

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but the soviets copied the 15 beta
 

00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:56.230 align:start position:0%
but the soviets copied the 15 beta
address

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address
 

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address
just<00:47:56.640><c> about</c><00:47:56.960><c> the</c><00:47:57.200><c> time</c><00:47:58.640><c> when</c><00:47:58.960><c> the</c>

00:47:59.990 --> 00:48:00.000 align:start position:0%
just about the time when the
 

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just about the time when the
ibm<00:48:00.640><c> had</c><00:48:00.800><c> decided</c><00:48:01.359><c> that</c><00:48:01.680><c> no</c><00:48:01.920><c> a</c><00:48:02.000><c> 15-bit</c><00:48:02.720><c> address</c>

00:48:03.030 --> 00:48:03.040 align:start position:0%
ibm had decided that no a 15-bit address
 

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ibm had decided that no a 15-bit address
was<00:48:03.280><c> too</c><00:48:03.520><c> small</c>

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was too small
 

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was too small
uh

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so<00:48:13.680><c> soviet</c><00:48:14.319><c> sm6</c><00:48:14.960><c> had</c><00:48:15.200><c> a</c><00:48:15.280><c> 15-bit</c><00:48:18.839><c> address</c>

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so<00:48:23.440><c> anyway</c>

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let's<00:48:27.200><c> see</c><00:48:27.359><c> what's</c><00:48:27.680><c> relevant</c><00:48:28.160><c> here</c>

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oh<00:48:31.920><c> we</c><00:48:32.079><c> want</c><00:48:32.240><c> to</c><00:48:32.319><c> make</c><00:48:32.480><c> the</c><00:48:32.640><c> path</c><00:48:32.880><c> to</c><00:48:33.119><c> the</c>

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oh we want to make the path to the
 

00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:39.670 align:start position:0%
oh we want to make the path to the
stanford<00:48:35.920><c> ai</c><00:48:36.240><c> lab</c><00:48:37.520><c> uh</c><00:48:38.319><c> well</c>

00:48:39.670 --> 00:48:39.680 align:start position:0%
stanford ai lab uh well
 

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stanford ai lab uh well
uh<00:48:42.079><c> dec</c><00:48:42.640><c> gave</c>

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uh dec gave
 

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uh dec gave
me<00:48:45.200><c> or</c><00:48:45.760><c> or</c><00:48:46.000><c> the</c><00:48:46.400><c> you</c><00:48:46.480><c> know</c><00:48:46.839><c> stanford</c>

00:48:48.390 --> 00:48:48.400 align:start position:0%
me or or the you know stanford
 

00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:52.549 align:start position:0%
me or or the you know stanford
uh<00:48:48.880><c> a</c><00:48:49.119><c> pep</c><00:48:49.680><c> one</c><00:48:50.000><c> computer</c>

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oh<00:48:53.200><c> i</c><00:48:53.440><c> had</c><00:48:54.079><c> designed</c><00:48:54.720><c> a</c><00:48:54.880><c> time</c><00:48:55.200><c> sharing</c><00:48:55.599><c> system</c>

00:48:55.990 --> 00:48:56.000 align:start position:0%
oh i had designed a time sharing system
 

00:48:56.000 --> 00:49:02.710 align:start position:0%
oh i had designed a time sharing system
for<00:48:56.240><c> a</c><00:48:56.319><c> pdp-1</c><00:49:00.839><c> computer</c>

00:49:02.710 --> 00:49:02.720 align:start position:0%
for a pdp-1 computer
 

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for a pdp-1 computer
as<00:49:03.040><c> a</c><00:49:03.119><c> one</c><00:49:03.359><c> day</c><00:49:03.599><c> a</c><00:49:03.680><c> week</c><00:49:04.000><c> consultant</c>

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uh<00:49:08.000><c> bbn</c>

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and

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and
 

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and
it<00:49:17.280><c> was</c><00:49:17.599><c> programmed</c><00:49:18.400><c> by</c>

00:49:20.710 --> 00:49:20.720 align:start position:0%
it was programmed by
 

00:49:20.720 --> 00:49:23.829 align:start position:0%
it was programmed by
sheldon<00:49:21.200><c> boylan</c>

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who<00:49:24.000><c> was</c>

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just<00:49:27.520><c> graduated</c><00:49:28.319><c> as</c><00:49:28.480><c> a</c><00:49:28.640><c> history</c>

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the<00:49:35.839><c> actual</c><00:49:36.319><c> programming</c><00:49:36.880><c> of</c><00:49:37.040><c> it</c><00:49:37.200><c> was</c><00:49:37.440><c> the</c><00:49:37.520><c> one</c>

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the actual programming of it was the one
 

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the actual programming of it was the one
man<00:49:38.160><c> ever</c>

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man ever
 

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man ever
he<00:49:40.480><c> never</c><00:49:40.800><c> did</c><00:49:41.040><c> anything</c><00:49:41.520><c> else</c><00:49:41.839><c> in</c><00:49:41.920><c> computer</c>

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he never did anything else in computer
 

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he never did anything else in computer
science<00:49:43.040><c> in</c><00:49:43.200><c> computing</c>

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science in computing
 

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science in computing
after<00:49:45.040><c> that</c><00:49:47.040><c> maybe</c><00:49:47.359><c> have</c><00:49:47.680><c> worn</c><00:49:48.160><c> out</c>

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uh

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jack<00:50:00.880><c> dennis</c><00:50:01.359><c> at</c><00:50:01.520><c> mit</c><00:50:02.079><c> did</c><00:50:02.319><c> another</c>

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jack dennis at mit did another
 

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jack dennis at mit did another
time<00:50:04.079><c> sharing</c><00:50:04.480><c> system</c><00:50:04.880><c> for</c><00:50:05.040><c> the</c><00:50:05.200><c> pdp</c><00:50:05.760><c> one</c>

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time sharing system for the pdp one
 

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time sharing system for the pdp one
because<00:50:07.760><c> the</c><00:50:10.240><c> pdp</c><00:50:10.800><c> one</c>

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because the pdp one
 

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because the pdp one
that<00:50:13.200><c> that</c><00:50:13.599><c> gave</c><00:50:13.920><c> mit</c>

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that that gave mit
 

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that that gave mit
was<00:50:16.800><c> more</c><00:50:17.040><c> limited</c><00:50:17.599><c> than</c><00:50:17.760><c> the</c><00:50:17.920><c> one</c><00:50:18.079><c> that</c><00:50:18.319><c> vbn</c>

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was more limited than the one that vbn
 

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was more limited than the one that vbn
bought

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it<00:50:24.319><c> couldn't</c><00:50:24.720><c> have</c><00:50:24.960><c> the</c><00:50:25.119><c> same</c><00:50:25.520><c> time</c><00:50:25.839><c> sharing</c>

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it couldn't have the same time sharing
 

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it couldn't have the same time sharing
system

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system
 

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system
so<00:50:28.640><c> anyway</c>

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so<00:50:31.760><c> now</c><00:50:32.240><c> the</c><00:50:32.400><c> stanford</c><00:50:32.960><c> ai</c><00:50:33.359><c> lab</c>

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okay

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i<00:50:44.240><c> read</c><00:50:44.480><c> a</c><00:50:44.559><c> book</c>

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called<00:50:48.400><c> a</c><00:50:48.640><c> study</c><00:50:49.119><c> of</c><00:50:49.359><c> thinking</c>

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called a study of thinking
 

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called a study of thinking
by<00:50:52.000><c> jerome</c><00:50:52.839><c> broner</c>

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and<00:50:57.440><c> it</c><00:50:57.599><c> was</c><00:50:57.839><c> the</c><00:50:58.000><c> notion</c><00:50:58.480><c> of</c>

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and it was the notion of
 

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and it was the notion of
it<00:50:59.440><c> had</c><00:50:59.680><c> a</c><00:50:59.760><c> notion</c><00:51:00.160><c> of</c><00:51:00.319><c> concept</c><00:51:01.200><c> in</c><00:51:01.359><c> it</c>

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and<00:51:04.000><c> the</c><00:51:04.160><c> notion</c><00:51:04.559><c> of</c><00:51:04.800><c> concept</c><00:51:05.520><c> was</c><00:51:06.720><c> a</c><00:51:06.960><c> boolean</c>

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and the notion of concept was a boolean
 

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and the notion of concept was a boolean
combination

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combination
 

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combination
of<00:51:09.760><c> elementary</c><00:51:10.559><c> concepts</c>

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and<00:51:18.079><c> i</c><00:51:18.240><c> thought</c><00:51:18.480><c> that</c><00:51:18.640><c> was</c><00:51:20.839><c> wrong</c>

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because<00:51:26.559><c> it</c><00:51:26.720><c> didn't</c><00:51:27.119><c> allow</c><00:51:27.520><c> for</c><00:51:27.839><c> relations</c>

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and

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and<00:51:35.680><c> they</c><00:51:35.839><c> were</c><00:51:36.079><c> particularly</c><00:51:36.960><c> interested</c><00:51:37.599><c> in</c>

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and they were particularly interested in
 

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and they were particularly interested in
vision

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vision
 

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vision
so<00:51:41.040><c> you</c><00:51:41.200><c> could</c>

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consider<00:51:44.000><c> the</c><00:51:44.160><c> concepts</c><00:51:44.800><c> of</c><00:51:44.960><c> the</c><00:51:45.200><c> shapes</c><00:51:45.599><c> of</c>

00:51:45.750 --> 00:51:45.760 align:start position:0%
consider the concepts of the shapes of
 

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consider the concepts of the shapes of
the<00:51:46.000><c> letters</c>

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the letters
 

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the letters
that<00:51:48.839><c> is</c><00:51:50.240><c> uh</c>

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is<00:51:55.040><c> it</c><00:51:55.280><c> convex</c><00:51:57.680><c> uh</c>

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is it convex uh
 

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is it convex uh
does<00:51:58.319><c> it</c><00:51:58.400><c> have</c><00:51:58.640><c> a</c><00:51:58.720><c> hole</c><00:51:59.040><c> in</c><00:51:59.200><c> it</c><00:51:59.440><c> and</c><00:51:59.839><c> so</c><00:52:00.079><c> forth</c>

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if<00:52:03.520><c> you</c><00:52:03.760><c> think</c><00:52:04.000><c> of</c><00:52:04.160><c> enough</c><00:52:04.480><c> elementary</c>

00:52:05.190 --> 00:52:05.200 align:start position:0%
if you think of enough elementary
 

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if you think of enough elementary
concepts

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you<00:52:12.079><c> can</c><00:52:12.319><c> make</c><00:52:12.559><c> enough</c><00:52:14.079><c> combinations</c>

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you can make enough combinations
 

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you can make enough combinations
to<00:52:16.839><c> discriminate</c>

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to discriminate
 

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to discriminate
the<00:52:21.119><c> alphabet</c>

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but<00:52:27.040><c> my</c><00:52:27.280><c> complaint</c>

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but my complaint
 

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but my complaint
is<00:52:28.400><c> that</c><00:52:28.559><c> it</c><00:52:30.800><c> wouldn't</c><00:52:31.040><c> really</c>

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is that it wouldn't really
 

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is that it wouldn't really
enable<00:52:32.000><c> you</c><00:52:32.240><c> to</c><00:52:32.480><c> draw</c><00:52:34.559><c> a</c><00:52:34.720><c> letter</c>

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enable you to draw a letter
 

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enable you to draw a letter
that<00:52:36.960><c> you</c><00:52:37.119><c> should</c><00:52:37.440><c> consider</c>

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that you should consider
 

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that you should consider
uh<00:52:40.640><c> for</c><00:52:40.880><c> example</c>

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uh for example
 

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uh for example
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a letter that has a vertical line
 

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a letter that has a vertical line
segment<00:52:49.839><c> and</c>

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segment and
 

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segment and
three

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horizontal<00:52:55.359><c> line</c><00:52:55.839><c> segments</c>

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which<00:53:00.400><c> uh</c>

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which uh
 

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which uh
point<00:53:02.640><c> to</c><00:53:02.800><c> the</c><00:53:02.960><c> right</c><00:53:04.960><c> from</c>

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point to the right from
 

00:53:05.680 --> 00:53:09.430 align:start position:0%
point to the right from
the<00:53:05.920><c> top</c><00:53:06.240><c> middle</c><00:53:06.960><c> and</c><00:53:07.119><c> bottom</c>

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the top middle and bottom
 

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the top middle and bottom
of<00:53:09.599><c> the</c><00:53:09.760><c> vertical</c>

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and<00:53:14.160><c> each</c><00:53:14.480><c> about</c>

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and each about
 

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and each about
two-thirds<00:53:16.400><c> the</c><00:53:16.559><c> length</c><00:53:17.040><c> of</c><00:53:17.200><c> the</c><00:53:17.359><c> vertical</c>

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now<00:53:20.319><c> you</c><00:53:20.480><c> can</c><00:53:20.640><c> tell</c><00:53:20.960><c> some</c><00:53:21.200><c> of</c><00:53:21.280><c> that</c><00:53:21.520><c> over</c>

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now you can tell some of that over
 

00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:23.829 align:start position:0%
now you can tell some of that over
somebody<00:53:22.319><c> that</c><00:53:22.559><c> over</c><00:53:22.800><c> the</c><00:53:22.960><c> telephone</c><00:53:23.680><c> and</c>

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somebody that over the telephone and
 

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somebody that over the telephone and
they<00:53:24.000><c> can</c><00:53:24.240><c> draw</c><00:53:24.559><c> it</c>

00:53:25.670 --> 00:53:25.680 align:start position:0%
they can draw it
 

00:53:25.680 --> 00:53:32.230 align:start position:0%
they can draw it
and<00:53:26.160><c> turn</c><00:53:26.400><c> out</c><00:53:26.559><c> to</c><00:53:26.720><c> be</c><00:53:26.960><c> a</c><00:53:27.119><c> capital</c><00:53:27.599><c> e</c>

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or<00:53:32.480><c> you</c><00:53:32.640><c> can</c><00:53:32.880><c> take</c><00:53:33.200><c> the</c><00:53:33.359><c> same</c><00:53:33.680><c> thing</c><00:53:34.000><c> and</c><00:53:34.160><c> wrote</c>

00:53:34.390 --> 00:53:34.400 align:start position:0%
or you can take the same thing and wrote
 

00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:37.910 align:start position:0%
or you can take the same thing and wrote
it<00:53:34.800><c> rotate</c><00:53:35.200><c> it</c><00:53:35.440><c> by</c>

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counterclockwise<00:53:38.960><c> by</c><00:53:39.200><c> 90</c><00:53:40.839><c> degrees</c>

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counterclockwise by 90 degrees
 

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counterclockwise by 90 degrees
this<00:53:42.960><c> russian</c><00:53:43.359><c> letter</c><00:53:43.760><c> shop</c>

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so<00:53:49.520><c> my</c><00:53:49.760><c> slogan</c><00:53:50.240><c> was</c><00:53:50.640><c> description</c><00:53:51.440><c> not</c>

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discrimination

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discrimination
 

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discrimination
and<00:53:57.599><c> in</c><00:53:57.760><c> particular</c><00:53:58.480><c> i</c><00:53:58.720><c> pointed</c><00:53:59.200><c> out</c>

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that<00:54:01.920><c> if</c><00:54:02.079><c> you</c><00:54:02.240><c> wanted</c><00:54:02.559><c> to</c><00:54:02.800><c> do</c><00:54:03.280><c> manipulation</c>

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then<00:54:07.040><c> description</c><00:54:07.680><c> was</c><00:54:07.920><c> what</c><00:54:08.079><c> you</c><00:54:08.839><c> needed</c>

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then description was what you needed
 

00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:11.910 align:start position:0%
then description was what you needed
of<00:54:10.160><c> the</c><00:54:10.319><c> objects</c><00:54:10.960><c> that</c><00:54:11.200><c> you</c><00:54:11.359><c> were</c><00:54:11.520><c> going</c><00:54:11.760><c> to</c>

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of the objects that you were going to
 

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of the objects that you were going to
manipulate

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so<00:54:15.200><c> if</c><00:54:15.280><c> you</c><00:54:15.440><c> were</c><00:54:15.599><c> going</c><00:54:15.760><c> to</c><00:54:15.920><c> do</c><00:54:17.760><c> robotics</c>

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so if you were going to do robotics
 

00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:24.870 align:start position:0%
so if you were going to do robotics
then<00:54:20.640><c> you</c><00:54:20.880><c> needed</c><00:54:22.839><c> description</c>

00:54:24.870 --> 00:54:24.880 align:start position:0%
then you needed description
 

00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:29.109 align:start position:0%
then you needed description
so

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i<00:54:29.359><c> asked</c><00:54:29.839><c> for</c><00:54:30.160><c> money</c>

00:54:32.470 --> 00:54:32.480 align:start position:0%
i asked for money
 

00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:35.910 align:start position:0%
i asked for money
for<00:54:32.640><c> the</c><00:54:32.800><c> stanford</c><00:54:33.359><c> ai</c><00:54:33.760><c> lab</c>

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for the stanford ai lab
 

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for the stanford ai lab
to<00:54:36.079><c> get</c><00:54:36.240><c> a</c><00:54:36.319><c> pdp</c><00:54:36.960><c> 6</c><00:54:37.359><c> computer</c>

00:54:39.589 --> 00:54:39.599 align:start position:0%
to get a pdp 6 computer
 

00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:42.309 align:start position:0%
to get a pdp 6 computer
not<00:54:39.920><c> being</c><00:54:40.319><c> satisfied</c><00:54:41.119><c> with</c><00:54:41.280><c> the</c><00:54:41.440><c> pdp</c><00:54:42.000><c> one</c>

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not being satisfied with the pdp one
 

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not being satisfied with the pdp one
computer<00:54:42.880><c> the</c>

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computer the
 

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computer the
deck<00:54:43.440><c> had</c><00:54:43.599><c> given</c><00:54:44.000><c> me</c><00:54:45.440><c> and</c><00:54:45.760><c> that</c>

00:54:46.230 --> 00:54:46.240 align:start position:0%
deck had given me and that
 

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deck had given me and that
i<00:54:47.839><c> got</c><00:54:48.160><c> beefed</c><00:54:48.559><c> up</c><00:54:50.839><c> by</c>

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uh<00:54:54.880><c> i</c><00:54:55.520><c> set</c><00:54:55.760><c> for</c><00:54:55.920><c> grant</c>

00:54:57.670 --> 00:54:57.680 align:start position:0%
uh i set for grant
 

00:54:57.680 --> 00:55:03.349 align:start position:0%
uh i set for grant
and<00:54:58.000><c> sharing</c><00:54:58.559><c> with</c><00:55:00.079><c> patrick</c><00:55:00.480><c> soupy's</c>

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and<00:55:04.000><c> so</c><00:55:04.720><c> we</c><00:55:04.880><c> did</c>

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get<00:55:08.400><c> to</c><00:55:08.559><c> say</c><00:55:08.880><c> islam</c>

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get to say islam
 

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get to say islam
and

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the<00:55:16.400><c> now</c>

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i'm<00:55:19.359><c> not</c><00:55:19.680><c> sure</c><00:55:20.079><c> when</c><00:55:20.319><c> the</c><00:55:20.480><c> word</c><00:55:20.799><c> robotics</c><00:55:21.680><c> came</c>

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i'm not sure when the word robotics came
 

00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:24.549 align:start position:0%
i'm not sure when the word robotics came
in

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uh<00:55:27.520><c> now</c><00:55:27.760><c> of</c><00:55:27.920><c> course</c><00:55:28.240><c> the</c><00:55:28.400><c> word</c>

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uh now of course the word
 

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uh now of course the word
robot<00:55:31.040><c> came</c><00:55:31.359><c> up</c><00:55:31.520><c> in</c><00:55:31.760><c> science</c><00:55:32.839><c> fiction</c><00:55:33.839><c> long</c>

00:55:34.230 --> 00:55:34.240 align:start position:0%
robot came up in science fiction long
 

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robot came up in science fiction long
before<00:55:34.880><c> it</c><00:55:35.040><c> came</c>

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before it came
 

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before it came
up<00:55:37.599><c> in</c><00:55:37.760><c> any</c><00:55:38.160><c> science</c>

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up in any science
 

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up in any science
are<00:55:40.240><c> you</c><00:55:40.400><c> familiar</c><00:55:40.720><c> with</c><00:55:40.880><c> the</c><00:55:40.960><c> history</c><00:55:41.359><c> of</c>

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are you familiar with the history of
 

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are you familiar with the history of
that<00:55:42.799><c> topic</c>

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that topic
 

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that topic
yeah<00:55:46.839><c> right</c>

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yeah right
 

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yeah right
now

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we<00:55:52.720><c> were</c><00:55:52.960><c> certainly</c><00:55:54.240><c> her</c><00:55:54.559><c> i</c><00:55:54.799><c> was</c><00:55:54.960><c> certainly</c>

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we were certainly her i was certainly
 

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we were certainly her i was certainly
not<00:55:55.680><c> interested</c>

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not interested
 

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not interested
in<00:55:57.599><c> undertaking</c><00:55:58.400><c> a</c><00:55:58.559><c> complete</c><00:56:00.839><c> robot</c>

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in undertaking a complete robot
 

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in undertaking a complete robot
and<00:56:03.839><c> it</c><00:56:04.000><c> was</c><00:56:06.160><c> i</c><00:56:06.400><c> might</c><00:56:06.640><c> not</c><00:56:06.799><c> have</c><00:56:07.040><c> believed</c><00:56:07.440><c> it</c>

00:56:07.589 --> 00:56:07.599 align:start position:0%
and it was i might not have believed it
 

00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:09.829 align:start position:0%
and it was i might not have believed it
at<00:56:07.760><c> the</c><00:56:07.920><c> time</c><00:56:08.319><c> but</c><00:56:08.559><c> it</c><00:56:08.720><c> was</c>

00:56:09.829 --> 00:56:09.839 align:start position:0%
at the time but it was
 

00:56:09.839 --> 00:56:13.030 align:start position:0%
at the time but it was
turned<00:56:10.160><c> out</c><00:56:10.480><c> not</c><00:56:10.720><c> to</c><00:56:10.880><c> be</c><00:56:11.119><c> possible</c>

00:56:13.030 --> 00:56:13.040 align:start position:0%
turned out not to be possible
 

00:56:13.040 --> 00:56:16.230 align:start position:0%
turned out not to be possible
with<00:56:13.280><c> the</c><00:56:13.440><c> resources</c><00:56:14.240><c> that</c><00:56:14.480><c> we</c><00:56:14.839><c> had</c>

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with the resources that we had
 

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with the resources that we had
even<00:56:16.640><c> for</c><00:56:16.799><c> the</c><00:56:17.119><c> just</c><00:56:17.359><c> the</c><00:56:17.440><c> mechanical</c><00:56:18.160><c> part</c><00:56:18.400><c> of</c>

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even for the just the mechanical part of
 

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even for the just the mechanical part of
it

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what<00:56:23.599><c> was</c><00:56:24.000><c> possible</c>

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was<00:56:28.839><c> arms</c>

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was arms
 

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was arms
is<00:56:30.240><c> to</c><00:56:30.400><c> build</c><00:56:30.720><c> a</c><00:56:30.880><c> single</c><00:56:31.280><c> arm</c>

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is to build a single arm
 

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is to build a single arm
and<00:56:34.880><c> that</c><00:56:35.119><c> was</c><00:56:35.520><c> possible</c>

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and that was possible
 

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and that was possible
because<00:56:38.079><c> there</c><00:56:38.240><c> was</c><00:56:38.480><c> a</c><00:56:38.559><c> graduate</c><00:56:39.119><c> student</c><00:56:39.599><c> at</c>

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because there was a graduate student at
 

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because there was a graduate student at
stanford

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stanford
 

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stanford
victor<00:56:42.839><c> scheinman</c>

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victor scheinman
 

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victor scheinman
who<00:56:44.720><c> was</c><00:56:47.280><c> i</c><00:56:47.520><c> would</c><00:56:47.760><c> say</c><00:56:48.000><c> a</c><00:56:48.160><c> real</c><00:56:48.559><c> genius</c>

00:56:50.390 --> 00:56:50.400 align:start position:0%
who was i would say a real genius
 

00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:54.710 align:start position:0%
who was i would say a real genius
as<00:56:50.640><c> a</c><00:56:50.720><c> mechanical</c><00:56:51.359><c> engineer</c><00:56:52.000><c> and</c><00:56:52.400><c> designer</c>

00:56:54.710 --> 00:56:54.720 align:start position:0%
as a mechanical engineer and designer
 

00:56:54.720 --> 00:56:59.510 align:start position:0%
as a mechanical engineer and designer
and<00:56:54.960><c> he</c><00:56:55.200><c> designed</c><00:56:56.839><c> several</c>

00:56:59.510 --> 00:56:59.520 align:start position:0%
and he designed several
 

00:56:59.520 --> 00:57:02.710 align:start position:0%
and he designed several
mechanical<00:57:00.240><c> arms</c>

00:57:02.710 --> 00:57:02.720 align:start position:0%
mechanical arms
 

00:57:02.720 --> 00:57:05.510 align:start position:0%
mechanical arms
he<00:57:03.040><c> he</c><00:57:03.359><c> designed</c><00:57:03.920><c> one</c><00:57:04.720><c> the</c><00:57:04.880><c> first</c><00:57:05.200><c> one</c><00:57:05.359><c> he</c>

00:57:05.510 --> 00:57:05.520 align:start position:0%
he he designed one the first one he
 

00:57:05.520 --> 00:57:09.109 align:start position:0%
he he designed one the first one he
designed<00:57:06.000><c> was</c><00:57:06.160><c> a</c><00:57:06.319><c> hydraulic</c><00:57:07.040><c> arm</c>

00:57:09.109 --> 00:57:09.119 align:start position:0%
designed was a hydraulic arm
 

00:57:09.119 --> 00:57:13.910 align:start position:0%
designed was a hydraulic arm
and<00:57:11.760><c> it</c><00:57:12.000><c> had</c><00:57:12.240><c> i</c><00:57:12.400><c> remember</c><00:57:12.880><c> these</c>

00:57:13.910 --> 00:57:13.920 align:start position:0%
and it had i remember these
 

00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:16.069 align:start position:0%
and it had i remember these
plastics<00:57:14.720><c> tubes</c><00:57:15.200><c> that</c><00:57:15.359><c> had</c><00:57:15.599><c> the</c><00:57:15.760><c> high</c>

00:57:16.069 --> 00:57:16.079 align:start position:0%
plastics tubes that had the high
 

00:57:16.079 --> 00:57:17.190 align:start position:0%
plastics tubes that had the high
pressure<00:57:16.559><c> hydraulic</c>

00:57:17.190 --> 00:57:17.200 align:start position:0%
pressure hydraulic
 

00:57:17.200 --> 00:57:23.430 align:start position:0%
pressure hydraulic
fluid<00:57:17.599><c> in</c><00:57:17.760><c> them</c>

00:57:23.430 --> 00:57:23.440 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:57:23.440 --> 00:57:27.109 align:start position:0%
 
and<00:57:24.079><c> it</c><00:57:24.240><c> was</c><00:57:24.839><c> decided</c>

00:57:27.109 --> 00:57:27.119 align:start position:0%
and it was decided
 

00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:29.190 align:start position:0%
and it was decided
not<00:57:27.440><c> by</c><00:57:27.680><c> me</c><00:57:28.000><c> i</c><00:57:28.160><c> didn't</c><00:57:28.400><c> do</c><00:57:28.640><c> any</c><00:57:28.880><c> close</c>

00:57:29.190 --> 00:57:29.200 align:start position:0%
not by me i didn't do any close
 

00:57:29.200 --> 00:57:30.549 align:start position:0%
not by me i didn't do any close
supervision<00:57:30.000><c> of</c><00:57:30.079><c> that</c>

00:57:30.549 --> 00:57:30.559 align:start position:0%
supervision of that
 

00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:35.349 align:start position:0%
supervision of that
but<00:57:31.920><c> if</c><00:57:32.079><c> one</c><00:57:32.240><c> of</c><00:57:32.319><c> those</c><00:57:32.640><c> tubes</c><00:57:32.960><c> ever</c><00:57:33.280><c> broke</c>

00:57:35.349 --> 00:57:35.359 align:start position:0%
but if one of those tubes ever broke
 

00:57:35.359 --> 00:57:38.950 align:start position:0%
but if one of those tubes ever broke
that<00:57:35.599><c> arm</c><00:57:35.839><c> would</c><00:57:36.079><c> swing</c><00:57:38.160><c> and</c>

00:57:38.950 --> 00:57:38.960 align:start position:0%
that arm would swing and
 

00:57:38.960 --> 00:57:40.870 align:start position:0%
that arm would swing and
anybody<00:57:39.440><c> who's</c><00:57:39.760><c> in</c><00:57:40.000><c> the</c><00:57:40.079><c> way</c><00:57:40.319><c> would</c><00:57:40.559><c> really</c>

00:57:40.870 --> 00:57:40.880 align:start position:0%
anybody who's in the way would really
 

00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:42.789 align:start position:0%
anybody who's in the way would really
get<00:57:41.119><c> hurt</c>

00:57:42.789 --> 00:57:42.799 align:start position:0%
get hurt
 

00:57:42.799 --> 00:57:46.470 align:start position:0%
get hurt
so<00:57:43.119><c> it</c><00:57:43.280><c> was</c><00:57:44.240><c> put</c><00:57:44.559><c> into</c><00:57:44.960><c> a</c>

00:57:46.470 --> 00:57:46.480 align:start position:0%
so it was put into a
 

00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:50.630 align:start position:0%
so it was put into a
little<00:57:46.799><c> house</c><00:57:48.480><c> built</c><00:57:48.799><c> around</c><00:57:49.280><c> it</c>

00:57:50.630 --> 00:57:50.640 align:start position:0%
little house built around it
 

00:57:50.640 --> 00:57:56.309 align:start position:0%
little house built around it
but<00:57:50.880><c> it</c><00:57:50.960><c> was</c><00:57:51.200><c> never</c><00:57:52.839><c> used</c>

00:57:56.309 --> 00:57:56.319 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:57:56.319 --> 00:58:00.150 align:start position:0%
 
designed<00:57:56.880><c> some</c><00:57:57.200><c> much</c><00:57:58.799><c> smaller</c><00:57:59.359><c> and</c><00:57:59.520><c> weaker</c>

00:58:00.150 --> 00:58:00.160 align:start position:0%
designed some much smaller and weaker
 

00:58:00.160 --> 00:58:03.270 align:start position:0%
designed some much smaller and weaker
arms<00:58:02.559><c> that</c><00:58:02.799><c> were</c>

00:58:03.270 --> 00:58:03.280 align:start position:0%
arms that were
 

00:58:03.280 --> 00:58:06.549 align:start position:0%
arms that were
electrically<00:58:04.000><c> powered</c><00:58:04.559><c> and</c><00:58:05.920><c> those</c><00:58:06.240><c> were</c><00:58:06.400><c> the</c>

00:58:06.549 --> 00:58:06.559 align:start position:0%
electrically powered and those were the
 

00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:08.630 align:start position:0%
electrically powered and those were the
ones<00:58:06.880><c> that</c><00:58:07.040><c> were</c><00:58:07.280><c> used</c><00:58:07.680><c> by</c><00:58:07.839><c> the</c><00:58:08.079><c> stanford</c>

00:58:08.630 --> 00:58:08.640 align:start position:0%
ones that were used by the stanford
 

00:58:08.640 --> 00:58:11.589 align:start position:0%
ones that were used by the stanford
aisle

00:58:11.589 --> 00:58:11.599 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:58:11.599 --> 00:58:35.030 align:start position:0%
 
when<00:58:11.760><c> did</c><00:58:11.920><c> you</c><00:58:12.079><c> first</c><00:58:20.839><c> meet</c>

00:58:35.030 --> 00:58:35.040 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:58:35.040 --> 00:58:38.069 align:start position:0%
 
let's<00:58:35.359><c> see</c><00:58:35.599><c> i</c><00:58:35.760><c> came</c><00:58:36.000><c> to</c><00:58:36.160><c> stanford</c>

00:58:38.069 --> 00:58:38.079 align:start position:0%
let's see i came to stanford
 

00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:41.430 align:start position:0%
let's see i came to stanford
in<00:58:38.240><c> the</c><00:58:38.400><c> fall</c><00:58:38.640><c> of</c><00:58:38.799><c> 62.</c>

00:58:41.430 --> 00:58:41.440 align:start position:0%
in the fall of 62.
 

00:58:41.440 --> 00:58:44.789 align:start position:0%
in the fall of 62.
it<00:58:41.599><c> seems</c><00:58:42.000><c> to</c><00:58:42.160><c> me</c><00:58:42.400><c> the</c>

00:58:44.789 --> 00:58:44.799 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:58:44.799 --> 00:58:48.710 align:start position:0%
 
we<00:58:45.040><c> got</c><00:58:45.440><c> the</c><00:58:45.599><c> stanford</c><00:58:46.240><c> ai</c><00:58:46.720><c> lab</c><00:58:47.200><c> and</c><00:58:47.520><c> our</c>

00:58:48.710 --> 00:58:48.720 align:start position:0%
we got the stanford ai lab and our
 

00:58:48.720 --> 00:58:51.750 align:start position:0%
we got the stanford ai lab and our
big<00:58:49.119><c> increase</c><00:58:49.680><c> in</c><00:58:49.920><c> money</c><00:58:50.400><c> from</c>

00:58:51.750 --> 00:58:51.760 align:start position:0%
big increase in money from
 

00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:55.349 align:start position:0%
big increase in money from
darpa<00:58:53.119><c> that</c><00:58:53.359><c> enabled</c><00:58:53.760><c> us</c><00:58:53.920><c> to</c><00:58:54.079><c> buy</c><00:58:54.319><c> the</c><00:58:54.480><c> pdp6</c>

00:58:55.349 --> 00:58:55.359 align:start position:0%
darpa that enabled us to buy the pdp6
 

00:58:55.359 --> 00:58:56.710 align:start position:0%
darpa that enabled us to buy the pdp6
computer

00:58:56.710 --> 00:58:56.720 align:start position:0%
computer
 

00:58:56.720 --> 00:58:59.750 align:start position:0%
computer
was<00:58:57.079><c> 65</c>

00:58:59.750 --> 00:58:59.760 align:start position:0%
was 65
 

00:58:59.760 --> 00:59:03.990 align:start position:0%
was 65
and<00:59:02.839><c> um</c>

00:59:03.990 --> 00:59:04.000 align:start position:0%
and um
 

00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:08.309 align:start position:0%
and um
when<00:59:04.640><c> i</c><00:59:04.880><c> thought</c><00:59:05.119><c> we</c><00:59:05.359><c> needed</c><00:59:05.760><c> an</c><00:59:06.079><c> arm</c>

00:59:08.309 --> 00:59:08.319 align:start position:0%
when i thought we needed an arm
 

00:59:08.319 --> 00:59:11.589 align:start position:0%
when i thought we needed an arm
uh<00:59:08.640><c> my</c><00:59:08.960><c> my</c><00:59:09.200><c> first</c><00:59:09.599><c> idea</c><00:59:10.000><c> about</c><00:59:10.319><c> that</c>

00:59:11.589 --> 00:59:11.599 align:start position:0%
uh my my first idea about that
 

00:59:11.599 --> 00:59:14.630 align:start position:0%
uh my my first idea about that
was<00:59:11.839><c> i'd</c><00:59:12.160><c> read</c><00:59:12.400><c> about</c><00:59:12.799><c> these</c><00:59:13.520><c> remote</c><00:59:14.079><c> arms</c>

00:59:14.630 --> 00:59:14.640 align:start position:0%
was i'd read about these remote arms
 

00:59:14.640 --> 00:59:17.030 align:start position:0%
was i'd read about these remote arms
that<00:59:14.880><c> had</c><00:59:15.040><c> been</c><00:59:15.280><c> used</c><00:59:15.680><c> during</c>

00:59:17.030 --> 00:59:17.040 align:start position:0%
that had been used during
 

00:59:17.040 --> 00:59:20.789 align:start position:0%
that had been used during
world<00:59:17.359><c> war</c><00:59:17.680><c> ii</c><00:59:19.440><c> to</c><00:59:19.760><c> handle</c>

00:59:20.789 --> 00:59:20.799 align:start position:0%
world war ii to handle
 

00:59:20.799 --> 00:59:24.549 align:start position:0%
world war ii to handle
radioactive<00:59:21.520><c> material</c><00:59:23.599><c> and</c><00:59:23.760><c> i</c><00:59:23.920><c> said</c><00:59:24.079><c> ah</c><00:59:24.400><c> that</c>

00:59:24.549 --> 00:59:24.559 align:start position:0%
radioactive material and i said ah that
 

00:59:24.559 --> 00:59:25.109 align:start position:0%
radioactive material and i said ah that
must<00:59:24.799><c> have</c>

00:59:25.109 --> 00:59:25.119 align:start position:0%
must have
 

00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:28.549 align:start position:0%
must have
led<00:59:25.280><c> to</c><00:59:25.520><c> further</c><00:59:25.920><c> developments</c><00:59:28.079><c> and</c>

00:59:28.549 --> 00:59:28.559 align:start position:0%
led to further developments and
 

00:59:28.559 --> 00:59:32.309 align:start position:0%
led to further developments and
i<00:59:28.799><c> discovered</c><00:59:29.520><c> no</c><00:59:31.359><c> and</c><00:59:31.520><c> they've</c><00:59:31.760><c> simply</c><00:59:32.160><c> been</c>

00:59:32.309 --> 00:59:32.319 align:start position:0%
i discovered no and they've simply been
 

00:59:32.319 --> 00:59:36.230 align:start position:0%
i discovered no and they've simply been
abandoned<00:59:32.960><c> at</c><00:59:33.119><c> the</c><00:59:33.280><c> end</c><00:59:33.440><c> of</c><00:59:33.599><c> world</c><00:59:33.839><c> war</c><00:59:34.160><c> ii</c>

00:59:36.230 --> 00:59:36.240 align:start position:0%
abandoned at the end of world war ii
 

00:59:36.240 --> 00:59:40.710 align:start position:0%
abandoned at the end of world war ii
uh<00:59:39.200><c> so</c><00:59:39.359><c> that</c><00:59:39.520><c> we</c><00:59:39.680><c> were</c><00:59:39.839><c> gonna</c><00:59:40.000><c> have</c><00:59:40.160><c> to</c><00:59:40.319><c> design</c>

00:59:40.710 --> 00:59:40.720 align:start position:0%
uh so that we were gonna have to design
 

00:59:40.720 --> 00:59:46.549 align:start position:0%
uh so that we were gonna have to design
our<00:59:44.839><c> own</c>

00:59:46.549 --> 00:59:46.559 align:start position:0%
our own
 

00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:51.990 align:start position:0%
our own
okay

00:59:51.990 --> 00:59:52.000 align:start position:0%
 
 

00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:54.789 align:start position:0%
 
i<00:59:52.160><c> had</c><00:59:52.400><c> darpa</c><00:59:52.880><c> to</c><00:59:53.040><c> write</c><00:59:53.280><c> some</c><00:59:53.440><c> letters</c><00:59:53.839><c> saying</c>

00:59:54.789 --> 00:59:54.799 align:start position:0%
i had darpa to write some letters saying
 

00:59:54.799 --> 00:59:56.230 align:start position:0%
i had darpa to write some letters saying
really<00:59:55.040><c> wouldn't</c><00:59:55.280><c> be</c><00:59:55.440><c> a</c><00:59:55.520><c> good</c><00:59:55.760><c> idea</c><00:59:56.079><c> if</c>

00:59:56.230 --> 00:59:56.240 align:start position:0%
really wouldn't be a good idea if
 

00:59:56.240 --> 00:59:57.910 align:start position:0%
really wouldn't be a good idea if
someone<00:59:56.559><c> with</c><00:59:56.720><c> her</c><00:59:56.960><c> training</c><00:59:57.359><c> went</c><00:59:57.599><c> back</c><00:59:57.760><c> to</c>

00:59:57.910 --> 00:59:57.920 align:start position:0%
someone with her training went back to
 

00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:03.109 align:start position:0%
someone with her training went back to
czech<00:59:58.839><c> slovakia</c>

01:00:03.109 --> 01:00:03.119 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:00:03.119 --> 01:00:06.789 align:start position:0%
 
that<01:00:03.359><c> didn't</c><01:00:03.599><c> help</c><01:00:05.920><c> but</c>

01:00:06.789 --> 01:00:06.799 align:start position:0%
that didn't help but
 

01:00:06.799 --> 01:00:10.150 align:start position:0%
that didn't help but
it<01:00:06.960><c> didn't</c><01:00:07.280><c> what</c><01:00:07.520><c> did</c><01:00:07.760><c> help</c><01:00:08.079><c> was</c><01:00:08.319><c> that</c><01:00:08.559><c> hurt</c>

01:00:10.150 --> 01:00:10.160 align:start position:0%
it didn't what did help was that hurt
 

01:00:10.160 --> 01:00:12.829 align:start position:0%
it didn't what did help was that hurt
the<01:00:10.240><c> university</c><01:00:11.599><c> university</c><01:00:12.160><c> of</c>

01:00:12.829 --> 01:00:12.839 align:start position:0%
the university university of
 

01:00:12.839 --> 01:00:14.950 align:start position:0%
the university university of
pennsylvania<01:00:13.839><c> which</c><01:00:14.079><c> is</c><01:00:14.240><c> where</c><01:00:14.480><c> she</c><01:00:14.640><c> was</c>

01:00:14.950 --> 01:00:14.960 align:start position:0%
pennsylvania which is where she was
 

01:00:14.960 --> 01:00:17.990 align:start position:0%
pennsylvania which is where she was
after<01:00:15.280><c> she</c><01:00:15.440><c> got</c><01:00:15.680><c> her</c><01:00:15.839><c> stanford</c><01:00:16.319><c> phd</c>

01:00:17.990 --> 01:00:18.000 align:start position:0%
after she got her stanford phd
 

01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:21.510 align:start position:0%
after she got her stanford phd
got<01:00:18.240><c> a</c><01:00:18.720><c> congressman</c><01:00:19.440><c> to</c>

01:00:21.510 --> 01:00:21.520 align:start position:0%
got a congressman to
 

01:00:21.520 --> 01:00:25.270 align:start position:0%
got a congressman to
intervene<01:00:22.160><c> anyway</c>

01:00:25.270 --> 01:00:25.280 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:00:25.280 --> 01:00:26.789 align:start position:0%
 
well<01:00:25.520><c> if</c><01:00:25.680><c> you're</c><01:00:25.760><c> going</c><01:00:25.920><c> to</c><01:00:26.000><c> interview</c><01:00:26.559><c> her</c>

01:00:26.789 --> 01:00:26.799 align:start position:0%
well if you're going to interview her
 

01:00:26.799 --> 01:00:28.309 align:start position:0%
well if you're going to interview her
she<01:00:27.040><c> knows</c>

01:00:28.309 --> 01:00:28.319 align:start position:0%
she knows
 

01:00:28.319 --> 01:00:32.950 align:start position:0%
she knows
she<01:00:29.680><c> knows</c><01:00:30.000><c> her</c><01:00:30.240><c> story</c><01:00:30.640><c> more</c><01:00:30.880><c> correctly</c>

01:00:32.950 --> 01:00:32.960 align:start position:0%
she knows her story more correctly
 

01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:34.870 align:start position:0%
she knows her story more correctly
what<01:00:33.119><c> was</c><01:00:33.359><c> she</c><01:00:33.520><c> like</c><01:00:33.760><c> as</c><01:00:33.920><c> a</c><01:00:34.000><c> student</c><01:00:34.480><c> to</c><01:00:34.640><c> work</c>

01:00:34.870 --> 01:00:34.880 align:start position:0%
what was she like as a student to work
 

01:00:34.880 --> 01:00:38.950 align:start position:0%
what was she like as a student to work
with

01:00:38.950 --> 01:00:38.960 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:53.109 align:start position:0%
 
hard-working

01:00:53.109 --> 01:00:53.119 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:55.990 align:start position:0%
 
who<01:00:53.280><c> are</c><01:00:53.440><c> some</c><01:00:53.599><c> of</c><01:00:53.680><c> the</c><01:00:53.839><c> other</c><01:00:54.079><c> early</c><01:00:55.440><c> students</c>

01:00:55.990 --> 01:00:56.000 align:start position:0%
who are some of the other early students
 

01:00:56.000 --> 01:00:56.950 align:start position:0%
who are some of the other early students
that<01:00:56.240><c> were</c>

01:00:56.950 --> 01:00:56.960 align:start position:0%
that were
 

01:00:56.960 --> 01:01:22.829 align:start position:0%
that were
interested<01:00:57.359><c> in</c><01:01:08.839><c> robotics</c>

01:01:22.829 --> 01:01:22.839 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:01:22.839 --> 01:01:26.470 align:start position:0%
 
so

01:01:26.470 --> 01:01:26.480 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:01:26.480 --> 01:01:27.910 align:start position:0%
 
well<01:01:26.720><c> there</c><01:01:26.880><c> were</c><01:01:27.040><c> a</c><01:01:27.119><c> couple</c><01:01:27.359><c> of</c><01:01:27.599><c> other</c>

01:01:27.910 --> 01:01:27.920 align:start position:0%
well there were a couple of other
 

01:01:27.920 --> 01:01:31.030 align:start position:0%
well there were a couple of other
faculty<01:01:28.480><c> members</c>

01:01:31.030 --> 01:01:31.040 align:start position:0%
faculty members
 

01:01:31.040 --> 01:01:35.510 align:start position:0%
faculty members
who<01:01:31.280><c> did</c><01:01:31.599><c> it</c><01:01:32.640><c> younger</c><01:01:33.040><c> faculty</c><01:01:33.599><c> members</c>

01:01:35.510 --> 01:01:35.520 align:start position:0%
who did it younger faculty members
 

01:01:35.520 --> 01:01:38.950 align:start position:0%
who did it younger faculty members
one<01:01:35.760><c> of</c><01:01:35.839><c> them</c><01:01:36.000><c> was</c><01:01:36.839><c> roger</c>

01:01:38.950 --> 01:01:38.960 align:start position:0%
one of them was roger
 

01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:45.270 align:start position:0%
one of them was roger
are<01:01:39.119><c> you</c><01:01:39.280><c> interviewing</c><01:01:39.839><c> him</c>

01:01:45.270 --> 01:01:45.280 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:58.309 align:start position:0%
 
and<01:01:46.400><c> jerry</c><01:01:50.839><c> feldman</c>

01:01:58.309 --> 01:01:58.319 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:01:58.319 --> 01:02:01.750 align:start position:0%
 
he<01:01:58.640><c> invented</c><01:01:59.280><c> this</c><01:02:00.640><c> language</c><01:02:01.280><c> called</c>

01:02:01.750 --> 01:02:01.760 align:start position:0%
he invented this language called
 

01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:04.789 align:start position:0%
he invented this language called
sail<01:02:04.079><c> which</c>

01:02:04.789 --> 01:02:04.799 align:start position:0%
sail which
 

01:02:04.799 --> 01:02:08.309 align:start position:0%
sail which
in<01:02:05.039><c> his</c><01:02:06.240><c> original</c><01:02:06.960><c> naming</c>

01:02:08.309 --> 01:02:08.319 align:start position:0%
in his original naming
 

01:02:08.319 --> 01:02:11.510 align:start position:0%
in his original naming
stood<01:02:08.720><c> for</c><01:02:10.240><c> stanford</c><01:02:10.880><c> artificial</c>

01:02:11.510 --> 01:02:11.520 align:start position:0%
stood for stanford artificial
 

01:02:11.520 --> 01:02:14.230 align:start position:0%
stood for stanford artificial
intelligence<01:02:12.319><c> language</c>

01:02:14.230 --> 01:02:14.240 align:start position:0%
intelligence language
 

01:02:14.240 --> 01:02:17.270 align:start position:0%
intelligence language
and<01:02:14.799><c> uh</c><01:02:16.960><c> i</c>

01:02:17.270 --> 01:02:17.280 align:start position:0%
and uh i
 

01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:19.750 align:start position:0%
and uh i
objected<01:02:17.839><c> to</c><01:02:18.079><c> that</c><01:02:18.640><c> on</c><01:02:18.880><c> the</c><01:02:18.960><c> grounds</c><01:02:19.440><c> that</c>

01:02:19.750 --> 01:02:19.760 align:start position:0%
objected to that on the grounds that
 

01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:21.829 align:start position:0%
objected to that on the grounds that
lisp

01:02:21.829 --> 01:02:21.839 align:start position:0%
lisp
 

01:02:21.839 --> 01:02:24.950 align:start position:0%
lisp
was<01:02:22.240><c> senior</c><01:02:22.720><c> to</c><01:02:22.960><c> sail</c>

01:02:24.950 --> 01:02:24.960 align:start position:0%
was senior to sail
 

01:02:24.960 --> 01:02:28.549 align:start position:0%
was senior to sail
and<01:02:27.280><c> so</c><01:02:27.520><c> he</c><01:02:27.599><c> said</c><01:02:27.839><c> all</c><01:02:28.000><c> right</c>

01:02:28.549 --> 01:02:28.559 align:start position:0%
and so he said all right
 

01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:35.829 align:start position:0%
and so he said all right
he<01:02:28.720><c> just</c><01:02:28.960><c> stands</c><01:02:29.359><c> for</c><01:02:32.839><c> sale</c>

01:02:35.829 --> 01:02:35.839 align:start position:0%
he just stands for sale
 

01:02:35.839 --> 01:02:46.829 align:start position:0%
he just stands for sale
well<01:02:36.160><c> lisp</c><01:02:36.480><c> survives</c><01:02:37.039><c> and</c><01:02:37.280><c> sale</c><01:02:37.599><c> is</c><01:02:37.839><c> dead</c><01:02:38.240><c> so</c>

01:02:46.829 --> 01:02:46.839 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:02:46.839 --> 01:02:48.789 align:start position:0%
 
uh

01:02:48.789 --> 01:02:48.799 align:start position:0%
uh
 

01:02:48.799 --> 01:02:51.109 align:start position:0%
uh
now<01:02:49.200><c> i'm</c><01:02:49.440><c> trying</c><01:02:49.599><c> to</c><01:02:49.760><c> remember</c><01:02:50.240><c> the</c><01:02:50.559><c> student</c>

01:02:51.109 --> 01:02:51.119 align:start position:0%
now i'm trying to remember the student
 

01:02:51.119 --> 01:02:54.470 align:start position:0%
now i'm trying to remember the student
who<01:02:51.359><c> did</c><01:02:51.599><c> most</c><01:02:51.920><c> of</c><01:02:52.079><c> the</c><01:02:52.240><c> programming</c><01:02:52.960><c> of</c><01:02:53.119><c> the</c>

01:02:54.470 --> 01:02:54.480 align:start position:0%
who did most of the programming of the
 

01:02:54.480 --> 01:02:59.829 align:start position:0%
who did most of the programming of the
arm

01:02:59.829 --> 01:02:59.839 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:02:59.839 --> 01:03:02.549 align:start position:0%
 
he<01:03:00.079><c> was</c><01:03:00.319><c> an</c><01:03:00.559><c> electrical</c><01:03:01.200><c> engineering</c><01:03:02.000><c> student</c>

01:03:02.549 --> 01:03:02.559 align:start position:0%
he was an electrical engineering student
 

01:03:02.559 --> 01:03:05.270 align:start position:0%
he was an electrical engineering student
not<01:03:02.880><c> a</c><01:03:02.960><c> computer</c><01:03:03.440><c> science</c>

01:03:05.270 --> 01:03:05.280 align:start position:0%
not a computer science
 

01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:12.870 align:start position:0%
not a computer science
student

01:03:12.870 --> 01:03:12.880 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:18.390 align:start position:0%
 
now<01:03:13.119><c> from</c><01:03:13.359><c> a</c><01:03:13.440><c> robotics</c><01:03:14.079><c> point</c><01:03:14.319><c> of</c><01:03:14.839><c> view</c>

01:03:18.390 --> 01:03:18.400 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:03:18.400 --> 01:03:23.109 align:start position:0%
 
let's<01:03:18.720><c> see</c><01:03:19.119><c> there's</c>

01:03:23.109 --> 01:03:23.119 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:03:23.119 --> 01:03:25.670 align:start position:0%
 
from<01:03:23.359><c> a</c><01:03:23.440><c> robotics</c><01:03:24.000><c> point</c><01:03:24.240><c> of</c><01:03:24.319><c> view</c><01:03:25.119><c> a</c><01:03:25.359><c> key</c>

01:03:25.670 --> 01:03:25.680 align:start position:0%
from a robotics point of view a key
 

01:03:25.680 --> 01:03:27.190 align:start position:0%
from a robotics point of view a key
thing

01:03:27.190 --> 01:03:27.200 align:start position:0%
thing
 

01:03:27.200 --> 01:03:32.309 align:start position:0%
thing
is<01:03:27.359><c> that</c><01:03:27.599><c> there</c><01:03:27.760><c> were</c><01:03:28.000><c> a</c><01:03:28.160><c> number</c><01:03:28.839><c> of</c><01:03:30.000><c> phd</c><01:03:30.720><c> these</c>

01:03:32.309 --> 01:03:32.319 align:start position:0%
is that there were a number of phd these
 

01:03:32.319 --> 01:03:39.109 align:start position:0%
is that there were a number of phd these
that

01:03:39.109 --> 01:03:39.119 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:03:39.119 --> 01:03:41.029 align:start position:0%
 
were<01:03:39.359><c> associated</c><01:03:40.079><c> with</c><01:03:40.240><c> what</c><01:03:40.400><c> you</c><01:03:40.559><c> would</c><01:03:40.799><c> call</c>

01:03:41.029 --> 01:03:41.039 align:start position:0%
were associated with what you would call
 

01:03:41.039 --> 01:03:44.549 align:start position:0%
were associated with what you would call
today<01:03:42.000><c> components</c><01:03:42.880><c> of</c><01:03:43.039><c> a</c><01:03:43.119><c> robot</c>

01:03:44.549 --> 01:03:44.559 align:start position:0%
today components of a robot
 

01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:48.309 align:start position:0%
today components of a robot
rather<01:03:44.880><c> than</c><01:03:45.200><c> complete</c><01:03:45.680><c> robots</c>

01:03:48.309 --> 01:03:48.319 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:03:48.319 --> 01:03:56.069 align:start position:0%
 
so<01:03:50.160><c> there</c><01:03:50.480><c> was</c><01:03:50.960><c> um</c>

01:03:56.069 --> 01:03:56.079 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:03:56.079 --> 01:04:10.829 align:start position:0%
 
bruce<01:03:56.839><c> bromgaard</c>

01:04:10.829 --> 01:04:10.839 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:04:10.839 --> 01:04:17.029 align:start position:0%
 
oh

01:04:17.029 --> 01:04:17.039 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:04:17.039 --> 01:04:19.670 align:start position:0%
 
you<01:04:17.119><c> know</c><01:04:18.000><c> i</c><01:04:18.240><c> think</c><01:04:18.480><c> it</c><01:04:18.640><c> was</c><01:04:18.880><c> he</c><01:04:19.119><c> who</c><01:04:19.280><c> wrote</c><01:04:19.520><c> the</c>

01:04:19.670 --> 01:04:19.680 align:start position:0%
you know i think it was he who wrote the
 

01:04:19.680 --> 01:04:21.349 align:start position:0%
you know i think it was he who wrote the
one<01:04:19.920><c> about</c>

01:04:21.349 --> 01:04:21.359 align:start position:0%
one about
 

01:04:21.359 --> 01:04:25.510 align:start position:0%
one about
driving<01:04:21.760><c> the</c><01:04:22.000><c> cart</c><01:04:22.559><c> around</c><01:04:22.960><c> the</c><01:04:23.200><c> lab</c>

01:04:25.510 --> 01:04:25.520 align:start position:0%
driving the cart around the lab
 

01:04:25.520 --> 01:04:27.829 align:start position:0%
driving the cart around the lab
we<01:04:25.920><c> inherited</c><01:04:26.640><c> from</c><01:04:26.799><c> the</c><01:04:27.039><c> mechanical</c>

01:04:27.829 --> 01:04:27.839 align:start position:0%
we inherited from the mechanical
 

01:04:27.839 --> 01:04:30.230 align:start position:0%
we inherited from the mechanical
engineering<01:04:28.480><c> department</c>

01:04:30.230 --> 01:04:30.240 align:start position:0%
engineering department
 

01:04:30.240 --> 01:04:33.990 align:start position:0%
engineering department
a<01:04:30.480><c> cart</c><01:04:30.960><c> that</c><01:04:31.200><c> could</c><01:04:31.440><c> be</c><01:04:31.680><c> radio</c><01:04:32.240><c> controlled</c>

01:04:33.990 --> 01:04:34.000 align:start position:0%
a cart that could be radio controlled
 

01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:36.390 align:start position:0%
a cart that could be radio controlled
we<01:04:34.319><c> saw</c><01:04:34.480><c> movie</c><01:04:34.880><c> control</c><01:04:35.280><c> radio</c><01:04:35.760><c> controlled</c><01:04:36.240><c> it</c>

01:04:36.390 --> 01:04:36.400 align:start position:0%
we saw movie control radio controlled it
 

01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:38.549 align:start position:0%
we saw movie control radio controlled it
from<01:04:36.640><c> our</c><01:04:36.880><c> computer</c>

01:04:38.549 --> 01:04:38.559 align:start position:0%
from our computer
 

01:04:38.559 --> 01:04:41.670 align:start position:0%
from our computer
it<01:04:38.720><c> hadn't</c><01:04:38.960><c> been</c><01:04:39.200><c> first</c><01:04:39.680><c> been</c><01:04:39.920><c> built</c>

01:04:41.670 --> 01:04:41.680 align:start position:0%
it hadn't been first been built
 

01:04:41.680 --> 01:04:45.029 align:start position:0%
it hadn't been first been built
as<01:04:42.559><c> um</c>

01:04:45.029 --> 01:04:45.039 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:04:45.039 --> 01:04:47.829 align:start position:0%
 
a<01:04:45.280><c> prototype</c><01:04:46.240><c> of</c><01:04:46.480><c> a</c><01:04:46.720><c> cart</c><01:04:47.119><c> that</c><01:04:47.440><c> could</c><01:04:47.680><c> be</c>

01:04:47.829 --> 01:04:47.839 align:start position:0%
a prototype of a cart that could be
 

01:04:47.839 --> 01:04:50.309 align:start position:0%
a prototype of a cart that could be
driven<01:04:48.240><c> on</c><01:04:48.400><c> the</c><01:04:48.480><c> moon</c>

01:04:50.309 --> 01:04:50.319 align:start position:0%
driven on the moon
 

01:04:50.319 --> 01:04:53.349 align:start position:0%
driven on the moon
with<01:04:50.640><c> a</c><01:04:50.799><c> two</c><01:04:51.039><c> and</c><01:04:51.200><c> a</c><01:04:51.200><c> half</c>

01:04:53.349 --> 01:04:53.359 align:start position:0%
with a two and a half
 

01:04:53.359 --> 01:04:58.150 align:start position:0%
with a two and a half
second<01:04:53.839><c> delay</c>

01:04:58.150 --> 01:04:58.160 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:04:58.160 --> 01:04:59.829 align:start position:0%
 
so<01:04:58.400><c> it</c><01:04:58.640><c> might</c><01:04:58.880><c> have</c><01:04:58.960><c> been</c><01:04:59.200><c> an</c><01:04:59.359><c> ancient</c>

01:04:59.829 --> 01:04:59.839 align:start position:0%
so it might have been an ancient
 

01:04:59.839 --> 01:05:02.470 align:start position:0%
so it might have been an ancient
prototype

01:05:02.470 --> 01:05:02.480 align:start position:0%
prototype
 

01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:04.789 align:start position:0%
prototype
the<01:05:02.640><c> vehicle</c><01:05:03.039><c> that</c><01:05:03.200><c> was</c><01:05:03.520><c> driven</c><01:05:03.920><c> on</c><01:05:04.000><c> the</c><01:05:04.160><c> moon</c>

01:05:04.789 --> 01:05:04.799 align:start position:0%
the vehicle that was driven on the moon
 

01:05:04.799 --> 01:05:07.670 align:start position:0%
the vehicle that was driven on the moon
sometimes<01:05:05.440><c> but</c><01:05:05.680><c> two</c><01:05:05.839><c> and</c><01:05:06.000><c> a</c><01:05:06.000><c> half</c>

01:05:07.670 --> 01:05:07.680 align:start position:0%
sometimes but two and a half
 

01:05:07.680 --> 01:05:15.109 align:start position:0%
sometimes but two and a half
second<01:05:08.000><c> delay</c>

01:05:15.109 --> 01:05:15.119 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:20.549 align:start position:0%
 
so<01:05:15.359><c> i'm</c><01:05:15.760><c> thinking</c>

01:05:20.549 --> 01:05:20.559 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:05:20.559 --> 01:05:23.990 align:start position:0%
 
i<01:05:20.720><c> think</c><01:05:20.960><c> it</c><01:05:21.119><c> was</c><01:05:21.440><c> baumgardt</c><01:05:22.079><c> who</c><01:05:22.240><c> did</c><01:05:22.480><c> that</c>

01:05:23.990 --> 01:05:24.000 align:start position:0%
i think it was baumgardt who did that
 

01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:27.750 align:start position:0%
i think it was baumgardt who did that
but<01:05:24.240><c> maybe</c><01:05:24.480><c> he</c><01:05:24.640><c> did</c><01:05:24.880><c> something</c><01:05:25.280><c> else</c>

01:05:27.750 --> 01:05:27.760 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:05:27.760 --> 01:05:30.789 align:start position:0%
 
and

01:05:30.789 --> 01:05:30.799 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:05:30.799 --> 01:05:34.829 align:start position:0%
 
there's<01:05:31.119><c> a</c><01:05:31.280><c> guy</c><01:05:31.520><c> who</c><01:05:31.680><c> did</c><01:05:31.839><c> a</c><01:05:32.000><c> thesis</c><01:05:32.480><c> on</c><01:05:32.799><c> face</c>

01:05:34.829 --> 01:05:34.839 align:start position:0%
there's a guy who did a thesis on face
 

01:05:34.839 --> 01:05:45.589 align:start position:0%
there's a guy who did a thesis on face
recognition

01:05:45.589 --> 01:05:45.599 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:05:45.599 --> 01:05:50.230 align:start position:0%
 
who<01:05:45.839><c> else</c><01:05:46.160><c> are</c><01:05:46.240><c> you</c><01:05:46.319><c> going</c><01:05:46.480><c> to</c><01:05:48.839><c> interview</c>

01:05:50.230 --> 01:05:50.240 align:start position:0%
who else are you going to interview
 

01:05:50.240 --> 01:05:53.430 align:start position:0%
who else are you going to interview
well<01:05:50.559><c> somewhat</c><01:05:51.039><c> later</c><01:05:51.520><c> students</c><01:05:52.640><c> were</c><01:05:53.200><c> on</c>

01:05:53.430 --> 01:05:53.440 align:start position:0%
well somewhat later students were on
 

01:05:53.440 --> 01:05:54.789 align:start position:0%
well somewhat later students were on
some<01:05:53.599><c> more</c><01:05:53.839><c> about</c>

01:05:54.789 --> 01:05:54.799 align:start position:0%
some more about
 

01:05:54.799 --> 01:05:59.910 align:start position:0%
some more about
rodney<01:05:55.200><c> brooks</c><01:05:57.599><c> we've</c><01:05:57.920><c> talked</c><01:05:58.240><c> to</c>

01:05:59.910 --> 01:05:59.920 align:start position:0%
rodney brooks we've talked to
 

01:05:59.920 --> 01:06:02.829 align:start position:0%
rodney brooks we've talked to
several<01:06:00.799><c> several</c><01:06:01.200><c> people</c><01:06:01.440><c> at</c><01:06:01.599><c> stanford</c>

01:06:02.829 --> 01:06:02.839 align:start position:0%
several several people at stanford
 

01:06:02.839 --> 01:06:04.630 align:start position:0%
several several people at stanford
bernie

01:06:04.630 --> 01:06:04.640 align:start position:0%
bernie
 

01:06:04.640 --> 01:06:09.750 align:start position:0%
bernie
ken<01:06:04.880><c> salisbury</c>

01:06:09.750 --> 01:06:09.760 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:19.109 align:start position:0%
 
no<01:06:10.000><c> i</c><01:06:10.079><c> was</c><01:06:10.319><c> thinking</c><01:06:16.839><c> ah</c>

01:06:19.109 --> 01:06:19.119 align:start position:0%
no i was thinking ah
 

01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:23.349 align:start position:0%
no i was thinking ah
of<01:06:19.359><c> those</c><01:06:19.760><c> people</c><01:06:20.079><c> the</c><01:06:20.240><c> one</c><01:06:20.480><c> whom</c><01:06:20.880><c> i'm</c><01:06:21.680><c> sure</c>

01:06:23.349 --> 01:06:23.359 align:start position:0%
of those people the one whom i'm sure
 

01:06:23.359 --> 01:06:25.589 align:start position:0%
of those people the one whom i'm sure
would<01:06:23.680><c> know</c><01:06:23.839><c> what</c><01:06:24.079><c> everybody</c><01:06:24.720><c> did</c><01:06:25.039><c> is</c><01:06:25.200><c> palm</c>

01:06:25.589 --> 01:06:25.599 align:start position:0%
would know what everybody did is palm
 

01:06:25.599 --> 01:06:30.829 align:start position:0%
would know what everybody did is palm
garden

01:06:30.829 --> 01:06:30.839 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:06:30.839 --> 01:06:35.270 align:start position:0%
 
um

01:06:35.270 --> 01:06:35.280 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:06:35.280 --> 01:06:41.829 align:start position:0%
 
no

01:06:41.829 --> 01:06:41.839 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:06:41.839 --> 01:06:45.029 align:start position:0%
 
if<01:06:42.000><c> i</c><01:06:42.079><c> were</c><01:06:42.319><c> so</c><01:06:42.480><c> to</c><01:06:42.640><c> speak</c><01:06:42.960><c> a</c><01:06:43.119><c> normal</c><01:06:43.520><c> professor</c>

01:06:45.029 --> 01:06:45.039 align:start position:0%
if i were so to speak a normal professor
 

01:06:45.039 --> 01:06:48.069 align:start position:0%
if i were so to speak a normal professor
and<01:06:45.280><c> had</c><01:06:45.760><c> lost</c><01:06:46.160><c> big</c><01:06:47.200><c> amounts</c><01:06:47.599><c> of</c><01:06:47.760><c> money</c>

01:06:48.069 --> 01:06:48.079 align:start position:0%
and had lost big amounts of money
 

01:06:48.079 --> 01:06:48.549 align:start position:0%
and had lost big amounts of money
through

01:06:48.549 --> 01:06:48.559 align:start position:0%
through
 

01:06:48.559 --> 01:06:52.870 align:start position:0%
through
memory<01:06:49.039><c> through</c><01:06:49.680><c> going</c><01:06:51.119><c> getting</c><01:06:51.440><c> old</c>

01:06:52.870 --> 01:06:52.880 align:start position:0%
memory through going getting old
 

01:06:52.880 --> 01:06:55.109 align:start position:0%
memory through going getting old
i'd<01:06:53.200><c> remember</c><01:06:53.760><c> all</c><01:06:54.000><c> those</c><01:06:54.319><c> names</c><01:06:54.720><c> and</c><01:06:54.799><c> maybe</c>

01:06:55.109 --> 01:06:55.119 align:start position:0%
i'd remember all those names and maybe
 

01:06:55.119 --> 01:06:58.470 align:start position:0%
i'd remember all those names and maybe
i'll<01:06:55.359><c> remember</c><01:06:55.760><c> them</c><01:06:56.000><c> tomorrow</c><01:06:56.640><c> but</c>

01:06:58.470 --> 01:06:58.480 align:start position:0%
i'll remember them tomorrow but
 

01:06:58.480 --> 01:07:00.390 align:start position:0%
i'll remember them tomorrow but
well<01:06:58.799><c> the</c><01:06:58.960><c> names</c><01:06:59.280><c> i</c><01:06:59.440><c> remember</c><01:06:59.920><c> most</c><01:07:00.160><c> of</c><01:07:00.319><c> the</c>

01:07:00.390 --> 01:07:00.400 align:start position:0%
well the names i remember most of the
 

01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:02.390 align:start position:0%
well the names i remember most of the
names<01:07:00.799><c> i</c><01:07:00.960><c> remember</c><01:07:01.359><c> but</c>

01:07:02.390 --> 01:07:02.400 align:start position:0%
names i remember but
 

01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:05.589 align:start position:0%
names i remember but
who<01:07:02.640><c> did</c><01:07:02.880><c> which</c><01:07:03.200><c> thesis</c><01:07:04.880><c> all</c><01:07:05.039><c> right</c>

01:07:05.589 --> 01:07:05.599 align:start position:0%
who did which thesis all right
 

01:07:05.599 --> 01:07:08.870 align:start position:0%
who did which thesis all right
so<01:07:05.760><c> the</c><01:07:06.240><c> topics</c>

01:07:08.870 --> 01:07:08.880 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:07:08.880 --> 01:07:12.870 align:start position:0%
 
the<01:07:09.200><c> cart</c><01:07:10.960><c> now</c><01:07:11.280><c> the</c><01:07:11.520><c> question</c><01:07:11.920><c> is</c><01:07:12.079><c> who</c><01:07:12.400><c> did</c><01:07:12.640><c> the</c>

01:07:12.870 --> 01:07:12.880 align:start position:0%
the cart now the question is who did the
 

01:07:12.880 --> 01:07:13.589 align:start position:0%
the cart now the question is who did the
actual

01:07:13.589 --> 01:07:13.599 align:start position:0%
actual
 

01:07:13.599 --> 01:07:19.750 align:start position:0%
actual
programs<01:07:15.599><c> in</c><01:07:15.839><c> which</c><01:07:16.240><c> the</c>

01:07:19.750 --> 01:07:19.760 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:27.510 align:start position:0%
 
all<01:07:20.000><c> right</c><01:07:20.319><c> there</c><01:07:20.559><c> was</c><01:07:20.799><c> the</c><01:07:22.000><c> block</c><01:07:22.400><c> stacking</c>

01:07:27.510 --> 01:07:27.520 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:07:27.520 --> 01:07:31.829 align:start position:0%
 
program

01:07:31.829 --> 01:07:31.839 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:07:31.839 --> 01:07:37.510 align:start position:0%
 
so<01:07:32.160><c> somebody</c><01:07:32.640><c> did</c><01:07:32.880><c> that</c><01:07:33.200><c> one</c>

01:07:37.510 --> 01:07:37.520 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:07:37.520 --> 01:07:45.029 align:start position:0%
 
it<01:07:40.839><c> was</c>

01:07:45.029 --> 01:07:45.039 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:07:45.039 --> 01:07:48.230 align:start position:0%
 
then<01:07:45.280><c> there</c><01:07:45.520><c> was</c><01:07:45.839><c> the</c><01:07:47.200><c> assembly</c>

01:07:48.230 --> 01:07:48.240 align:start position:0%
then there was the assembly
 

01:07:48.240 --> 01:07:53.029 align:start position:0%
then there was the assembly
of<01:07:50.319><c> uh</c>

01:07:53.029 --> 01:07:53.039 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:07:53.039 --> 01:08:00.630 align:start position:0%
 
an<01:07:53.359><c> automobile</c><01:07:54.240><c> wallet</c><01:07:54.799><c> water</c><01:07:55.200><c> pump</c>

01:08:00.630 --> 01:08:00.640 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:08:00.640 --> 01:08:02.630 align:start position:0%
 
that<01:08:00.880><c> was</c><01:08:01.119><c> somebody's</c><01:08:01.680><c> thesis</c><01:08:02.160><c> bomb</c><01:08:02.400><c> guard</c>

01:08:02.630 --> 01:08:02.640 align:start position:0%
that was somebody's thesis bomb guard
 

01:08:02.640 --> 01:08:22.829 align:start position:0%
that was somebody's thesis bomb guard
wouldn't<01:08:02.880><c> know</c><01:08:08.839><c> that</c>

01:08:22.829 --> 01:08:22.839 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:08:22.839 --> 01:08:28.149 align:start position:0%
 
so

01:08:28.149 --> 01:08:28.159 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:29.590 align:start position:0%
 
and<01:08:28.319><c> then</c><01:08:28.560><c> there</c><01:08:28.719><c> was</c><01:08:28.880><c> some</c><01:08:29.199><c> speech</c>

01:08:29.590 --> 01:08:29.600 align:start position:0%
and then there was some speech
 

01:08:29.600 --> 01:08:33.990 align:start position:0%
and then there was some speech
recognition

01:08:33.990 --> 01:08:34.000 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:37.110 align:start position:0%
 
that<01:08:34.319><c> ready</c><01:08:34.880><c> supervised</c>

01:08:37.110 --> 01:08:37.120 align:start position:0%
that ready supervised
 

01:08:37.120 --> 01:08:39.430 align:start position:0%
that ready supervised
reddy's<01:08:37.600><c> earth</c><01:08:38.159><c> thesis</c><01:08:38.719><c> that</c><01:08:38.880><c> he</c><01:08:39.040><c> had</c><01:08:39.120><c> done</c><01:08:39.359><c> on</c>

01:08:39.430 --> 01:08:39.440 align:start position:0%
reddy's earth thesis that he had done on
 

01:08:39.440 --> 01:09:18.829 align:start position:0%
reddy's earth thesis that he had done on
the<01:08:39.600><c> pdp-1</c><01:08:40.400><c> was</c><01:08:40.640><c> speech</c><01:08:50.839><c> recognition</c>

01:09:18.829 --> 01:09:18.839 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:09:18.839 --> 01:09:21.829 align:start position:0%
 
so<01:09:19.920><c> we</c><01:09:20.080><c> never</c><01:09:20.400><c> made</c><01:09:20.640><c> a</c><01:09:20.719><c> complete</c><01:09:21.120><c> robot</c>

01:09:21.829 --> 01:09:21.839 align:start position:0%
so we never made a complete robot
 

01:09:21.839 --> 01:09:25.669 align:start position:0%
so we never made a complete robot
that<01:09:22.080><c> is</c><01:09:23.359><c> we</c><01:09:23.600><c> could</c><01:09:23.920><c> have</c><01:09:24.239><c> in</c><01:09:24.400><c> principle</c>

01:09:25.669 --> 01:09:25.679 align:start position:0%
that is we could have in principle
 

01:09:25.679 --> 01:09:29.189 align:start position:0%
that is we could have in principle
have<01:09:25.920><c> put</c><01:09:26.080><c> the</c><01:09:26.400><c> arm</c><01:09:26.719><c> on</c><01:09:26.880><c> the</c><01:09:27.040><c> cart</c><01:09:28.560><c> and</c><01:09:28.960><c> so</c>

01:09:29.189 --> 01:09:29.199 align:start position:0%
have put the arm on the cart and so
 

01:09:29.199 --> 01:09:30.789 align:start position:0%
have put the arm on the cart and so
forth

01:09:30.789 --> 01:09:30.799 align:start position:0%
forth
 

01:09:30.799 --> 01:09:33.110 align:start position:0%
forth
but<01:09:31.440><c> remember</c><01:09:31.920><c> that</c><01:09:32.159><c> all</c><01:09:32.400><c> of</c><01:09:32.480><c> these</c><01:09:32.799><c> things</c>

01:09:33.110 --> 01:09:33.120 align:start position:0%
but remember that all of these things
 

01:09:33.120 --> 01:09:34.550 align:start position:0%
but remember that all of these things
were<01:09:33.359><c> done</c>

01:09:34.550 --> 01:09:34.560 align:start position:0%
were done
 

01:09:34.560 --> 01:09:38.630 align:start position:0%
were done
on<01:09:34.799><c> a</c><01:09:34.880><c> pdp-6</c><01:09:35.839><c> computer</c><01:09:37.520><c> in</c><01:09:37.679><c> a</c><01:09:37.839><c> time</c><01:09:38.159><c> sharing</c>

01:09:38.630 --> 01:09:38.640 align:start position:0%
on a pdp-6 computer in a time sharing
 

01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:40.550 align:start position:0%
on a pdp-6 computer in a time sharing
mode

01:09:40.550 --> 01:09:40.560 align:start position:0%
mode
 

01:09:40.560 --> 01:09:45.030 align:start position:0%
mode
on<01:09:43.040><c> well</c><01:09:43.199><c> it</c><01:09:43.279><c> was</c><01:09:43.520><c> possible</c>

01:09:45.030 --> 01:09:45.040 align:start position:0%
on well it was possible
 

01:09:45.040 --> 01:09:49.669 align:start position:0%
on well it was possible
to<01:09:45.279><c> sign</c><01:09:45.600><c> up</c><01:09:45.759><c> for</c><01:09:46.839><c> time</c>

01:09:49.669 --> 01:09:49.679 align:start position:0%
to sign up for time
 

01:09:49.679 --> 01:09:54.550 align:start position:0%
to sign up for time
for<01:09:52.159><c> uh</c>

01:09:54.550 --> 01:09:54.560 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:09:54.560 --> 01:09:57.990 align:start position:0%
 
we<01:09:54.880><c> small</c><01:09:55.199><c> hours</c><01:09:55.600><c> in</c><01:09:55.760><c> the</c><01:09:55.840><c> morning</c><01:09:57.520><c> in</c><01:09:57.760><c> which</c>

01:09:57.990 --> 01:09:58.000 align:start position:0%
we small hours in the morning in which
 

01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:00.310 align:start position:0%
we small hours in the morning in which
you<01:09:58.159><c> would</c>

01:10:00.310 --> 01:10:00.320 align:start position:0%
you would
 

01:10:00.320 --> 01:10:04.790 align:start position:0%
you would
get<01:10:00.840><c> uh</c>

01:10:04.790 --> 01:10:04.800 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:10:04.800 --> 01:10:07.189 align:start position:0%
 
oh<01:10:05.120><c> it</c><01:10:05.280><c> was</c><01:10:05.440><c> a</c><01:10:05.520><c> complicated</c><01:10:06.320><c> sign</c><01:10:06.640><c> up</c><01:10:06.800><c> in</c><01:10:06.960><c> which</c>

01:10:07.189 --> 01:10:07.199 align:start position:0%
oh it was a complicated sign up in which
 

01:10:07.199 --> 01:10:08.630 align:start position:0%
oh it was a complicated sign up in which
you<01:10:07.360><c> would</c>

01:10:08.630 --> 01:10:08.640 align:start position:0%
you would
 

01:10:08.640 --> 01:10:19.510 align:start position:0%
you would
sign<01:10:08.960><c> up</c><01:10:09.199><c> for</c><01:10:09.440><c> lambs</c><01:10:09.920><c> and</c><01:10:14.840><c> bams</c>

01:10:19.510 --> 01:10:19.520 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:10:19.520 --> 01:10:21.990 align:start position:0%
 
i<01:10:20.080><c> don't</c><01:10:20.320><c> think</c><01:10:20.560><c> i</c><01:10:20.800><c> remember</c><01:10:21.280><c> that</c><01:10:21.600><c> because</c><01:10:21.840><c> i</c>

01:10:21.990 --> 01:10:22.000 align:start position:0%
i don't think i remember that because i
 

01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:24.229 align:start position:0%
i don't think i remember that because i
never

01:10:24.229 --> 01:10:24.239 align:start position:0%
never
 

01:10:24.239 --> 01:10:26.950 align:start position:0%
never
i<01:10:24.480><c> never</c><01:10:24.880><c> bothered</c><01:10:25.280><c> with</c><01:10:25.520><c> it</c><01:10:25.679><c> because</c><01:10:26.159><c> my</c><01:10:26.480><c> own</c>

01:10:26.950 --> 01:10:26.960 align:start position:0%
i never bothered with it because my own
 

01:10:26.960 --> 01:10:28.790 align:start position:0%
i never bothered with it because my own
use<01:10:27.280><c> of</c><01:10:27.440><c> the</c><01:10:27.600><c> computer</c><01:10:28.159><c> did</c><01:10:28.400><c> not</c>

01:10:28.790 --> 01:10:28.800 align:start position:0%
use of the computer did not
 

01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:32.550 align:start position:0%
use of the computer did not
was<01:10:29.040><c> not</c><01:10:30.880><c> cpu</c><01:10:31.440><c> intensive</c><01:10:32.239><c> i</c>

01:10:32.550 --> 01:10:32.560 align:start position:0%
was not cpu intensive i
 

01:10:32.560 --> 01:10:35.510 align:start position:0%
was not cpu intensive i
never<01:10:32.880><c> did</c><01:10:33.120><c> used</c><01:10:33.360><c> it</c><01:10:33.520><c> for</c><01:10:33.760><c> anything</c><01:10:34.159><c> but</c>

01:10:35.510 --> 01:10:35.520 align:start position:0%
never did used it for anything but
 

01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:38.390 align:start position:0%
never did used it for anything but
typewriter

01:10:38.390 --> 01:10:38.400 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:10:38.400 --> 01:10:42.310 align:start position:0%
 
for<01:10:38.640><c> writing</c><01:10:38.960><c> papers</c>

01:10:42.310 --> 01:10:42.320 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:10:42.320 --> 01:10:45.030 align:start position:0%
 
what<01:10:42.480><c> would</c><01:10:42.640><c> you</c><01:10:42.800><c> say</c><01:10:43.040><c> was</c><01:10:43.280><c> the</c><01:10:43.600><c> relationship</c>

01:10:45.030 --> 01:10:45.040 align:start position:0%
what would you say was the relationship
 

01:10:45.040 --> 01:10:45.590 align:start position:0%
what would you say was the relationship
between

01:10:45.590 --> 01:10:45.600 align:start position:0%
between
 

01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:48.870 align:start position:0%
between
artificial<01:10:46.159><c> intelligence</c><01:10:46.880><c> and</c><01:10:47.040><c> robotics</c>

01:10:48.870 --> 01:10:48.880 align:start position:0%
artificial intelligence and robotics
 

01:10:48.880 --> 01:10:52.229 align:start position:0%
artificial intelligence and robotics
particularly<01:10:49.520><c> at</c><01:10:49.679><c> stanford</c>

01:10:52.229 --> 01:10:52.239 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:10:52.239 --> 01:10:55.990 align:start position:0%
 
well

01:10:55.990 --> 01:10:56.000 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:10:56.000 --> 01:11:00.229 align:start position:0%
 
as<01:10:56.239><c> i</c><01:10:56.840><c> say</c><01:10:58.480><c> my</c><01:10:58.640><c> motivation</c><01:10:59.360><c> for</c><01:10:59.600><c> starting</c><01:11:00.080><c> the</c>

01:11:00.229 --> 01:11:00.239 align:start position:0%
as i say my motivation for starting the
 

01:11:00.239 --> 01:11:02.950 align:start position:0%
as i say my motivation for starting the
robotics

01:11:02.950 --> 01:11:02.960 align:start position:0%
robotics
 

01:11:02.960 --> 01:11:08.070 align:start position:0%
robotics
was<01:11:05.920><c> uh</c>

01:11:08.070 --> 01:11:08.080 align:start position:0%
was uh
 

01:11:08.080 --> 01:11:12.070 align:start position:0%
was uh
having<01:11:08.480><c> this</c><01:11:08.719><c> slogan</c><01:11:09.360><c> about</c><01:11:10.840><c> concepts</c><01:11:11.840><c> which</c>

01:11:12.070 --> 01:11:12.080 align:start position:0%
having this slogan about concepts which
 

01:11:12.080 --> 01:11:12.310 align:start position:0%
having this slogan about concepts which
is

01:11:12.310 --> 01:11:12.320 align:start position:0%
is
 

01:11:12.320 --> 01:11:15.510 align:start position:0%
is
after<01:11:12.560><c> all</c><01:11:12.719><c> an</c><01:11:12.880><c> ai</c><01:11:13.440><c> idea</c>

01:11:15.510 --> 01:11:15.520 align:start position:0%
after all an ai idea
 

01:11:15.520 --> 01:11:21.350 align:start position:0%
after all an ai idea
uh<01:11:18.320><c> but</c>

01:11:21.350 --> 01:11:21.360 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:11:21.360 --> 01:11:24.070 align:start position:0%
 
i<01:11:21.600><c> never</c><01:11:21.920><c> even</c><01:11:22.239><c> met</c><01:11:22.560><c> bruner</c><01:11:23.280><c> so</c><01:11:23.520><c> i</c><01:11:23.600><c> didn't</c><01:11:23.920><c> get</c>

01:11:24.070 --> 01:11:24.080 align:start position:0%
i never even met bruner so i didn't get
 

01:11:24.080 --> 01:11:26.709 align:start position:0%
i never even met bruner so i didn't get
into<01:11:24.400><c> an</c><01:11:24.560><c> argument</c><01:11:25.040><c> with</c><01:11:25.199><c> him</c>

01:11:26.709 --> 01:11:26.719 align:start position:0%
into an argument with him
 

01:11:26.719 --> 01:11:30.149 align:start position:0%
into an argument with him
i<01:11:26.960><c> should</c><01:11:27.199><c> have</c><01:11:29.199><c> and</c><01:11:29.360><c> he</c><01:11:29.520><c> was</c><01:11:29.679><c> there</c><01:11:30.000><c> at</c>

01:11:30.149 --> 01:11:30.159 align:start position:0%
i should have and he was there at
 

01:11:30.159 --> 01:11:32.229 align:start position:0%
i should have and he was there at
harvard<01:11:30.640><c> when</c><01:11:30.800><c> i</c><01:11:30.880><c> was</c><01:11:31.120><c> at</c><01:11:31.280><c> mit</c>

01:11:32.229 --> 01:11:32.239 align:start position:0%
harvard when i was at mit
 

01:11:32.239 --> 01:11:39.990 align:start position:0%
harvard when i was at mit
i<01:11:32.400><c> didn't</c><01:11:32.719><c> do</c><01:11:32.880><c> it</c><01:11:38.840><c> uh</c>

01:11:39.990 --> 01:11:40.000 align:start position:0%
i didn't do it uh
 

01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:44.390 align:start position:0%
i didn't do it uh
though<01:11:42.159><c> i</c><01:11:42.400><c> suspect</c><01:11:43.040><c> the</c>

01:11:44.390 --> 01:11:44.400 align:start position:0%
though i suspect the
 

01:11:44.400 --> 01:11:46.550 align:start position:0%
though i suspect the
i<01:11:44.560><c> didn't</c><01:11:44.719><c> write</c><01:11:44.960><c> a</c><01:11:45.120><c> paper</c><01:11:45.520><c> about</c><01:11:45.840><c> that</c><01:11:46.159><c> but</c><01:11:46.320><c> i</c>

01:11:46.550 --> 01:11:46.560 align:start position:0%
i didn't write a paper about that but i
 

01:11:46.560 --> 01:11:48.709 align:start position:0%
i didn't write a paper about that but i
suspect<01:11:47.120><c> that</c><01:11:47.440><c> the</c>

01:11:48.709 --> 01:11:48.719 align:start position:0%
suspect that the
 

01:11:48.719 --> 01:11:52.149 align:start position:0%
suspect that the
point<01:11:49.120><c> was</c><01:11:49.440><c> in</c><01:11:49.679><c> my</c><01:11:51.280><c> proposal</c>

01:11:52.149 --> 01:11:52.159 align:start position:0%
point was in my proposal
 

01:11:52.159 --> 01:11:57.830 align:start position:0%
point was in my proposal
to<01:11:52.840><c> darpa</c><01:11:54.560><c> that</c><01:11:54.800><c> got</c><01:11:55.120><c> us</c><01:11:55.360><c> the</c>

01:11:57.830 --> 01:11:57.840 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:11:57.840 --> 01:12:01.669 align:start position:0%
 
large<01:11:58.159><c> sum</c><01:11:58.480><c> of</c><01:11:58.640><c> money</c><01:11:59.040><c> that</c><01:11:59.280><c> permitted</c><01:11:59.920><c> me</c><01:12:00.159><c> to</c>

01:12:01.669 --> 01:12:01.679 align:start position:0%
large sum of money that permitted me to
 

01:12:01.679 --> 01:12:03.910 align:start position:0%
large sum of money that permitted me to
hire<01:12:02.239><c> quite</c><01:12:02.480><c> a</c><01:12:02.560><c> large</c><01:12:02.960><c> number</c><01:12:03.199><c> of</c><01:12:03.440><c> graduate</c>

01:12:03.910 --> 01:12:03.920 align:start position:0%
hire quite a large number of graduate
 

01:12:03.920 --> 01:12:05.830 align:start position:0%
hire quite a large number of graduate
students<01:12:04.400><c> in</c>

01:12:05.830 --> 01:12:05.840 align:start position:0%
students in
 

01:12:05.840 --> 01:12:07.669 align:start position:0%
students in
computer<01:12:06.400><c> science</c><01:12:06.880><c> and</c><01:12:07.040><c> electrical</c>

01:12:07.669 --> 01:12:07.679 align:start position:0%
computer science and electrical
 

01:12:07.679 --> 01:12:09.510 align:start position:0%
computer science and electrical
engineering

01:12:09.510 --> 01:12:09.520 align:start position:0%
engineering
 

01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:13.350 align:start position:0%
engineering
and<01:12:09.840><c> permitted</c><01:12:10.320><c> use</c><01:12:10.719><c> to</c><01:12:10.880><c> get</c><01:12:11.199><c> her</c><01:12:11.440><c> own</c><01:12:12.480><c> pdp</c><01:12:13.040><c> six</c>

01:12:13.350 --> 01:12:13.360 align:start position:0%
and permitted use to get her own pdp six
 

01:12:13.360 --> 01:12:14.870 align:start position:0%
and permitted use to get her own pdp six
computer

01:12:14.870 --> 01:12:14.880 align:start position:0%
computer
 

01:12:14.880 --> 01:12:17.830 align:start position:0%
computer
and<01:12:15.040><c> to</c><01:12:15.199><c> keep</c><01:12:15.600><c> updating</c><01:12:16.239><c> it</c><01:12:16.320><c> to</c><01:12:16.560><c> a</c><01:12:16.640><c> pdp</c><01:12:17.280><c> 10</c><01:12:17.679><c> and</c>

01:12:17.830 --> 01:12:17.840 align:start position:0%
and to keep updating it to a pdp 10 and
 

01:12:17.840 --> 01:12:18.709 align:start position:0%
and to keep updating it to a pdp 10 and
a<01:12:18.000><c> k8</c>

01:12:18.709 --> 01:12:18.719 align:start position:0%
a k8
 

01:12:18.719 --> 01:12:23.669 align:start position:0%
a k8
and<01:12:20.840><c> uh</c>

01:12:23.669 --> 01:12:23.679 align:start position:0%
and uh
 

01:12:23.679 --> 01:12:26.870 align:start position:0%
and uh
we<01:12:23.920><c> also</c><01:12:26.400><c> uh</c>

01:12:26.870 --> 01:12:26.880 align:start position:0%
we also uh
 

01:12:26.880 --> 01:12:31.270 align:start position:0%
we also uh
that<01:12:27.120><c> was</c>

01:12:31.270 --> 01:12:31.280 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:12:31.280 --> 01:12:34.470 align:start position:0%
 
uh

01:12:34.470 --> 01:12:34.480 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:12:34.480 --> 01:12:37.910 align:start position:0%
 
gave<01:12:34.800><c> us</c><01:12:35.120><c> big</c><01:12:35.600><c> discounts</c>

01:12:37.910 --> 01:12:37.920 align:start position:0%
gave us big discounts
 

01:12:37.920 --> 01:12:40.950 align:start position:0%
gave us big discounts
on<01:12:38.239><c> the</c>

01:12:40.950 --> 01:12:40.960 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:12:40.960 --> 01:12:48.830 align:start position:0%
 
all<01:12:41.199><c> of</c><01:12:41.360><c> our</c><01:12:41.760><c> upgrades</c>

01:12:48.830 --> 01:12:48.840 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:12:48.840 --> 01:12:50.229 align:start position:0%
 
and

01:12:50.229 --> 01:12:50.239 align:start position:0%
and
 

01:12:50.239 --> 01:12:53.990 align:start position:0%
and
uh<01:12:51.840><c> i</c><01:12:52.000><c> never</c><01:12:52.400><c> really</c><01:12:52.800><c> tried</c><01:12:53.120><c> to</c><01:12:53.280><c> figure</c><01:12:53.600><c> out</c><01:12:53.840><c> to</c>

01:12:53.990 --> 01:12:54.000 align:start position:0%
uh i never really tried to figure out to
 

01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:56.390 align:start position:0%
uh i never really tried to figure out to
what<01:12:54.239><c> extent</c>

01:12:56.390 --> 01:12:56.400 align:start position:0%
what extent
 

01:12:56.400 --> 01:13:00.470 align:start position:0%
what extent
they<01:12:56.640><c> were</c><01:12:58.880><c> matters</c><01:12:59.440><c> of</c><01:12:59.600><c> gratitude</c>

01:13:00.470 --> 01:13:00.480 align:start position:0%
they were matters of gratitude
 

01:13:00.480 --> 01:13:06.870 align:start position:0%
they were matters of gratitude
for<01:13:00.800><c> what</c><01:13:01.040><c> we</c><01:13:01.199><c> had</c><01:13:01.440><c> done</c><01:13:01.760><c> for</c><01:13:02.840><c> them</c>

01:13:06.870 --> 01:13:06.880 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:13:06.880 --> 01:13:09.990 align:start position:0%
 
or<01:13:07.440><c> and</c><01:13:07.679><c> to</c><01:13:07.840><c> what</c><01:13:08.000><c> extent</c><01:13:08.480><c> they</c><01:13:08.719><c> were</c>

01:13:09.990 --> 01:13:10.000 align:start position:0%
or and to what extent they were
 

01:13:10.000 --> 01:13:13.030 align:start position:0%
or and to what extent they were
merely

01:13:13.030 --> 01:13:13.040 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:13:13.040 --> 01:13:18.950 align:start position:0%
 
making<01:13:13.440><c> the</c><01:13:13.600><c> sale</c><01:13:15.679><c> i</c><01:13:15.840><c> don't</c><01:13:16.840><c> know</c>

01:13:18.950 --> 01:13:18.960 align:start position:0%
making the sale i don't know
 

01:13:18.960 --> 01:13:22.310 align:start position:0%
making the sale i don't know
but<01:13:19.600><c> they</c><01:13:21.120><c> certainly</c><01:13:21.520><c> did</c><01:13:21.760><c> a</c><01:13:21.840><c> lot</c><01:13:22.000><c> of</c>

01:13:22.310 --> 01:13:22.320 align:start position:0%
but they certainly did a lot of
 

01:13:22.320 --> 01:13:28.390 align:start position:0%
but they certainly did a lot of
gave<01:13:22.560><c> us</c><01:13:22.719><c> a</c><01:13:22.800><c> lot</c><01:13:23.040><c> of</c><01:13:23.280><c> credit</c><01:13:25.280><c> and</c>

01:13:28.390 --> 01:13:28.400 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:13:28.400 --> 01:13:34.790 align:start position:0%
 
they<01:13:28.719><c> used</c><01:13:29.199><c> our</c><01:13:31.199><c> drawing</c><01:13:31.760><c> program</c>

01:13:34.790 --> 01:13:34.800 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:13:34.800 --> 01:13:43.830 align:start position:0%
 
to<01:13:35.040><c> write</c><01:13:35.679><c> the</c><01:13:37.040><c> drawings</c><01:13:37.600><c> for</c><01:13:37.920><c> the</c>

01:13:43.830 --> 01:13:43.840 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:13:43.840 --> 01:13:47.830 align:start position:0%
 
i<01:13:44.000><c> think</c><01:13:44.400><c> maybe</c><01:13:44.719><c> the</c><01:13:44.880><c> ka-10</c>

01:13:47.830 --> 01:13:47.840 align:start position:0%
i think maybe the ka-10
 

01:13:47.840 --> 01:13:50.790 align:start position:0%
i think maybe the ka-10
at<01:13:48.159><c> some</c><01:13:48.480><c> point</c><01:13:48.880><c> when</c><01:13:49.120><c> the</c><01:13:49.360><c> guys</c><01:13:49.760><c> had</c><01:13:50.000><c> a</c>

01:13:50.790 --> 01:13:50.800 align:start position:0%
at some point when the guys had a
 

01:13:50.800 --> 01:13:52.790 align:start position:0%
at some point when the guys had a
project<01:13:51.280><c> to</c><01:13:51.520><c> design</c><01:13:52.080><c> our</c><01:13:52.400><c> own</c>

01:13:52.790 --> 01:13:52.800 align:start position:0%
project to design our own
 

01:13:52.800 --> 01:13:57.830 align:start position:0%
project to design our own
pdp-10<01:13:53.679><c> like</c><01:13:53.920><c> computer</c><01:13:55.280><c> only</c><01:13:55.600><c> much</c><01:13:56.000><c> faster</c>

01:13:57.830 --> 01:13:57.840 align:start position:0%
pdp-10 like computer only much faster
 

01:13:57.840 --> 01:14:01.430 align:start position:0%
pdp-10 like computer only much faster
and<01:13:58.080><c> prepared</c><01:13:58.640><c> the</c><01:13:58.800><c> design</c><01:13:59.520><c> and</c><01:14:00.640><c> got</c><01:14:00.960><c> sent</c><01:14:01.199><c> off</c>

01:14:01.430 --> 01:14:01.440 align:start position:0%
and prepared the design and got sent off
 

01:14:01.440 --> 01:14:04.550 align:start position:0%
and prepared the design and got sent off
to<01:14:01.600><c> darpa</c>

01:14:04.550 --> 01:14:04.560 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:14:04.560 --> 01:14:07.510 align:start position:0%
 
and<01:14:04.800><c> darpa</c><01:14:05.280><c> said</c><01:14:05.520><c> yes</c><01:14:06.400><c> i</c><01:14:06.640><c> look</c><01:14:06.880><c> i</c><01:14:06.960><c> had</c><01:14:07.199><c> a</c><01:14:07.280><c> bunch</c>

01:14:07.510 --> 01:14:07.520 align:start position:0%
and darpa said yes i look i had a bunch
 

01:14:07.520 --> 01:14:09.590 align:start position:0%
and darpa said yes i look i had a bunch
of<01:14:07.600><c> consultants</c><01:14:08.320><c> look</c><01:14:08.560><c> at</c><01:14:08.719><c> it</c><01:14:08.880><c> they</c><01:14:09.040><c> said</c><01:14:09.280><c> yeah</c>

01:14:09.590 --> 01:14:09.600 align:start position:0%
of consultants look at it they said yeah
 

01:14:09.600 --> 01:14:10.709 align:start position:0%
of consultants look at it they said yeah
it<01:14:09.760><c> will</c>

01:14:10.709 --> 01:14:10.719 align:start position:0%
it will
 

01:14:10.719 --> 01:14:14.310 align:start position:0%
it will
probably<01:14:11.120><c> work</c><01:14:11.440><c> and</c><01:14:11.520><c> then</c><01:14:12.640><c> darpa</c><01:14:13.040><c> decided</c>

01:14:14.310 --> 01:14:14.320 align:start position:0%
probably work and then darpa decided
 

01:14:14.320 --> 01:14:17.270 align:start position:0%
probably work and then darpa decided
no<01:14:14.560><c> we</c><01:14:14.719><c> don't</c><01:14:14.800><c> want</c><01:14:14.960><c> to</c><01:14:15.040><c> be</c><01:14:15.199><c> in</c><01:14:15.280><c> that</c><01:14:15.520><c> business</c>

01:14:17.270 --> 01:14:17.280 align:start position:0%
no we don't want to be in that business
 

01:14:17.280 --> 01:14:19.590 align:start position:0%
no we don't want to be in that business
didn't<01:14:17.600><c> support</c><01:14:18.080><c> it</c>

01:14:19.590 --> 01:14:19.600 align:start position:0%
didn't support it
 

01:14:19.600 --> 01:14:24.149 align:start position:0%
didn't support it
well<01:14:22.400><c> xerox</c><01:14:22.960><c> park</c><01:14:23.280><c> designed</c><01:14:23.760><c> their</c><01:14:24.000><c> own</c>

01:14:24.149 --> 01:14:24.159 align:start position:0%
well xerox park designed their own
 

01:14:24.159 --> 01:14:26.830 align:start position:0%
well xerox park designed their own
pdp-10

01:14:26.830 --> 01:14:26.840 align:start position:0%
pdp-10
 

01:14:26.840 --> 01:14:33.669 align:start position:0%
pdp-10
building

01:14:33.669 --> 01:14:33.679 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:14:33.679 --> 01:14:36.709 align:start position:0%
 
so<01:14:34.080><c> the</c><01:14:34.239><c> robotics</c><01:14:34.960><c> was</c>

01:14:36.709 --> 01:14:36.719 align:start position:0%
so the robotics was
 

01:14:36.719 --> 01:14:40.149 align:start position:0%
so the robotics was
in<01:14:36.880><c> some</c><01:14:37.199><c> sense</c>

01:14:40.149 --> 01:14:40.159 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:43.669 align:start position:0%
 
an<01:14:40.960><c> illustration</c><01:14:41.920><c> of</c><01:14:42.159><c> this</c>

01:14:43.669 --> 01:14:43.679 align:start position:0%
an illustration of this
 

01:14:43.679 --> 01:14:47.270 align:start position:0%
an illustration of this
argument<01:14:45.199><c> about</c><01:14:45.520><c> ai</c>

01:14:47.270 --> 01:14:47.280 align:start position:0%
argument about ai
 

01:14:47.280 --> 01:14:51.110 align:start position:0%
argument about ai
but<01:14:47.600><c> of</c><01:14:47.760><c> course</c><01:14:48.080><c> it</c><01:14:48.239><c> was</c><01:14:48.480><c> useful</c><01:14:49.760><c> or</c>

01:14:51.110 --> 01:14:51.120 align:start position:0%
but of course it was useful or
 

01:14:51.120 --> 01:14:54.310 align:start position:0%
but of course it was useful or
led<01:14:51.360><c> to</c><01:14:51.600><c> being</c><01:14:52.239><c> things</c><01:14:52.560><c> being</c><01:14:52.880><c> useful</c>

01:14:54.310 --> 01:14:54.320 align:start position:0%
led to being things being useful
 

01:14:54.320 --> 01:15:01.350 align:start position:0%
led to being things being useful
and<01:14:54.840><c> certainly</c><01:14:56.560><c> ah</c>

01:15:01.350 --> 01:15:01.360 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:15:01.360 --> 01:15:05.430 align:start position:0%
 
let's<01:15:01.600><c> put</c><01:15:01.840><c> it</c><01:15:01.920><c> this</c><01:15:02.159><c> way</c>

01:15:05.430 --> 01:15:05.440 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:15:05.440 --> 01:15:07.750 align:start position:0%
 
when<01:15:05.679><c> walter</c><01:15:06.000><c> cronkite</c><01:15:06.719><c> came</c><01:15:06.960><c> to</c><01:15:07.120><c> interview</c>

01:15:07.750 --> 01:15:07.760 align:start position:0%
when walter cronkite came to interview
 

01:15:07.760 --> 01:15:09.189 align:start position:0%
when walter cronkite came to interview
me

01:15:09.189 --> 01:15:09.199 align:start position:0%
me
 

01:15:09.199 --> 01:15:11.430 align:start position:0%
me
i<01:15:09.360><c> did</c><01:15:09.600><c> not</c><01:15:09.840><c> try</c><01:15:10.159><c> to</c><01:15:10.320><c> make</c><01:15:10.560><c> him</c><01:15:10.800><c> understand</c>

01:15:11.430 --> 01:15:11.440 align:start position:0%
i did not try to make him understand
 

01:15:11.440 --> 01:15:12.950 align:start position:0%
i did not try to make him understand
this

01:15:12.950 --> 01:15:12.960 align:start position:0%
this
 

01:15:12.960 --> 01:15:16.950 align:start position:0%
this
more<01:15:13.280><c> abstract</c><01:15:14.080><c> notion</c><01:15:14.560><c> of</c><01:15:15.880><c> discrimination</c>

01:15:16.950 --> 01:15:16.960 align:start position:0%
more abstract notion of discrimination
 

01:15:16.960 --> 01:15:17.189 align:start position:0%
more abstract notion of discrimination
and

01:15:17.189 --> 01:15:17.199 align:start position:0%
and
 

01:15:17.199 --> 01:15:37.590 align:start position:0%
and
versus<01:15:22.840><c> description</c>

01:15:37.590 --> 01:15:37.600 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:15:37.600 --> 01:15:45.270 align:start position:0%
 
but<01:15:38.000><c> um</c>

01:15:45.270 --> 01:15:45.280 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:15:45.280 --> 01:15:49.189 align:start position:0%
 
there<01:15:45.600><c> was</c><01:15:45.920><c> quite</c><01:15:46.159><c> a</c><01:15:46.239><c> bit</c><01:15:46.719><c> of</c>

01:15:49.189 --> 01:15:49.199 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:15:49.199 --> 01:15:53.030 align:start position:0%
 
industrial<01:15:50.840><c> robotics</c>

01:15:53.030 --> 01:15:53.040 align:start position:0%
industrial robotics
 

01:15:53.040 --> 01:15:58.229 align:start position:0%
industrial robotics
already<01:15:55.760><c> uh</c>

01:15:58.229 --> 01:15:58.239 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:15:58.239 --> 01:16:02.310 align:start position:0%
 
but<01:15:58.400><c> they</c><01:15:58.640><c> were</c><01:15:58.960><c> even</c><01:15:59.360><c> less</c><01:15:59.679><c> likely</c>

01:16:02.310 --> 01:16:02.320 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:16:02.320 --> 01:16:07.189 align:start position:0%
 
or<01:16:03.280><c> they</c><01:16:03.440><c> were</c><01:16:04.239><c> to</c><01:16:04.480><c> write</c><01:16:04.719><c> papers</c><01:16:05.199><c> about</c><01:16:05.600><c> it</c>

01:16:07.189 --> 01:16:07.199 align:start position:0%
or they were to write papers about it
 

01:16:07.199 --> 01:16:10.470 align:start position:0%
or they were to write papers about it
than<01:16:07.440><c> the</c><01:16:07.679><c> academic</c><01:16:08.320><c> part</c><01:16:10.159><c> so</c>

01:16:10.470 --> 01:16:10.480 align:start position:0%
than the academic part so
 

01:16:10.480 --> 01:16:14.390 align:start position:0%
than the academic part so
we<01:16:10.640><c> did</c><01:16:12.320><c> i</c><01:16:12.480><c> remember</c><01:16:13.040><c> pay</c><01:16:13.280><c> a</c><01:16:13.360><c> visit</c><01:16:13.679><c> to</c><01:16:13.840><c> a</c><01:16:14.000><c> ford</c>

01:16:14.390 --> 01:16:14.400 align:start position:0%
we did i remember pay a visit to a ford
 

01:16:14.400 --> 01:16:18.630 align:start position:0%
we did i remember pay a visit to a ford
plant

01:16:18.630 --> 01:16:18.640 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:16:18.640 --> 01:16:21.830 align:start position:0%
 
they<01:16:18.880><c> showed</c><01:16:19.199><c> us</c><01:16:20.800><c> where</c><01:16:21.040><c> they</c><01:16:21.199><c> were</c><01:16:21.440><c> doing</c>

01:16:21.830 --> 01:16:21.840 align:start position:0%
they showed us where they were doing
 

01:16:21.840 --> 01:16:23.990 align:start position:0%
they showed us where they were doing
assembly

01:16:23.990 --> 01:16:24.000 align:start position:0%
assembly
 

01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:28.470 align:start position:0%
assembly
and<01:16:24.239><c> also</c><01:16:26.560><c> i</c><01:16:26.719><c> once</c><01:16:27.040><c> paid</c><01:16:27.280><c> a</c><01:16:27.360><c> visit</c><01:16:27.679><c> to</c><01:16:27.840><c> ibm</c>

01:16:28.470 --> 01:16:28.480 align:start position:0%
and also i once paid a visit to ibm
 

01:16:28.480 --> 01:16:31.750 align:start position:0%
and also i once paid a visit to ibm
where<01:16:28.640><c> they</c><01:16:28.800><c> were</c><01:16:28.960><c> doing</c><01:16:29.360><c> some</c>

01:16:31.750 --> 01:16:31.760 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:16:31.760 --> 01:16:34.709 align:start position:0%
 
automatic<01:16:32.480><c> assembly</c><01:16:33.120><c> of</c><01:16:33.280><c> comp</c><01:16:34.239><c> partial</c>

01:16:34.709 --> 01:16:34.719 align:start position:0%
automatic assembly of comp partial
 

01:16:34.719 --> 01:16:35.430 align:start position:0%
automatic assembly of comp partial
automatic

01:16:35.430 --> 01:16:35.440 align:start position:0%
automatic
 

01:16:35.440 --> 01:16:38.310 align:start position:0%
automatic
assembly<01:16:36.800><c> was</c><01:16:36.960><c> sort</c><01:16:37.199><c> of</c><01:16:37.280><c> very</c><01:16:37.679><c> interesting</c>

01:16:38.310 --> 01:16:38.320 align:start position:0%
assembly was sort of very interesting
 

01:16:38.320 --> 01:16:41.030 align:start position:0%
assembly was sort of very interesting
there<01:16:38.640><c> because</c>

01:16:41.030 --> 01:16:41.040 align:start position:0%
there because
 

01:16:41.040 --> 01:16:44.149 align:start position:0%
there because
you<01:16:41.280><c> could</c><01:16:41.679><c> see</c><01:16:41.920><c> the</c><01:16:43.360><c> things</c><01:16:43.760><c> being</c>

01:16:44.149 --> 01:16:44.159 align:start position:0%
you could see the things being
 

01:16:44.159 --> 01:16:47.270 align:start position:0%
you could see the things being
assembled<01:16:44.800><c> automatically</c><01:16:46.560><c> and</c><01:16:46.719><c> then</c><01:16:47.120><c> there</c>

01:16:47.270 --> 01:16:47.280 align:start position:0%
assembled automatically and then there
 

01:16:47.280 --> 01:16:48.070 align:start position:0%
assembled automatically and then there
was<01:16:47.440><c> some</c><01:16:47.679><c> part</c>

01:16:48.070 --> 01:16:48.080 align:start position:0%
was some part
 

01:16:48.080 --> 01:16:50.550 align:start position:0%
was some part
of<01:16:48.159><c> the</c><01:16:48.320><c> work</c><01:16:48.640><c> that</c><01:16:49.679><c> where</c><01:16:49.840><c> it</c><01:16:50.000><c> would</c><01:16:50.159><c> suddenly</c>

01:16:50.550 --> 01:16:50.560 align:start position:0%
of the work that where it would suddenly
 

01:16:50.560 --> 01:16:52.790 align:start position:0%
of the work that where it would suddenly
expand<01:16:51.120><c> out</c><01:16:51.360><c> i</c><01:16:51.520><c> think</c>

01:16:52.790 --> 01:16:52.800 align:start position:0%
expand out i think
 

01:16:52.800 --> 01:16:56.149 align:start position:0%
expand out i think
uh

01:16:56.149 --> 01:16:56.159 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:16:56.159 --> 01:16:58.149 align:start position:0%
 
to<01:16:56.400><c> a</c><01:16:57.040><c> part</c><01:16:57.280><c> where</c><01:16:57.440><c> it</c><01:16:57.520><c> couldn't</c><01:16:57.760><c> be</c><01:16:57.920><c> done</c>

01:16:58.149 --> 01:16:58.159 align:start position:0%
to a part where it couldn't be done
 

01:16:58.159 --> 01:16:59.669 align:start position:0%
to a part where it couldn't be done
automatically<01:16:58.880><c> in</c><01:16:58.960><c> there</c><01:16:59.199><c> and</c><01:16:59.280><c> maybe</c><01:16:59.520><c> a</c>

01:16:59.669 --> 01:16:59.679 align:start position:0%
automatically in there and maybe a
 

01:16:59.679 --> 01:17:05.270 align:start position:0%
automatically in there and maybe a
department<01:17:00.159><c> of</c><01:17:00.320><c> 40</c><01:17:00.840><c> women</c><01:17:01.920><c> doing</c><01:17:02.400><c> a</c>

01:17:05.270 --> 01:17:05.280 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:17:05.280 --> 01:17:08.709 align:start position:0%
 
manual<01:17:05.840><c> assembly</c>

01:17:08.709 --> 01:17:08.719 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:17:08.719 --> 01:17:19.189 align:start position:0%
 
some<01:17:08.960><c> part</c><01:17:09.199><c> of</c><01:17:14.840><c> it</c>

01:17:19.189 --> 01:17:19.199 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:17:19.199 --> 01:17:28.830 align:start position:0%
 
now<01:17:19.520><c> let's</c><01:17:19.760><c> see</c><01:17:21.360><c> so</c><01:17:21.840><c> the</c><01:17:22.000><c> ai</c>

01:17:28.830 --> 01:17:28.840 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:17:28.840 --> 01:17:40.390 align:start position:0%
 
lab<01:17:29.920><c> i</c><01:17:30.159><c> think</c>

01:17:40.390 --> 01:17:40.400 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:17:40.400 --> 01:17:44.550 align:start position:0%
 
move<01:17:40.719><c> to</c><01:17:42.840><c> campus</c>

01:17:44.550 --> 01:17:44.560 align:start position:0%
move to campus
 

01:17:44.560 --> 01:17:51.590 align:start position:0%
move to campus
um<01:17:47.360><c> comes</c><01:17:47.679><c> to</c><01:17:47.840><c> me</c><01:17:48.080><c> in</c><01:17:48.440><c> 1989</c>

01:17:51.590 --> 01:17:51.600 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:17:51.600 --> 01:17:55.110 align:start position:0%
 
and<01:17:51.840><c> then</c>

01:17:55.110 --> 01:17:55.120 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:17:55.120 --> 01:17:57.030 align:start position:0%
 
we<01:17:55.280><c> had</c><01:17:55.520><c> a</c><01:17:55.600><c> lot</c><01:17:55.760><c> of</c><01:17:55.920><c> trouble</c><01:17:56.320><c> getting</c><01:17:56.640><c> funding</c>

01:17:57.030 --> 01:17:57.040 align:start position:0%
we had a lot of trouble getting funding
 

01:17:57.040 --> 01:18:03.830 align:start position:0%
we had a lot of trouble getting funding
from<01:17:57.280><c> darpa</c><01:17:57.840><c> and</c><01:17:58.000><c> dissolved</c><01:17:58.560><c> it</c>

01:18:03.830 --> 01:18:03.840 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:18:03.840 --> 01:18:06.070 align:start position:0%
 
we<01:18:04.080><c> didn't</c><01:18:04.320><c> get</c><01:18:04.480><c> the</c><01:18:04.719><c> space</c><01:18:05.120><c> on</c><01:18:05.360><c> campus</c><01:18:05.840><c> that</c>

01:18:06.070 --> 01:18:06.080 align:start position:0%
we didn't get the space on campus that
 

01:18:06.080 --> 01:18:12.070 align:start position:0%
we didn't get the space on campus that
we<01:18:06.239><c> were</c><01:18:10.840><c> promised</c>

01:18:12.070 --> 01:18:12.080 align:start position:0%
we were promised
 

01:18:12.080 --> 01:18:15.110 align:start position:0%
we were promised
oh<01:18:12.480><c> if</c><01:18:12.560><c> you</c><01:18:12.719><c> want</c><01:18:13.600><c> a</c><01:18:13.760><c> lot</c><01:18:13.920><c> of</c><01:18:14.080><c> detail</c><01:18:14.719><c> have</c><01:18:14.880><c> you</c>

01:18:15.110 --> 01:18:15.120 align:start position:0%
oh if you want a lot of detail have you
 

01:18:15.120 --> 01:18:16.229 align:start position:0%
oh if you want a lot of detail have you
interviewed<01:18:15.679><c> or</c><01:18:15.840><c> are</c><01:18:15.920><c> you</c><01:18:16.000><c> going</c><01:18:16.159><c> to</c>

01:18:16.229 --> 01:18:16.239 align:start position:0%
interviewed or are you going to
 

01:18:16.239 --> 01:18:21.910 align:start position:0%
interviewed or are you going to
interview<01:18:16.719><c> lester</c><01:18:17.120><c> earnest</c>

01:18:21.910 --> 01:18:21.920 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:18:21.920 --> 01:18:25.510 align:start position:0%
 
lester<01:18:22.320><c> ernest</c><01:18:22.880><c> is</c><01:18:23.199><c> the</c>

01:18:25.510 --> 01:18:25.520 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:18:25.520 --> 01:18:28.630 align:start position:0%
 
executor<01:18:26.159><c> also</c><01:18:26.800><c> executive</c><01:18:27.520><c> officer</c><01:18:28.159><c> of</c><01:18:28.320><c> the</c>

01:18:28.630 --> 01:18:28.640 align:start position:0%
executor also executive officer of the
 

01:18:28.640 --> 01:18:32.149 align:start position:0%
executor also executive officer of the
ai<01:18:29.120><c> lab</c><01:18:31.280><c> and</c><01:18:31.440><c> he</c>

01:18:32.149 --> 01:18:32.159 align:start position:0%
ai lab and he
 

01:18:32.159 --> 01:18:34.550 align:start position:0%
ai lab and he
did<01:18:32.320><c> a</c><01:18:32.400><c> lot</c><01:18:32.560><c> of</c><01:18:32.800><c> our</c><01:18:33.040><c> interaction</c><01:18:33.679><c> with</c><01:18:34.000><c> darpa</c>

01:18:34.550 --> 01:18:34.560 align:start position:0%
did a lot of our interaction with darpa
 

01:18:34.560 --> 01:18:35.990 align:start position:0%
did a lot of our interaction with darpa
and<01:18:34.880><c> with</c>

01:18:35.990 --> 01:18:36.000 align:start position:0%
and with
 

01:18:36.000 --> 01:18:39.990 align:start position:0%
and with
suppliers<01:18:36.960><c> and</c><01:18:37.120><c> a</c><01:18:37.199><c> lot</c><01:18:37.360><c> of</c><01:18:37.440><c> the</c><01:18:38.840><c> supervision</c>

01:18:39.990 --> 01:18:40.000 align:start position:0%
suppliers and a lot of the supervision
 

01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:42.630 align:start position:0%
suppliers and a lot of the supervision
projects<01:18:40.640><c> and</c><01:18:40.880><c> a</c><01:18:41.280><c> fair</c><01:18:41.520><c> amount</c><01:18:41.760><c> of</c><01:18:41.920><c> initiative</c>

01:18:42.630 --> 01:18:42.640 align:start position:0%
projects and a fair amount of initiative
 

01:18:42.640 --> 01:18:46.790 align:start position:0%
projects and a fair amount of initiative
on<01:18:42.880><c> projects</c>

01:18:46.790 --> 01:18:46.800 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:18:46.800 --> 01:18:52.149 align:start position:0%
 
i<01:18:46.960><c> once</c><01:18:48.640><c> remember</c>

01:18:52.149 --> 01:18:52.159 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:18:52.159 --> 01:18:58.950 align:start position:0%
 
larry<01:18:52.840><c> roberts</c><01:18:53.840><c> asking</c><01:18:54.400><c> me</c>

01:18:58.950 --> 01:18:58.960 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:18:58.960 --> 01:19:03.990 align:start position:0%
 
what<01:18:59.199><c> the</c><01:18:59.360><c> relation</c><01:19:00.080><c> was</c><01:19:01.600><c> he</c><01:19:01.840><c> said</c>

01:19:03.990 --> 01:19:04.000 align:start position:0%
what the relation was he said
 

01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:08.470 align:start position:0%
what the relation was he said
can<01:19:04.239><c> you</c><01:19:04.480><c> fire</c><01:19:04.880><c> him</c><01:19:05.199><c> or</c><01:19:05.360><c> can</c><01:19:05.600><c> he</c><01:19:05.840><c> fire</c><01:19:06.840><c> you</c>

01:19:08.470 --> 01:19:08.480 align:start position:0%
can you fire him or can he fire you
 

01:19:08.480 --> 01:19:10.790 align:start position:0%
can you fire him or can he fire you
and<01:19:08.560><c> i</c><01:19:08.719><c> said</c><01:19:08.880><c> well</c><01:19:09.120><c> i</c><01:19:09.280><c> believe</c><01:19:09.679><c> i</c><01:19:09.840><c> can</c><01:19:10.159><c> fire</c><01:19:10.480><c> him</c>

01:19:10.790 --> 01:19:10.800 align:start position:0%
and i said well i believe i can fire him
 

01:19:10.800 --> 01:19:19.669 align:start position:0%
and i said well i believe i can fire him
would<01:19:10.960><c> you</c><01:19:11.120><c> like</c><01:19:11.360><c> me</c><01:19:11.520><c> to</c><01:19:11.679><c> try</c>

01:19:19.669 --> 01:19:19.679 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:19:19.679 --> 01:19:21.910 align:start position:0%
 
well<01:19:20.239><c> several</c><01:19:20.640><c> years</c><01:19:20.960><c> when</c><01:19:21.199><c> the</c><01:19:21.360><c> shortage</c><01:19:21.840><c> of</c>

01:19:21.910 --> 01:19:21.920 align:start position:0%
well several years when the shortage of
 

01:19:21.920 --> 01:19:24.870 align:start position:0%
well several years when the shortage of
funds<01:19:22.320><c> became</c><01:19:22.719><c> sufficiently</c><01:19:23.440><c> acute</c>

01:19:24.870 --> 01:19:24.880 align:start position:0%
funds became sufficiently acute
 

01:19:24.880 --> 01:19:32.390 align:start position:0%
funds became sufficiently acute
i<01:19:25.040><c> had</c><01:19:25.199><c> to</c><01:19:25.360><c> do</c><01:19:25.600><c> that</c>

01:19:32.390 --> 01:19:32.400 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:19:32.400 --> 01:19:36.070 align:start position:0%
 
so<01:19:32.560><c> what</c><01:19:32.719><c> do</c><01:19:32.800><c> you</c><01:19:32.960><c> think</c><01:19:34.080><c> ai</c><01:19:34.719><c> gained</c><01:19:35.360><c> from</c>

01:19:36.070 --> 01:19:36.080 align:start position:0%
so what do you think ai gained from
 

01:19:36.080 --> 01:19:48.830 align:start position:0%
so what do you think ai gained from
adventures<01:19:36.800><c> into</c><01:19:37.360><c> robotics</c><01:19:38.000><c> research</c>

01:19:48.830 --> 01:19:48.840 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:19:48.840 --> 01:19:53.669 align:start position:0%
 
well<01:19:50.239><c> a</c><01:19:50.400><c> lot</c><01:19:50.560><c> of</c><01:19:50.719><c> the</c><01:19:50.960><c> specific</c>

01:19:53.669 --> 01:19:53.679 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:19:53.679 --> 01:19:57.430 align:start position:0%
 
uh

01:19:57.430 --> 01:19:57.440 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:19:57.440 --> 01:20:02.950 align:start position:0%
 
pieces<01:19:57.920><c> of</c><01:19:58.159><c> research</c><01:19:59.679><c> contributed</c><01:20:00.320><c> to</c><01:20:00.480><c> ai</c>

01:20:02.950 --> 01:20:02.960 align:start position:0%
pieces of research contributed to ai
 

01:20:02.960 --> 01:20:06.070 align:start position:0%
pieces of research contributed to ai
the<01:20:04.080><c> face</c><01:20:04.480><c> recognition</c><01:20:05.520><c> the</c><01:20:05.679><c> speech</c>

01:20:06.070 --> 01:20:06.080 align:start position:0%
the face recognition the speech
 

01:20:06.080 --> 01:20:16.830 align:start position:0%
the face recognition the speech
recognition

01:20:16.830 --> 01:20:16.840 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:20:16.840 --> 01:20:20.550 align:start position:0%
 
ah

01:20:20.550 --> 01:20:20.560 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:20:20.560 --> 01:20:24.470 align:start position:0%
 
uh

01:20:24.470 --> 01:20:24.480 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:20:24.480 --> 01:20:28.310 align:start position:0%
 
the<01:20:26.480><c> driving</c><01:20:27.040><c> the</c>

01:20:28.310 --> 01:20:28.320 align:start position:0%
the driving the
 

01:20:28.320 --> 01:20:34.149 align:start position:0%
the driving the
cart<01:20:28.719><c> around</c><01:20:29.040><c> the</c><01:20:31.199><c> uh</c><01:20:30.840><c> lab</c>

01:20:34.149 --> 01:20:34.159 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:20:34.159 --> 01:20:37.910 align:start position:0%
 
mechanical<01:20:34.960><c> assembly</c><01:20:35.600><c> and</c><01:20:35.840><c> so</c><01:20:36.080><c> forth</c>

01:20:37.910 --> 01:20:37.920 align:start position:0%
mechanical assembly and so forth
 

01:20:37.920 --> 01:20:44.830 align:start position:0%
mechanical assembly and so forth
these<01:20:38.159><c> things</c>

01:20:44.830 --> 01:20:44.840 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:20:44.840 --> 01:20:51.830 align:start position:0%
 
uh

01:20:51.830 --> 01:20:51.840 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:20:51.840 --> 01:20:55.189 align:start position:0%
 
they<01:20:52.239><c> established</c><01:20:53.040><c> a</c><01:20:53.199><c> sort</c><01:20:53.440><c> of</c>

01:20:55.189 --> 01:20:55.199 align:start position:0%
they established a sort of
 

01:20:55.199 --> 01:20:58.830 align:start position:0%
they established a sort of
boundary<01:20:55.920><c> of</c><01:20:56.080><c> what</c><01:20:56.320><c> was</c><01:20:56.560><c> relatively</c><01:20:57.280><c> easy</c><01:20:57.679><c> to</c>

01:20:58.830 --> 01:20:58.840 align:start position:0%
boundary of what was relatively easy to
 

01:20:58.840 --> 01:21:14.550 align:start position:0%
boundary of what was relatively easy to
do

01:21:14.550 --> 01:21:14.560 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:21:14.560 --> 01:21:31.350 align:start position:0%
 
yeah<01:21:15.360><c> i</c><01:21:15.520><c> think</c><01:21:26.840><c> uh</c>

01:21:31.350 --> 01:21:31.360 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:21:31.360 --> 01:21:33.430 align:start position:0%
 
ernest<01:21:31.920><c> is</c><01:21:32.159><c> a</c><01:21:32.239><c> guy</c><01:21:32.480><c> you</c><01:21:32.639><c> should</c><01:21:32.880><c> definitely</c>

01:21:33.430 --> 01:21:33.440 align:start position:0%
ernest is a guy you should definitely
 

01:21:33.440 --> 01:21:37.270 align:start position:0%
ernest is a guy you should definitely
enter<01:21:33.760><c> point</c><01:21:34.000><c> and</c><01:21:34.239><c> view</c>

01:21:37.270 --> 01:21:37.280 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:21:37.280 --> 01:21:38.870 align:start position:0%
 
did<01:21:37.440><c> you</c><01:21:37.520><c> have</c><01:21:37.679><c> much</c><01:21:37.920><c> interaction</c><01:21:38.560><c> with</c><01:21:38.800><c> the</c>

01:21:38.870 --> 01:21:38.880 align:start position:0%
did you have much interaction with the
 

01:21:38.880 --> 01:21:40.390 align:start position:0%
did you have much interaction with the
people<01:21:39.199><c> at</c><01:21:39.360><c> sri</c>

01:21:40.390 --> 01:21:40.400 align:start position:0%
people at sri
 

01:21:40.400 --> 01:22:00.550 align:start position:0%
people at sri
and<01:21:40.840><c> uh</c><01:21:42.960><c> their</c><01:21:43.199><c> robotic</c><01:21:54.840><c> work</c>

01:22:00.550 --> 01:22:00.560 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:22:00.560 --> 01:22:05.030 align:start position:0%
 
well<01:22:00.719><c> i</c><01:22:00.880><c> guess</c><01:22:01.120><c> the</c><01:22:01.199><c> basic</c><01:22:01.600><c> answer</c><01:22:01.920><c> is</c><01:22:02.080><c> no</c>

01:22:05.030 --> 01:22:05.040 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:22:05.040 --> 01:22:08.550 align:start position:0%
 
and<01:22:05.360><c> my</c><01:22:05.520><c> hesitation</c><01:22:07.679><c> is</c><01:22:07.920><c> that</c><01:22:08.080><c> i'm</c><01:22:08.239><c> trying</c><01:22:08.480><c> to</c>

01:22:08.550 --> 01:22:08.560 align:start position:0%
and my hesitation is that i'm trying to
 

01:22:08.560 --> 01:22:19.750 align:start position:0%
and my hesitation is that i'm trying to
figure<01:22:08.960><c> out</c><01:22:09.199><c> why</c>

01:22:19.750 --> 01:22:19.760 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:22:19.760 --> 01:22:22.830 align:start position:0%
 
are<01:22:19.920><c> you</c><01:22:20.080><c> going</c><01:22:20.159><c> to</c><01:22:20.320><c> interview</c><01:22:20.800><c> niels</c><01:22:21.120><c> nelson</c>

01:22:22.830 --> 01:22:22.840 align:start position:0%
are you going to interview niels nelson
 

01:22:22.840 --> 01:22:51.750 align:start position:0%
are you going to interview niels nelson
yes

01:22:51.750 --> 01:22:51.760 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:22:51.760 --> 01:22:55.430 align:start position:0%
 
now

01:22:55.430 --> 01:22:55.440 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:22:55.440 --> 01:23:00.149 align:start position:0%
 
engelbart<01:22:58.000><c> said</c><01:22:58.400><c> something</c>

01:23:00.149 --> 01:23:00.159 align:start position:0%
engelbart said something
 

01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:04.310 align:start position:0%
engelbart said something
in<01:23:00.320><c> which</c><01:23:00.560><c> he</c><01:23:00.800><c> contrasted</c><01:23:01.600><c> his</c><01:23:01.840><c> motivations</c>

01:23:04.310 --> 01:23:04.320 align:start position:0%
in which he contrasted his motivations
 

01:23:04.320 --> 01:23:07.669 align:start position:0%
in which he contrasted his motivations
and<01:23:04.840><c> mind</c><01:23:06.960><c> and</c>

01:23:07.669 --> 01:23:07.679 align:start position:0%
and mind and
 

01:23:07.679 --> 01:23:11.270 align:start position:0%
and mind and
um

01:23:11.270 --> 01:23:11.280 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:23:11.280 --> 01:23:14.830 align:start position:0%
 
i<01:23:11.600><c> think</c><01:23:11.920><c> he</c><01:23:12.480><c> uh</c>

01:23:14.830 --> 01:23:14.840 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:23:14.840 --> 01:23:18.629 align:start position:0%
 
misrepresented<01:23:15.920><c> mine</c>

01:23:18.629 --> 01:23:18.639 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:23:18.639 --> 01:23:21.990 align:start position:0%
 
in<01:23:18.719><c> order</c><01:23:19.040><c> to</c><01:23:19.199><c> get</c><01:23:19.360><c> a</c><01:23:19.520><c> contrast</c>

01:23:21.990 --> 01:23:22.000 align:start position:0%
in order to get a contrast
 

01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:25.110 align:start position:0%
in order to get a contrast
he<01:23:22.159><c> was</c><01:23:22.400><c> interested</c><01:23:22.880><c> in</c><01:23:24.400><c> man-machine</c>

01:23:25.110 --> 01:23:25.120 align:start position:0%
he was interested in man-machine
 

01:23:25.120 --> 01:23:26.950 align:start position:0%
he was interested in man-machine
interaction

01:23:26.950 --> 01:23:26.960 align:start position:0%
interaction
 

01:23:26.960 --> 01:23:30.070 align:start position:0%
interaction
and<01:23:27.199><c> i</c><01:23:27.360><c> was</c><01:23:27.679><c> interested</c><01:23:28.239><c> he</c><01:23:28.480><c> said</c><01:23:28.800><c> in</c>

01:23:30.070 --> 01:23:30.080 align:start position:0%
and i was interested he said in
 

01:23:30.080 --> 01:23:34.470 align:start position:0%
and i was interested he said in
what<01:23:30.239><c> a</c><01:23:30.400><c> machine</c><01:23:30.800><c> can</c><01:23:30.960><c> do</c><01:23:31.199><c> all</c><01:23:31.360><c> by</c><01:23:32.840><c> itself</c>

01:23:34.470 --> 01:23:34.480 align:start position:0%
what a machine can do all by itself
 

01:23:34.480 --> 01:23:36.709 align:start position:0%
what a machine can do all by itself
and<01:23:34.639><c> of</c><01:23:34.719><c> course</c><01:23:35.040><c> i</c><01:23:35.120><c> was</c><01:23:35.360><c> also</c><01:23:35.840><c> interested</c><01:23:36.400><c> in</c>

01:23:36.709 --> 01:23:36.719 align:start position:0%
and of course i was also interested in
 

01:23:36.719 --> 01:23:39.510 align:start position:0%
and of course i was also interested in
machine<01:23:37.199><c> interaction</c>

01:23:39.510 --> 01:23:39.520 align:start position:0%
machine interaction
 

01:23:39.520 --> 01:23:43.110 align:start position:0%
machine interaction
time<01:23:39.840><c> sharing</c><01:23:40.560><c> was</c><01:23:42.320><c> my</c><01:23:42.639><c> big</c>

01:23:43.110 --> 01:23:43.120 align:start position:0%
time sharing was my big
 

01:23:43.120 --> 01:23:51.510 align:start position:0%
time sharing was my big
biggest<01:23:43.600><c> work</c><01:23:43.920><c> in</c><01:23:44.080><c> that</c><01:23:46.840><c> area</c>

01:23:51.510 --> 01:23:51.520 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:23:51.520 --> 01:23:53.270 align:start position:0%
 
as<01:23:51.679><c> well</c><01:23:51.920><c> as</c><01:23:52.080><c> being</c><01:23:52.400><c> interested</c><01:23:52.880><c> in</c><01:23:53.040><c> what</c><01:23:53.199><c> a</c>

01:23:53.270 --> 01:23:53.280 align:start position:0%
as well as being interested in what a
 

01:23:53.280 --> 01:24:14.830 align:start position:0%
as well as being interested in what a
machine<01:23:53.679><c> could</c><01:23:53.840><c> do</c><01:23:54.080><c> by</c><01:24:00.840><c> itself</c>

01:24:14.830 --> 01:24:14.840 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:24:14.840 --> 01:24:18.390 align:start position:0%
 
so

01:24:18.390 --> 01:24:18.400 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:24:18.400 --> 01:24:21.189 align:start position:0%
 
i<01:24:18.560><c> remember</c><01:24:19.040><c> being</c><01:24:19.360><c> very</c><01:24:20.239><c> skeptical</c><01:24:20.880><c> of</c><01:24:21.040><c> a</c>

01:24:21.189 --> 01:24:21.199 align:start position:0%
i remember being very skeptical of a
 

01:24:21.199 --> 01:24:24.950 align:start position:0%
i remember being very skeptical of a
mouse

01:24:24.950 --> 01:24:24.960 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:24:24.960 --> 01:24:28.390 align:start position:0%
 
because<01:24:25.440><c> it</c><01:24:26.239><c> was</c><01:24:26.480><c> one</c><01:24:26.800><c> more</c><01:24:27.120><c> device</c><01:24:27.920><c> having</c>

01:24:28.390 --> 01:24:28.400 align:start position:0%
because it was one more device having
 

01:24:28.400 --> 01:24:29.669 align:start position:0%
because it was one more device having
followed

01:24:29.669 --> 01:24:29.679 align:start position:0%
followed
 

01:24:29.679 --> 01:24:33.189 align:start position:0%
followed
the<01:24:29.920><c> light</c><01:24:30.239><c> pen</c><01:24:30.719><c> and</c><01:24:30.960><c> so</c><01:24:31.280><c> forth</c>

01:24:33.189 --> 01:24:33.199 align:start position:0%
the light pen and so forth
 

01:24:33.199 --> 01:24:35.669 align:start position:0%
the light pen and so forth
it<01:24:33.360><c> took</c><01:24:33.600><c> me</c><01:24:33.760><c> a</c><01:24:33.840><c> while</c><01:24:34.159><c> to</c><01:24:34.400><c> realize</c><01:24:34.960><c> it</c><01:24:35.280><c> yes</c><01:24:35.520><c> but</c>

01:24:35.669 --> 01:24:35.679 align:start position:0%
it took me a while to realize it yes but
 

01:24:35.679 --> 01:24:51.350 align:start position:0%
it took me a while to realize it yes but
the<01:24:35.840><c> mouse</c><01:24:36.159><c> was</c><01:24:36.400><c> much</c><01:24:42.840><c> better</c>

01:24:51.350 --> 01:24:51.360 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:24:51.360 --> 01:24:52.629 align:start position:0%
 
do<01:24:51.440><c> you</c><01:24:51.520><c> have</c><01:24:51.679><c> any</c><01:24:51.840><c> stories</c><01:24:52.239><c> you'd</c><01:24:52.320><c> like</c><01:24:52.480><c> to</c>

01:24:52.629 --> 01:24:52.639 align:start position:0%
do you have any stories you'd like to
 

01:24:52.639 --> 01:24:54.390 align:start position:0%
do you have any stories you'd like to
share<01:24:52.880><c> about</c><01:24:53.440><c> working</c><01:24:53.840><c> with</c>

01:24:54.390 --> 01:24:54.400 align:start position:0%
share about working with
 

01:24:54.400 --> 01:25:10.470 align:start position:0%
share about working with
marvin<01:24:56.840><c> minsky</c>

01:25:10.470 --> 01:25:10.480 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:25:10.480 --> 01:25:24.830 align:start position:0%
 
no<01:25:10.800><c> basically</c><01:25:11.440><c> minsky</c><01:25:11.920><c> and</c><01:25:12.080><c> i</c><01:25:13.280><c> work</c>

01:25:24.830 --> 01:25:24.840 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:25:24.840 --> 01:25:30.550 align:start position:0%
 
separately

01:25:30.550 --> 01:25:30.560 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:25:30.560 --> 01:25:32.950 align:start position:0%
 
what<01:25:30.719><c> would</c><01:25:30.960><c> newell</c><01:25:31.360><c> and</c><01:25:31.520><c> simon</c><01:25:31.920><c> like</c><01:25:32.480><c> uh</c><01:25:32.800><c> to</c>

01:25:32.950 --> 01:25:32.960 align:start position:0%
what would newell and simon like uh to
 

01:25:32.960 --> 01:25:33.830 align:start position:0%
what would newell and simon like uh to
interact<01:25:33.440><c> with</c>

01:25:33.830 --> 01:25:33.840 align:start position:0%
interact with
 

01:25:33.840 --> 01:25:37.030 align:start position:0%
interact with
his<01:25:34.159><c> colleagues</c><01:25:36.239><c> what</c>

01:25:37.030 --> 01:25:37.040 align:start position:0%
his colleagues what
 

01:25:37.040 --> 01:25:39.189 align:start position:0%
his colleagues what
what<01:25:37.440><c> was</c><01:25:37.600><c> it</c><01:25:37.679><c> like</c><01:25:38.000><c> interacting</c><01:25:38.480><c> with</c><01:25:38.800><c> newell</c>

01:25:39.189 --> 01:25:39.199 align:start position:0%
what was it like interacting with newell
 

01:25:39.199 --> 01:25:40.550 align:start position:0%
what was it like interacting with newell
and<01:25:39.280><c> simon</c>

01:25:40.550 --> 01:25:40.560 align:start position:0%
and simon
 

01:25:40.560 --> 01:26:00.950 align:start position:0%
and simon
in<01:25:41.040><c> the</c><01:25:41.199><c> early</c><01:25:52.840><c> days</c>

01:26:00.950 --> 01:26:00.960 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:26:00.960 --> 01:26:04.229 align:start position:0%
 
well

01:26:04.229 --> 01:26:04.239 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:26:04.239 --> 01:26:08.229 align:start position:0%
 
i<01:26:04.560><c> annoyed</c><01:26:06.840><c> them</c>

01:26:08.229 --> 01:26:08.239 align:start position:0%
i annoyed them
 

01:26:08.239 --> 01:26:13.030 align:start position:0%
i annoyed them
rats<01:26:08.880><c> on</c><01:26:09.040><c> a</c><01:26:09.199><c> specific</c><01:26:09.840><c> occasion</c>

01:26:13.030 --> 01:26:13.040 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:26:13.040 --> 01:26:16.470 align:start position:0%
 
and<01:26:13.600><c> they</c><01:26:13.760><c> were</c><01:26:13.960><c> justifiably</c><01:26:14.960><c> annoyed</c>

01:26:16.470 --> 01:26:16.480 align:start position:0%
and they were justifiably annoyed
 

01:26:16.480 --> 01:26:20.830 align:start position:0%
and they were justifiably annoyed
but<01:26:16.719><c> not</c><01:26:16.960><c> necessarily</c><01:26:17.840><c> with</c><01:26:18.080><c> me</c>

01:26:20.830 --> 01:26:20.840 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:26:20.840 --> 01:26:26.629 align:start position:0%
 
ah<01:26:22.560><c> in</c><01:26:22.800><c> september</c><01:26:23.440><c> of</c><01:26:23.880><c> 1956</c>

01:26:26.629 --> 01:26:26.639 align:start position:0%
ah in september of 1956
 

01:26:26.639 --> 01:26:29.750 align:start position:0%
ah in september of 1956
there<01:26:26.880><c> was</c><01:26:27.120><c> a</c><01:26:27.199><c> meeting</c>

01:26:29.750 --> 01:26:29.760 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:26:29.760 --> 01:26:32.950 align:start position:0%
 
maybe<01:26:30.239><c> of</c><01:26:30.400><c> ieee</c><01:26:31.280><c> or</c><01:26:31.440><c> maybe</c><01:26:31.679><c> it</c><01:26:31.840><c> was</c><01:26:32.000><c> called</c><01:26:32.320><c> ire</c>

01:26:32.950 --> 01:26:32.960 align:start position:0%
maybe of ieee or maybe it was called ire
 

01:26:32.960 --> 01:26:34.790 align:start position:0%
maybe of ieee or maybe it was called ire
in<01:26:33.120><c> those</c><01:26:33.520><c> days</c>

01:26:34.790 --> 01:26:34.800 align:start position:0%
in those days
 

01:26:34.800 --> 01:26:40.149 align:start position:0%
in those days
in<01:26:35.040><c> boston</c><01:26:36.960><c> and</c><01:26:37.199><c> i</c><01:26:37.440><c> was</c><01:26:37.760><c> invited</c><01:26:38.320><c> to</c><01:26:38.560><c> give</c>

01:26:40.149 --> 01:26:40.159 align:start position:0%
in boston and i was invited to give
 

01:26:40.159 --> 01:26:43.750 align:start position:0%
in boston and i was invited to give
a<01:26:40.400><c> talk</c><01:26:40.960><c> on</c><01:26:41.199><c> the</c><01:26:41.440><c> dartmouth</c><01:26:42.000><c> summer</c>

01:26:43.750 --> 01:26:43.760 align:start position:0%
a talk on the dartmouth summer
 

01:26:43.760 --> 01:26:47.990 align:start position:0%
a talk on the dartmouth summer
project<01:26:46.560><c> and</c><01:26:46.719><c> the</c>

01:26:47.990 --> 01:26:48.000 align:start position:0%
project and the
 

01:26:48.000 --> 01:26:52.950 align:start position:0%
project and the
state<01:26:48.320><c> of</c><01:26:48.840><c> a.i</c>

01:26:52.950 --> 01:26:52.960 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:26:52.960 --> 01:27:02.830 align:start position:0%
 
and

01:27:02.830 --> 01:27:02.840 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:27:02.840 --> 01:27:05.430 align:start position:0%
 
i

01:27:05.430 --> 01:27:05.440 align:start position:0%
i
 

01:27:05.440 --> 01:27:10.070 align:start position:0%
i
told<01:27:05.760><c> what</c><01:27:06.000><c> i</c><01:27:06.239><c> knew</c>

01:27:10.070 --> 01:27:10.080 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:27:10.080 --> 01:27:16.229 align:start position:0%
 
but<01:27:10.320><c> in</c><01:27:10.400><c> terms</c><01:27:10.719><c> of</c><01:27:10.960><c> actual</c><01:27:11.440><c> implement</c><01:27:12.000><c> of</c><01:27:12.239><c> a.i</c>

01:27:16.229 --> 01:27:16.239 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:27:16.239 --> 01:27:44.830 align:start position:0%
 
they<01:27:16.400><c> were</c><01:27:16.639><c> ahead</c><01:27:16.960><c> of</c><01:27:17.120><c> us</c>

01:27:44.830 --> 01:27:44.840 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:27:44.840 --> 01:28:11.590 align:start position:0%
 
um

01:28:11.590 --> 01:28:11.600 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:28:11.600 --> 01:28:15.110 align:start position:0%
 
and<01:28:13.360><c> if</c><01:28:13.600><c> uh</c><01:28:14.080><c> if</c><01:28:14.239><c> there</c><01:28:14.400><c> were</c><01:28:14.560><c> young</c><01:28:14.800><c> people</c>

01:28:15.110 --> 01:28:15.120 align:start position:0%
and if uh if there were young people
 

01:28:15.120 --> 01:28:16.950 align:start position:0%
and if uh if there were young people
interested<01:28:15.600><c> in</c><01:28:15.760><c> pursuing</c>

01:28:16.950 --> 01:28:16.960 align:start position:0%
interested in pursuing
 

01:28:16.960 --> 01:28:18.790 align:start position:0%
interested in pursuing
careers<01:28:17.360><c> in</c><01:28:17.520><c> artificial</c><01:28:18.000><c> intelligence</c><01:28:18.639><c> and</c>

01:28:18.790 --> 01:28:18.800 align:start position:0%
careers in artificial intelligence and
 

01:28:18.800 --> 01:28:21.189 align:start position:0%
careers in artificial intelligence and
robotics<01:28:19.920><c> what</c><01:28:20.080><c> would</c><01:28:20.239><c> you</c><01:28:20.400><c> recommend</c>

01:28:21.189 --> 01:28:21.199 align:start position:0%
robotics what would you recommend
 

01:28:21.199 --> 01:28:24.709 align:start position:0%
robotics what would you recommend
to<01:28:21.360><c> them</c><01:28:21.679><c> to</c><01:28:21.840><c> study</c><01:28:22.320><c> and</c><01:28:23.600><c> pursue</c><01:28:23.920><c> a</c><01:28:24.080><c> career</c>

01:28:24.709 --> 01:28:24.719 align:start position:0%
to them to study and pursue a career
 

01:28:24.719 --> 01:28:31.750 align:start position:0%
to them to study and pursue a career
what<01:28:24.880><c> kind</c><01:28:25.040><c> of</c><01:28:25.520><c> advice</c><01:28:25.840><c> would</c><01:28:26.000><c> you</c><01:28:26.159><c> give</c><01:28:26.840><c> them</c>

01:28:31.750 --> 01:28:31.760 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:28:31.760 --> 01:28:44.310 align:start position:0%
 
depends<01:28:32.239><c> on</c><01:28:32.400><c> how</c><01:28:32.560><c> good</c><01:28:32.800><c> they</c><01:28:40.840><c> are</c>

01:28:44.310 --> 01:28:44.320 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:28:44.320 --> 01:28:50.229 align:start position:0%
 
if<01:28:44.560><c> there</c><01:28:44.800><c> is</c><01:28:45.000><c> self-confidence</c><01:28:47.120><c> as</c><01:28:47.440><c> i</c><01:28:47.600><c> was</c>

01:28:50.229 --> 01:28:50.239 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:28:50.239 --> 01:28:54.310 align:start position:0%
 
then<01:28:50.719><c> uh</c><01:28:53.120><c> i</c><01:28:53.280><c> would</c><01:28:53.520><c> recommend</c><01:28:53.840><c> that</c><01:28:54.000><c> i</c>

01:28:54.310 --> 01:28:54.320 align:start position:0%
then uh i would recommend that i
 

01:28:54.320 --> 01:28:55.910 align:start position:0%
then uh i would recommend that i
recommend<01:28:54.880><c> to</c><01:28:55.040><c> them</c><01:28:55.280><c> don't</c><01:28:55.520><c> pay</c><01:28:55.679><c> any</c>

01:28:55.910 --> 01:28:55.920 align:start position:0%
recommend to them don't pay any
 

01:28:55.920 --> 01:28:57.430 align:start position:0%
recommend to them don't pay any
attention<01:28:56.400><c> to</c><01:28:56.560><c> anybody's</c>

01:28:57.430 --> 01:28:57.440 align:start position:0%
attention to anybody's
 

01:28:57.440 --> 01:29:00.629 align:start position:0%
attention to anybody's
advice<01:28:59.040><c> think</c><01:28:59.280><c> of</c><01:28:59.440><c> it</c><01:28:59.520><c> for</c><01:28:59.760><c> yourself</c>

01:29:00.629 --> 01:29:00.639 align:start position:0%
advice think of it for yourself
 

01:29:00.639 --> 01:29:07.750 align:start position:0%
advice think of it for yourself
about<01:29:00.960><c> it</c><01:29:01.120><c> for</c><01:29:01.280><c> yourself</c>

01:29:07.750 --> 01:29:07.760 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:29:07.760 --> 01:29:11.750 align:start position:0%
 
i<01:29:08.000><c> think</c><01:29:08.239><c> ai</c><01:29:08.639><c> needs</c><01:29:09.040><c> new</c><01:29:09.280><c> ideas</c>

01:29:11.750 --> 01:29:11.760 align:start position:0%
i think ai needs new ideas
 

01:29:11.760 --> 01:29:14.070 align:start position:0%
i think ai needs new ideas
and<01:29:12.159><c> it's</c><01:29:12.480><c> most</c><01:29:12.719><c> likely</c><01:29:13.120><c> to</c><01:29:13.280><c> come</c><01:29:13.520><c> from</c><01:29:13.760><c> new</c>

01:29:14.070 --> 01:29:14.080 align:start position:0%
and it's most likely to come from new
 

01:29:14.080 --> 01:29:19.990 align:start position:0%
and it's most likely to come from new
people

01:29:19.990 --> 01:29:20.000 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:22.149 align:start position:0%
 
the<01:29:20.239><c> probability</c><01:29:21.040><c> that</c><01:29:21.280><c> it</c><01:29:21.440><c> will</c><01:29:21.600><c> come</c><01:29:21.840><c> from</c>

01:29:22.149 --> 01:29:22.159 align:start position:0%
the probability that it will come from
 

01:29:22.159 --> 01:29:24.870 align:start position:0%
the probability that it will come from
someone<01:29:22.480><c> who</c><01:29:22.719><c> is</c><01:29:22.880><c> 83</c>

01:29:24.870 --> 01:29:24.880 align:start position:0%
someone who is 83
 

01:29:24.880 --> 01:29:27.990 align:start position:0%
someone who is 83
very<01:29:25.199><c> unlikely</c>

01:29:27.990 --> 01:29:28.000 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:33.110 align:start position:0%
 
although<01:29:28.480><c> i</c><01:29:28.639><c> just</c><01:29:28.880><c> read</c>

01:29:33.110 --> 01:29:33.120 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:29:33.120 --> 01:29:36.149 align:start position:0%
 
in<01:29:33.280><c> the</c><01:29:33.360><c> new</c><01:29:33.520><c> york</c><01:29:33.840><c> times</c><01:29:35.920><c> an</c>

01:29:36.149 --> 01:29:36.159 align:start position:0%
in the new york times an
 

01:29:36.159 --> 01:29:38.550 align:start position:0%
in the new york times an
obituary<01:29:37.040><c> of</c><01:29:37.199><c> someone</c><01:29:37.520><c> who</c><01:29:37.760><c> died</c><01:29:38.080><c> at</c><01:29:38.159><c> the</c><01:29:38.320><c> age</c>

01:29:38.550 --> 01:29:38.560 align:start position:0%
obituary of someone who died at the age
 

01:29:38.560 --> 01:29:41.669 align:start position:0%
obituary of someone who died at the age
of<01:29:38.719><c> 97</c>

01:29:41.669 --> 01:29:41.679 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:29:41.679 --> 01:29:44.070 align:start position:0%
 
who<01:29:41.920><c> is</c><01:29:42.159><c> most</c><01:29:42.560><c> famous</c><01:29:43.040><c> for</c><01:29:43.360><c> something</c><01:29:43.679><c> that</c><01:29:43.840><c> he</c>

01:29:44.070 --> 01:29:44.080 align:start position:0%
who is most famous for something that he
 

01:29:44.080 --> 01:30:00.950 align:start position:0%
who is most famous for something that he
did<01:29:44.400><c> after</c><01:29:44.719><c> the</c><01:29:44.960><c> age</c><01:29:45.120><c> of</c><01:29:50.840><c> 90.</c>

01:30:00.950 --> 01:30:00.960 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:30:00.960 --> 01:30:02.629 align:start position:0%
 
could<01:30:01.199><c> you</c><01:30:01.520><c> tell</c><01:30:01.760><c> us</c><01:30:01.920><c> just</c><01:30:02.159><c> a</c><01:30:02.239><c> little</c><01:30:02.480><c> bit</c>

01:30:02.629 --> 01:30:02.639 align:start position:0%
could you tell us just a little bit
 

01:30:02.639 --> 01:30:05.350 align:start position:0%
could you tell us just a little bit
about<01:30:03.360><c> some</c><01:30:03.600><c> of</c><01:30:03.760><c> the</c><01:30:03.920><c> challenges</c><01:30:04.719><c> that</c><01:30:04.880><c> you've</c>

01:30:05.350 --> 01:30:05.360 align:start position:0%
about some of the challenges that you've
 

01:30:05.360 --> 01:30:07.030 align:start position:0%
about some of the challenges that you've
an<01:30:05.520><c> ai</c><01:30:05.840><c> and</c><01:30:05.920><c> robotics</c><01:30:06.400><c> that</c><01:30:06.560><c> you</c>

01:30:07.030 --> 01:30:07.040 align:start position:0%
an ai and robotics that you
 

01:30:07.040 --> 01:30:09.030 align:start position:0%
an ai and robotics that you
think<01:30:07.280><c> are</c><01:30:07.360><c> the</c><01:30:07.520><c> most</c><01:30:07.840><c> important</c><01:30:08.400><c> ones</c><01:30:08.800><c> you've</c>

01:30:09.030 --> 01:30:09.040 align:start position:0%
think are the most important ones you've
 

01:30:09.040 --> 01:30:10.950 align:start position:0%
think are the most important ones you've
seen<01:30:09.360><c> solved</c><01:30:09.840><c> and</c>

01:30:10.950 --> 01:30:10.960 align:start position:0%
seen solved and
 

01:30:10.960 --> 01:30:46.830 align:start position:0%
seen solved and
others<01:30:11.360><c> that</c><01:30:11.600><c> are</c><01:30:18.840><c> pending</c>

01:30:46.830 --> 01:30:46.840 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:30:46.840 --> 01:31:28.830 align:start position:0%
 
me<01:31:00.840><c> so</c>

01:31:28.830 --> 01:31:28.840 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:31:28.840 --> 01:31:35.830 align:start position:0%
 
so

01:31:35.830 --> 01:31:35.840 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:31:35.840 --> 01:31:46.390 align:start position:0%
 
oh<01:31:42.840><c> no</c>

01:31:46.390 --> 01:31:46.400 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:31:46.400 --> 01:31:51.189 align:start position:0%
 
sometimes<01:31:46.960><c> i</c><01:31:47.199><c> feel</c><01:31:49.199><c> i</c><01:31:49.520><c> mean</c><01:31:49.760><c> i</c><01:31:49.840><c> do</c><01:31:50.080><c> feel</c>

01:31:51.189 --> 01:31:51.199 align:start position:0%
sometimes i feel i mean i do feel
 

01:31:51.199 --> 01:31:55.030 align:start position:0%
sometimes i feel i mean i do feel
what<01:31:51.440><c> harrison</c><01:31:52.000><c> schmidt</c><01:31:52.719><c> said</c><01:31:52.960><c> about</c><01:31:53.760><c> nasa</c>

01:31:55.030 --> 01:31:55.040 align:start position:0%
what harrison schmidt said about nasa
 

01:31:55.040 --> 01:32:02.709 align:start position:0%
what harrison schmidt said about nasa
did<01:31:55.199><c> you</c><01:31:55.360><c> read</c><01:31:55.520><c> that</c>

01:32:02.709 --> 01:32:02.719 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:32:02.719 --> 01:32:04.709 align:start position:0%
 
the<01:32:02.880><c> only</c><01:32:03.280><c> scientist</c><01:32:03.840><c> to</c><01:32:03.920><c> ever</c><01:32:04.159><c> walk</c><01:32:04.480><c> on</c><01:32:04.639><c> the</c>

01:32:04.709 --> 01:32:04.719 align:start position:0%
the only scientist to ever walk on the
 

01:32:04.719 --> 01:32:06.709 align:start position:0%
the only scientist to ever walk on the
moon

01:32:06.709 --> 01:32:06.719 align:start position:0%
moon
 

01:32:06.719 --> 01:32:10.550 align:start position:0%
moon
is<01:32:06.960><c> a</c><01:32:07.040><c> geologist</c>

01:32:10.550 --> 01:32:10.560 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:32:10.560 --> 01:32:13.590 align:start position:0%
 
he<01:32:10.719><c> said</c><01:32:11.040><c> nasa</c>

01:32:13.590 --> 01:32:13.600 align:start position:0%
he said nasa
 

01:32:13.600 --> 01:32:16.950 align:start position:0%
he said nasa
should<01:32:13.840><c> be</c><01:32:14.000><c> abolished</c>

01:32:16.950 --> 01:32:16.960 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:32:16.960 --> 01:32:21.990 align:start position:0%
 
and<01:32:19.040><c> we</c><01:32:19.360><c> started</c>

01:32:21.990 --> 01:32:22.000 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:32:22.000 --> 01:32:25.750 align:start position:0%
 
with<01:32:22.239><c> complete</c><01:32:22.800><c> wish</c><01:32:24.960><c> well</c><01:32:25.199><c> now</c><01:32:25.440><c> i'm</c>

01:32:25.750 --> 01:32:25.760 align:start position:0%
with complete wish well now i'm
 

01:32:25.760 --> 01:32:26.550 align:start position:0%
with complete wish well now i'm
forgetting

01:32:26.550 --> 01:32:26.560 align:start position:0%
forgetting
 

01:32:26.560 --> 01:32:29.110 align:start position:0%
forgetting
exactly<01:32:27.120><c> what</c><01:32:27.280><c> he</c><01:32:27.520><c> said</c><01:32:27.840><c> and</c><01:32:27.920><c> what</c><01:32:28.159><c> i</c><01:32:28.400><c> think</c>

01:32:29.110 --> 01:32:29.120 align:start position:0%
exactly what he said and what i think
 

01:32:29.120 --> 01:32:34.470 align:start position:0%
exactly what he said and what i think
started<01:32:29.520><c> with</c><01:32:29.679><c> new</c><01:32:29.920><c> people</c>

01:32:34.470 --> 01:32:34.480 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:32:34.480 --> 01:32:39.590 align:start position:0%
 
because<01:32:35.520><c> we</c><01:32:35.760><c> started</c><01:32:36.159><c> with</c><01:32:36.400><c> young</c><01:32:36.800><c> people</c>

01:32:39.590 --> 01:32:39.600 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:32:39.600 --> 01:32:49.270 align:start position:0%
 
and<01:32:39.760><c> now</c><01:32:40.000><c> they've</c><01:32:40.239><c> grown</c><01:32:40.639><c> old</c>

01:32:49.270 --> 01:32:49.280 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:32:49.280 --> 01:32:51.189 align:start position:0%
 
do<01:32:49.360><c> you</c><01:32:49.520><c> think</c><01:32:49.760><c> robotics</c><01:32:50.400><c> is</c><01:32:50.560><c> a</c><01:32:50.719><c> sort</c><01:32:50.880><c> of</c><01:32:51.040><c> new</c>

01:32:51.189 --> 01:32:51.199 align:start position:0%
do you think robotics is a sort of new
 

01:32:51.199 --> 01:32:54.870 align:start position:0%
do you think robotics is a sort of new
way<01:32:51.440><c> to</c><01:32:52.080><c> to</c><01:32:52.239><c> restart</c><01:32:52.800><c> some</c><01:32:53.040><c> of</c><01:32:53.840><c> what</c><01:32:54.080><c> ai</c><01:32:54.400><c> was</c>

01:32:54.870 --> 01:32:54.880 align:start position:0%
way to to restart some of what ai was
 

01:32:54.880 --> 01:32:57.669 align:start position:0%
way to to restart some of what ai was
aiming<01:32:55.199><c> towards</c><01:32:55.520><c> in</c><01:32:55.679><c> the</c><01:32:55.760><c> beginning</c><01:32:57.360><c> well</c><01:32:57.600><c> i</c>

01:32:57.669 --> 01:32:57.679 align:start position:0%
aiming towards in the beginning well i
 

01:32:57.679 --> 01:32:58.950 align:start position:0%
aiming towards in the beginning well i
don't<01:32:57.920><c> even</c><01:32:58.239><c> know</c><01:32:58.480><c> how</c>

01:32:58.950 --> 01:32:58.960 align:start position:0%
don't even know how
 

01:32:58.960 --> 01:33:00.790 align:start position:0%
don't even know how
the<01:32:59.120><c> leading</c><01:32:59.520><c> people</c><01:32:59.840><c> that</c><01:33:00.080><c> i</c><01:33:00.239><c> uh</c><01:33:00.560><c> and</c>

01:33:00.790 --> 01:33:00.800 align:start position:0%
the leading people that i uh and
 

01:33:00.800 --> 01:33:02.870 align:start position:0%
the leading people that i uh and
robotics<01:33:01.520><c> are</c>

01:33:02.870 --> 01:33:02.880 align:start position:0%
robotics are
 

01:33:02.880 --> 01:33:05.270 align:start position:0%
robotics are
so<01:33:03.199><c> i</c><01:33:03.360><c> can't</c><01:33:03.600><c> even</c><01:33:04.000><c> say</c><01:33:04.239><c> that</c><01:33:04.480><c> thing</c><01:33:04.800><c> because</c><01:33:05.120><c> i</c>

01:33:05.270 --> 01:33:05.280 align:start position:0%
so i can't even say that thing because i
 

01:33:05.280 --> 01:33:16.229 align:start position:0%
so i can't even say that thing because i
don't<01:33:06.840><c> know</c>

01:33:16.229 --> 01:33:16.239 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:33:16.239 --> 01:33:18.229 align:start position:0%
 
there<01:33:16.480><c> is</c><01:33:16.639><c> just</c><01:33:16.880><c> a</c><01:33:16.960><c> big</c><01:33:17.280><c> conference</c><01:33:17.920><c> on</c>

01:33:18.229 --> 01:33:18.239 align:start position:0%
there is just a big conference on
 

01:33:18.239 --> 01:33:21.030 align:start position:0%
there is just a big conference on
non-monotonic<01:33:19.280><c> reasoning</c><01:33:19.760><c> and</c>

01:33:21.030 --> 01:33:21.040 align:start position:0%
non-monotonic reasoning and
 

01:33:21.040 --> 01:33:25.669 align:start position:0%
non-monotonic reasoning and
held<01:33:21.440><c> in</c><01:33:21.920><c> lexington</c><01:33:22.639><c> and</c><01:33:23.440><c> kentucky</c>

01:33:25.669 --> 01:33:25.679 align:start position:0%
held in lexington and kentucky
 

01:33:25.679 --> 01:33:30.629 align:start position:0%
held in lexington and kentucky
and<01:33:26.400><c> i</c><01:33:26.639><c> should</c><01:33:26.800><c> have</c><01:33:27.040><c> gone</c><01:33:27.600><c> but</c>

01:33:30.629 --> 01:33:30.639 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:33:30.639 --> 01:33:38.310 align:start position:0%
 
i'm<01:33:30.800><c> not</c><01:33:31.040><c> very</c><01:33:31.360><c> mobile</c><01:33:31.840><c> these</c><01:33:32.159><c> days</c><01:33:32.560><c> didn't</c><01:33:34.840><c> go</c>

01:33:38.310 --> 01:33:38.320 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:33:38.320 --> 01:33:41.750 align:start position:0%
 
i<01:33:38.639><c> got</c><01:33:38.960><c> a</c><01:33:39.520><c> greeting</c><01:33:40.159><c> on</c><01:33:40.400><c> it</c>

01:33:41.750 --> 01:33:41.760 align:start position:0%
i got a greeting on it
 

01:33:41.760 --> 01:33:49.350 align:start position:0%
i got a greeting on it
signed<01:33:42.239><c> by</c><01:33:42.560><c> about</c><01:33:42.800><c> 100</c><01:33:43.280><c> people</c>

01:33:49.350 --> 01:33:49.360 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:33:49.360 --> 01:33:56.709 align:start position:0%
 
about<01:33:52.239><c> half</c><01:33:52.560><c> of</c><01:33:52.639><c> the</c><01:33:52.800><c> names</c><01:33:53.199><c> i</c><01:33:53.440><c> recognize</c>

01:33:56.709 --> 01:33:56.719 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:33:56.719 --> 01:34:16.550 align:start position:0%
 
which<01:33:56.960><c> worries</c><01:33:57.440><c> me</c><01:33:57.600><c> it</c><01:33:57.679><c> may</c><01:33:57.840><c> be</c><01:33:58.080><c> too</c><01:34:02.840><c> many</c>

01:34:16.550 --> 01:34:16.560 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:34:16.560 --> 01:34:18.950 align:start position:0%
 
okay<01:34:17.120><c> well</c><01:34:17.360><c> i</c><01:34:17.440><c> think</c><01:34:17.679><c> that's</c><01:34:18.239><c> just</c><01:34:18.480><c> what</c><01:34:18.719><c> does</c>

01:34:18.950 --> 01:34:18.960 align:start position:0%
okay well i think that's just what does
 

01:34:18.960 --> 01:34:20.470 align:start position:0%
okay well i think that's just what does
it<01:34:19.120><c> unless</c><01:34:19.440><c> there's</c><01:34:19.600><c> anything</c><01:34:19.920><c> you'd</c><01:34:20.080><c> like</c><01:34:20.320><c> to</c>

01:34:20.470 --> 01:34:20.480 align:start position:0%
it unless there's anything you'd like to
 

01:34:20.480 --> 01:34:22.790 align:start position:0%
it unless there's anything you'd like to
add

01:34:22.790 --> 01:34:22.800 align:start position:0%
add
 

01:34:22.800 --> 01:34:25.830 align:start position:0%
add
no<01:34:23.040><c> that's</c><01:34:23.280><c> fine</c>

01:34:25.830 --> 01:34:25.840 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:34:25.840 --> 01:34:43.830 align:start position:0%
 
thank<01:34:26.000><c> you</c><01:34:26.239><c> very</c><01:34:26.400><c> much</c><01:34:27.520><c> thank</c><01:34:30.840><c> you</c>

01:34:43.830 --> 01:34:43.840 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:34:43.840 --> 01:34:45.669 align:start position:0%
 
well<01:34:44.080><c> i</c><01:34:44.159><c> was</c><01:34:44.480><c> quite</c><01:34:44.719><c> prepared</c><01:34:45.199><c> to</c><01:34:45.280><c> believe</c>

01:34:45.669 --> 01:34:45.679 align:start position:0%
well i was quite prepared to believe
 

01:34:45.679 --> 01:34:47.030 align:start position:0%
well i was quite prepared to believe
that

01:34:47.030 --> 01:34:47.040 align:start position:0%
that
 

01:34:47.040 --> 01:34:51.590 align:start position:0%
that
because<01:34:48.400><c> when</c><01:34:48.639><c> i</c><01:34:48.880><c> wrote</c><01:34:49.199><c> the</c><01:34:49.360><c> thing</c><01:34:49.679><c> down</c>

01:34:51.590 --> 01:34:51.600 align:start position:0%
because when i wrote the thing down
 

01:34:51.600 --> 01:34:55.350 align:start position:0%
because when i wrote the thing down
in<01:34:51.920><c> in</c><01:34:52.080><c> this</c><01:34:52.320><c> august</c><01:34:52.719><c> 31st</c><01:34:53.480><c> 1955</c>

01:34:55.350 --> 01:34:55.360 align:start position:0%
in in this august 31st 1955
 

01:34:55.360 --> 01:34:58.470 align:start position:0%
in in this august 31st 1955
trump<01:34:55.679><c> i</c><01:34:55.760><c> was</c><01:34:55.920><c> home</c><01:34:58.080><c> i</c>

01:34:58.470 --> 01:34:58.480 align:start position:0%
trump i was home i
 

01:34:58.480 --> 01:35:01.990 align:start position:0%
trump i was home i
wasn't<01:34:58.880><c> absolutely</c><01:34:59.679><c> sure</c><01:35:00.239><c> that</c>

01:35:01.990 --> 01:35:02.000 align:start position:0%
wasn't absolutely sure that
 

01:35:02.000 --> 01:35:05.669 align:start position:0%
wasn't absolutely sure that
i<01:35:02.159><c> hadn't</c><01:35:02.480><c> heard</c><01:35:02.719><c> the</c><01:35:02.880><c> term</c><01:35:03.199><c> somewhere</c><01:35:03.760><c> else</c>

01:35:05.669 --> 01:35:05.679 align:start position:0%
i hadn't heard the term somewhere else
 

01:35:05.679 --> 01:35:09.590 align:start position:0%
i hadn't heard the term somewhere else
and<01:35:06.320><c> uh</c><01:35:06.639><c> at</c><01:35:06.880><c> least</c><01:35:07.119><c> it's</c><01:35:07.360><c> something</c><01:35:07.679><c> i</c><01:35:07.920><c> wrote</c>

01:35:09.590 --> 01:35:09.600 align:start position:0%
and uh at least it's something i wrote
 

01:35:09.600 --> 01:35:12.870 align:start position:0%
and uh at least it's something i wrote
later<01:35:09.920><c> on</c><01:35:10.239><c> i</c><01:35:10.480><c> said</c><01:35:10.800><c> i</c><01:35:10.880><c> wasn't</c><01:35:11.280><c> sure</c><01:35:11.520><c> of</c><01:35:11.679><c> that</c>

01:35:12.870 --> 01:35:12.880 align:start position:0%
later on i said i wasn't sure of that
 

01:35:12.880 --> 01:35:16.229 align:start position:0%
later on i said i wasn't sure of that
with<01:35:13.119><c> anybody</c><01:35:13.600><c> who</c><01:35:13.840><c> knew</c><01:35:14.000><c> it</c><01:35:15.199><c> so</c><01:35:15.440><c> he</c><01:35:15.679><c> said</c><01:35:15.920><c> he'd</c>

01:35:16.229 --> 01:35:16.239 align:start position:0%
with anybody who knew it so he said he'd
 

01:35:16.239 --> 01:35:17.510 align:start position:0%
with anybody who knew it so he said he'd
invented<01:35:16.719><c> it</c>

01:35:17.510 --> 01:35:17.520 align:start position:0%
invented it
 

01:35:17.520 --> 01:35:19.109 align:start position:0%
invented it
but<01:35:17.679><c> then</c><01:35:17.840><c> he</c><01:35:18.080><c> said</c><01:35:18.239><c> he</c><01:35:18.400><c> would</c><01:35:18.560><c> invent</c><01:35:18.880><c> it</c><01:35:19.040><c> in</c>

01:35:19.109 --> 01:35:19.119 align:start position:0%
but then he said he would invent it in
 

01:35:19.119 --> 01:35:22.070 align:start position:0%
but then he said he would invent it in
the<01:35:19.280><c> spring</c><01:35:19.679><c> of</c><01:35:20.040><c> 1956</c>

01:35:22.070 --> 01:35:22.080 align:start position:0%
the spring of 1956
 

01:35:22.080 --> 01:35:24.070 align:start position:0%
the spring of 1956
which<01:35:22.400><c> was</c><01:35:22.639><c> of</c><01:35:22.719><c> course</c><01:35:23.119><c> quite</c><01:35:23.280><c> a</c><01:35:23.360><c> long</c><01:35:23.679><c> time</c>

01:35:24.070 --> 01:35:24.080 align:start position:0%
which was of course quite a long time
 

01:35:24.080 --> 01:35:25.430 align:start position:0%
which was of course quite a long time
after

01:35:25.430 --> 01:35:25.440 align:start position:0%
after
 

01:35:25.440 --> 01:35:28.950 align:start position:0%
after
the<01:35:25.679><c> call</c><01:35:26.000><c> for</c><01:35:26.840><c> um</c><01:35:28.239><c> that's</c><01:35:28.480><c> something</c>

01:35:28.950 --> 01:35:28.960 align:start position:0%
the call for um that's something
 

01:35:28.960 --> 01:35:31.350 align:start position:0%
the call for um that's something
the<01:35:29.600><c> dartmouth</c><01:35:30.000><c> conference</c><01:35:30.560><c> had</c><01:35:30.719><c> gone</c><01:35:31.119><c> out</c>

01:35:31.350 --> 01:35:31.360 align:start position:0%
the dartmouth conference had gone out
 

01:35:31.360 --> 01:35:32.470 align:start position:0%
the dartmouth conference had gone out
and

01:35:32.470 --> 01:35:32.480 align:start position:0%
and
 

01:35:32.480 --> 01:35:34.629 align:start position:0%
and
all<01:35:32.719><c> sorts</c><01:35:33.040><c> of</c><01:35:33.119><c> people</c><01:35:33.520><c> had</c><01:35:33.760><c> accepted</c><01:35:34.400><c> the</c>

01:35:34.629 --> 01:35:34.639 align:start position:0%
all sorts of people had accepted the
 

01:35:34.639 --> 01:35:37.350 align:start position:0%
all sorts of people had accepted the
invitation

01:35:37.350 --> 01:35:37.360 align:start position:0%
invitation
 

01:35:37.360 --> 01:35:39.350 align:start position:0%
invitation
and<01:35:37.520><c> i</c><01:35:37.600><c> said</c><01:35:37.760><c> look</c><01:35:38.080><c> maybe</c><01:35:38.400><c> you</c><01:35:38.639><c> invited</c>

01:35:39.350 --> 01:35:39.360 align:start position:0%
and i said look maybe you invited
 

01:35:39.360 --> 01:35:42.709 align:start position:0%
and i said look maybe you invited
invented<01:35:39.840><c> it</c><01:35:40.840><c> earlier</c>

01:35:42.709 --> 01:35:42.719 align:start position:0%
invented it earlier
 

01:35:42.719 --> 01:35:45.189 align:start position:0%
invented it earlier
but<01:35:43.040><c> he</c><01:35:43.199><c> was</c><01:35:43.840><c> absolutely</c><01:35:44.480><c> could</c><01:35:44.719><c> not</c><01:35:44.960><c> be</c>

01:35:45.189 --> 01:35:45.199 align:start position:0%
but he was absolutely could not be
 

01:35:45.199 --> 01:35:47.109 align:start position:0%
but he was absolutely could not be
persuaded

01:35:47.109 --> 01:35:47.119 align:start position:0%
persuaded
 

01:35:47.119 --> 01:35:54.830 align:start position:0%
persuaded
that<01:35:47.920><c> and</c><01:35:48.159><c> that</c><01:35:48.480><c> he</c><01:35:49.119><c> might</c><01:35:49.360><c> have</c><01:35:49.520><c> invented</c><01:35:50.159><c> it</c>

01:35:54.830 --> 01:35:54.840 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:35:54.840 --> 01:36:07.830 align:start position:0%
 
earlier

01:36:07.830 --> 01:36:07.840 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:36:07.840 --> 01:36:11.990 align:start position:0%
 
but<01:36:08.159><c> somebody</c><01:36:08.639><c> might</c><01:36:08.960><c> have</c>

01:36:11.990 --> 01:36:12.000 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:15.830 align:start position:0%
 
but<01:36:12.239><c> i</c><01:36:12.400><c> did</c><01:36:14.480><c> at</c><01:36:14.560><c> least</c><01:36:14.880><c> as</c><01:36:14.960><c> far</c><01:36:15.199><c> as</c><01:36:15.360><c> anybody</c>

01:36:15.830 --> 01:36:15.840 align:start position:0%
but i did at least as far as anybody
 

01:36:15.840 --> 01:36:17.430 align:start position:0%
but i did at least as far as anybody
knows

01:36:17.430 --> 01:36:17.440 align:start position:0%
knows
 

01:36:17.440 --> 01:36:21.750 align:start position:0%
knows
invent<01:36:17.920><c> the</c><01:36:18.080><c> term</c><01:36:18.400><c> artificial</c><01:36:19.040><c> intelligence</c>

01:36:21.750 --> 01:36:21.760 align:start position:0%
invent the term artificial intelligence
 

01:36:21.760 --> 01:36:27.030 align:start position:0%
invent the term artificial intelligence
and<01:36:22.239><c> i</c><01:36:22.400><c> did</c><01:36:22.840><c> propose</c><01:36:23.840><c> logical</c>

01:36:27.030 --> 01:36:27.040 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:36:27.040 --> 01:36:38.229 align:start position:0%
 
way<01:36:27.199><c> to</c><01:36:27.360><c> do</c><01:36:36.840><c> it</c>

01:36:38.229 --> 01:36:38.239 align:start position:0%
way to do it
 

01:36:38.239 --> 01:36:41.270 align:start position:0%
way to do it
and<01:36:38.560><c> now</c>

01:36:41.270 --> 01:36:41.280 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:36:41.280 --> 01:36:44.950 align:start position:0%
 
i<01:36:41.520><c> wouldn't</c><01:36:41.920><c> be</c><01:36:42.719><c> certain</c>

01:36:44.950 --> 01:36:44.960 align:start position:0%
i wouldn't be certain
 

01:36:44.960 --> 01:36:48.229 align:start position:0%
i wouldn't be certain
about<01:36:45.679><c> uh</c><01:36:46.159><c> orient</c><01:36:46.880><c> whether</c><01:36:47.280><c> i</c><01:36:47.360><c> was</c><01:36:47.600><c> the</c><01:36:47.760><c> first</c>

01:36:48.229 --> 01:36:48.239 align:start position:0%
about uh orient whether i was the first
 

01:36:48.239 --> 01:36:49.590 align:start position:0%
about uh orient whether i was the first
to

01:36:49.590 --> 01:36:49.600 align:start position:0%
to
 

01:36:49.600 --> 01:36:54.870 align:start position:0%
to
orient<01:36:50.880><c> vision</c><01:36:52.239><c> computation</c><01:36:53.119><c> towards</c>

01:36:54.870 --> 01:36:54.880 align:start position:0%
orient vision computation towards
 

01:36:54.880 --> 01:36:58.629 align:start position:0%
orient vision computation towards
description<01:36:57.600><c> certainly</c><01:36:57.920><c> one</c><01:36:58.080><c> of</c><01:36:58.159><c> the</c><01:36:58.320><c> first</c>

01:36:58.629 --> 01:36:58.639 align:start position:0%
description certainly one of the first
 

01:36:58.639 --> 01:37:12.470 align:start position:0%
description certainly one of the first
who<01:36:58.880><c> did</c><01:37:04.840><c> that</c>

01:37:12.470 --> 01:37:12.480 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:37:12.480 --> 01:37:15.189 align:start position:0%
 
did<01:37:12.719><c> the</c><01:37:12.880><c> fact</c><01:37:13.199><c> that</c><01:37:13.520><c> the</c><01:37:13.679><c> robots</c><01:37:14.320><c> were</c>

01:37:15.189 --> 01:37:15.199 align:start position:0%
did the fact that the robots were
 

01:37:15.199 --> 01:37:18.830 align:start position:0%
did the fact that the robots were
embodied<01:37:15.840><c> and</c><01:37:16.000><c> can</c><01:37:16.159><c> move</c><01:37:16.480><c> in</c><01:37:16.719><c> space</c>

01:37:18.830 --> 01:37:18.840 align:start position:0%
embodied and can move in space
 

01:37:18.840 --> 01:37:21.430 align:start position:0%
embodied and can move in space
help<01:37:19.840><c> and</c><01:37:20.159><c> manipulate</c><01:37:21.040><c> help</c>

01:37:21.430 --> 01:37:21.440 align:start position:0%
help and manipulate help
 

01:37:21.440 --> 01:37:23.910 align:start position:0%
help and manipulate help
with<01:37:22.000><c> the</c><01:37:22.159><c> notion</c><01:37:22.560><c> of</c><01:37:22.719><c> description</c><01:37:23.360><c> or</c><01:37:23.600><c> change</c>

01:37:23.910 --> 01:37:23.920 align:start position:0%
with the notion of description or change
 

01:37:23.920 --> 01:37:25.590 align:start position:0%
with the notion of description or change
the<01:37:24.080><c> notion</c><01:37:24.480><c> of</c><01:37:24.560><c> description</c>

01:37:25.590 --> 01:37:25.600 align:start position:0%
the notion of description
 

01:37:25.600 --> 01:37:31.750 align:start position:0%
the notion of description
at<01:37:25.760><c> all</c>

01:37:31.750 --> 01:37:31.760 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:37:31.760 --> 01:37:42.870 align:start position:0%
 
well<01:37:32.840><c> yeah</c><01:37:34.320><c> because</c>

01:37:42.870 --> 01:37:42.880 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:37:42.880 --> 01:37:49.669 align:start position:0%
 
okay<01:37:45.280><c> now</c><01:37:45.520><c> here's</c><01:37:45.840><c> an</c><01:37:46.080><c> unsolved</c><01:37:46.840><c> problem</c>

01:37:49.669 --> 01:37:49.679 align:start position:0%
okay now here's an unsolved problem
 

01:37:49.679 --> 01:37:53.510 align:start position:0%
okay now here's an unsolved problem
the<01:37:49.920><c> description</c><01:37:50.639><c> of</c><01:37:50.880><c> objects</c>

01:37:53.510 --> 01:37:53.520 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:37:53.520 --> 01:37:59.510 align:start position:0%
 
with<01:37:53.840><c> flat</c><01:37:54.239><c> surfaces</c>

01:37:59.510 --> 01:37:59.520 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:37:59.520 --> 01:38:02.709 align:start position:0%
 
is<01:37:59.760><c> reasonably</c><01:38:00.840><c> understood</c>

01:38:02.709 --> 01:38:02.719 align:start position:0%
is reasonably understood
 

01:38:02.719 --> 01:38:07.430 align:start position:0%
is reasonably understood
geometry<01:38:03.520><c> provides</c><01:38:04.000><c> us</c><01:38:04.159><c> with</c><01:38:04.400><c> that</c>

01:38:07.430 --> 01:38:07.440 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:38:07.440 --> 01:38:11.669 align:start position:0%
 
the<01:38:08.239><c> description</c><01:38:08.960><c> of</c>

01:38:11.669 --> 01:38:11.679 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:38:11.679 --> 01:38:17.109 align:start position:0%
 
irregular<01:38:14.840><c> objects</c>

01:38:17.109 --> 01:38:17.119 align:start position:0%
irregular objects
 

01:38:17.119 --> 01:38:20.629 align:start position:0%
irregular objects
uh

01:38:20.629 --> 01:38:20.639 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:38:20.639 --> 01:38:28.830 align:start position:0%
 
he's<01:38:20.960><c> not</c><01:38:22.880><c> he's</c><01:38:23.119><c> not</c><01:38:23.360><c> well</c><01:38:23.600><c> understood</c>

01:38:28.830 --> 01:38:28.840 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:38:28.840 --> 01:38:30.070 align:start position:0%
 
and

01:38:30.070 --> 01:38:30.080 align:start position:0%
and
 

01:38:30.080 --> 01:38:33.590 align:start position:0%
and
almost<01:38:30.480><c> not</c><01:38:30.800><c> done</c><01:38:31.440><c> or</c><01:38:32.719><c> i</c><01:38:32.800><c> don't</c><01:38:33.040><c> know</c><01:38:33.199><c> anybody</c>

01:38:33.590 --> 01:38:33.600 align:start position:0%
almost not done or i don't know anybody
 

01:38:33.600 --> 01:38:36.950 align:start position:0%
almost not done or i don't know anybody
who<01:38:33.840><c> does</c><01:38:34.080><c> it</c><01:38:34.239><c> because</c>

01:38:36.950 --> 01:38:36.960 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:38:36.960 --> 01:38:41.430 align:start position:0%
 
anyone<01:38:37.440><c> who</c><01:38:38.960><c> can</c>

01:38:41.430 --> 01:38:41.440 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:38:41.440 --> 01:38:45.350 align:start position:0%
 
describe<01:38:42.400><c> say</c><01:38:42.960><c> a</c><01:38:43.280><c> cat</c>

01:38:45.350 --> 01:38:45.360 align:start position:0%
describe say a cat
 

01:38:45.360 --> 01:38:48.950 align:start position:0%
describe say a cat
as<01:38:45.600><c> a</c><01:38:45.760><c> solid</c><01:38:46.239><c> object</c>

01:38:48.950 --> 01:38:48.960 align:start position:0%
 
 

01:38:48.960 --> 01:38:59.590 align:start position:0%
 
or<01:38:49.199><c> a</c><01:38:56.840><c> person</c>

01:38:59.590 --> 01:38:59.600 align:start position:0%
or a person
 

01:38:59.600 --> 01:39:04.639 align:start position:0%
or a person
thank<01:39:01.639><c> you</c>